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Originally Posted by sixshooter
(Post 1112157)
Ah fixed yer pictures.
Do you still think the new springs ride well? I did try to ride in the left lane on a particularly harsh part of US 19 that is so rough I would actually consider it dangerous for most cars at highway speeds but to my dismay it has since been repaved and is rather level and smooth now. :crx: I guess I will have to wait for Sebring to really test it out and see if the uneven track punishes me for my choice in spring rates. At this point in time I believe I made the right choice. |
Originally Posted by Ryan_G
(Post 1112150)
You should come out and meet us on the track at Sebring. :party:
+1 on U.S. 19.. that road is horrid |
Originally Posted by Impuls
(Post 1112181)
When is this? I know there's 12/24hr going on at Sebring right ? |
Originally Posted by Ryan_G
(Post 1112182)
I was hoping to be out there for the track weekend on March 29-30th but due to a mix up on my part I signed up late and am currently on the waiting list. Sixshooter will be out there instructing. I will definitely make the next event if a spot doesn't open up for this one.
I met sixshooter when he came over to help me with my idle issue. I don't know anyone else around here, at lease not on here. |
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I finally had time this weekend to open up the spare VVT motor I have had sitting around for months. It revealed the first major disappointment of my build.
https://www.miataturbo.net/attachmen...ine=1395532654 This is the first thing I saw. Fucking awesome. To be fair, the person I bought it from did tell me that the engine had blown and had not been opened. He had expected a bent rod and a bad piston but said there might be some valve damage. I also didn't pay much at all for the motor so I am not too butt hurt over it. More pics of the glory. https://www.miataturbo.net/attachmen...ine=1395532654 https://www.miataturbo.net/attachmen...ine=1395532654 https://www.miataturbo.net/attachmen...ine=1395532654 Needless to say I am searching for another VVT head... On a better note, a spot at Sebring opened up for me on the 29th. So I've got that going for me, which is nice. |
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I almost forgot. I also received more parts today.
https://www.miataturbo.net/attachmen...ine=1395534385 Boundary VVT oil pump, VVT tuner from DIYAutotune, FM oil filter relocation kit I picked up for a great price on the local forum, and LS2 truck coils for ALLOFIT. Its slowly coming together. |
That block has some amazing carnage, but if the crank and bores are not complete trash it may still be usable with a solid overbore. I guess you'll find out as you get further in.
The 6758 you mentioned earlier with the v-bands, is that both on the turbine inlet and outlet? I know we had a thread going about them but I can't seem to find data anywhere. Though I'm sure your 7163 will provide plenty of glory. So it occurs to me that I've got this VVT head that needs an intake cam... ;) |
Originally Posted by EO2K
(Post 1114052)
That block has some amazing carnage, but if the crank and bores are not complete trash it may still be usable with a solid overbore. I guess you'll find out as you get further in.
The 6758 you mentioned earlier with the v-bands, is that both on the turbine inlet and outlet? I know we had a thread going about them but I can't seem to find data anywhere. Though I'm sure your 7163 will provide plenty of glory. So it occurs to me that I've got this VVT head that needs an intake cam... ;) |
Unless I was in Bellingham, WA and you were in Miami, I'm not sure we could get any further away, but there's a chance we have a rebuildable or even salvageable VVT head for ya.
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Originally Posted by curly
(Post 1114141)
Unless I was in Bellingham, WA and you were in Miami, I'm not sure we could get any further away, but there's a chance we have a rebuildable or even salvageable VVT head for ya.
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Originally Posted by Ryan_G
(Post 1114059)
What a coincidence. You should send it my way so I can complete it ;)
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Somebody help Ryan out!
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I'm working on it! Finishing packing it up tonight, will get a quote tomorrow. :party:
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That head is finally for sale, and/or trade for a VICs head+manifold. Not sure what my friend is offering, it's not quite posted but we've decided not to use it ourselves. Contact greddygalant on the forum here.
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I am hoping the short block is not too badly mangled.
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I has VVT head. PM'd with kitten love
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Originally Posted by EO2K
(Post 1117332)
I'm working on it! Finishing packing it up tonight, will get a quote tomorrow. :party:
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Today is yesterdays tomorrow! And it ends at midnight!
Actually, I just got the last of the packing material I needed at lunch today. Decent tape and I'm good to go. |
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Small update. Track day on March 29th/30th at Sebring was a success. Car held up great and I had a lot of fun. Avoided catastrophic on track failure when I noticed a noise originating from mt driver side rear wheel. Pitted before grid and realized 3 of the 4 lug nuts had loosened themselves quite a lot. Tightened them back up and they did the same thing after 2 more sessions. I wasn't using a torque wrench so I am not sure if I just didn't put enough clamping force on them but after I tightened them one more time they didn't loosen again. Here are two of my favorite pictures from the weekend.
https://www.miataturbo.net/attachmen...ine=1397431695 I had my first rain session on Saturday which was scary as fuck because I kept hydroplaning everywhere and it made me rather uncomfortable. https://www.miataturbo.net/attachmen...ine=1397431695 Ironically I didn't spin out in the rain but I did spin out on Sunday. I was battling and S2000 for fun and ended up overdriving my tires. Luckily the guy in the s2000 had a go pro. I also was able to disassemble the spare block finally with the help of miata2fast. The block appears to be salvageable. There are a few very minor gouges in cylinder 3 but It should be able to be bored out. I didn't get any pictures but I did receive a spare vvt head in the mail. https://www.miataturbo.net/attachmen...ine=1397431695 After a brief inspection all of the bearing surfaces and valves appear to be okay. I should be taking everything to the machine shop sometime in the next weekend. |
If you remove that wheel, are the studs loose in the hub? We had an NB that would not keep the lugs tight and the studs ended up being able to be pushed out by hand.
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Might also want to consider a torque wrench as part of the "mandatory track day tool bag." :)
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Originally Posted by Mobius
(Post 1122426)
Might also want to consider a torque wrench as part of the "mandatory track day tool bag." :)
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Troy and I dropped off our motors at United Speed World yesterday. Phil, the machinist, is super cool. He told us he was backed up and the turn around will probably be around 3 weeks. There was some question on how large of a bore would be needed on my block due to a small gouge caused by the valve exploding and hitting the cylinder wall. Phil started boring it yesterday so that he could give me a quick answer on whether I would need to exchange my pistons for larger ones. Good news is that I won't need new pistons.
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Sounds like progress! A good machinist/machine shop with an honest grasp on its lead times and does quality work is worth it's weight in gold. I hope all goes well!
Related: I've been in Orlando all week, how do you people live in this state and not have moss growing on your backs? :hahano: |
Originally Posted by EO2K
(Post 1127845)
Related: I've been in Orlando all week, how do you people live in this state and not have moss growing on your backs? :hahano: |
Originally Posted by miata2fast
(Post 1127887)
What do you mean? You don't have moss growing on your back?:dunno:
This thread needs more updates. How did the block end up coming out? |
Originally Posted by EO2K
(Post 1130350)
This thread needs more updates. How did the block end up coming out?
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The machine shop completed all of my engine work and Troy picked up both engines on Friday. Unfortunately, I have been flying to Texas for work every week for the past 3 weeks and will be doing so for the next 2 or 3 weeks so I was not able to see the engine myself. Troy and I will be assembling my engine one weekend here in the not so distant future. Then I will just be waiting for my hot side parts from Abe so that I can take a week off of work and get this swap done and running. I am very excite!
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I'll see you at Sebring, if not sooner.
Troy said your block came out fine, even though it was rough originally. |
What PTW did you end up spec'ing for the Soopertech 4032 pistons? I'm still trying to make a decision.
Also, when does the manifold show up? I'm trying to figure out if yours will be running before mine ;) |
PTW was 0.0026-0.0028 which is where Sixshooter's machinist set his tolerances so I went with that.
I have no eta on the mani because there was an issue with BW sending the exhaust and compressor housings for the 7163 separately. Bryan just got the tracking number for the compressor housing from BW last week and will be forwarding it to Abe as he needed both pieces due to very tight clearances with my chosen manifold design. |
Killer, thank you good sir. I regret I have only one prop to give.
So much wanting of the v-bands :drool: I've been in contact with FullRace and they have no ETA from BW on the v-band inlet IWG turbine housing for my B1. Nice to see they did it right with the 7163, or at least "right enough." Sorry you got caught up by the supply chain. |
Not a bad day.
I started dragging my stuff out this morning to see what I need to get my bucket on the road. If only I had a good assistant. |
I love seeing a motor come together. Props, and in for the braaaaaaaaaaaap noises coming soon.
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Winning! Good progress is good!
I have a feeling I should buy one of those ring file tools. |
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Nice work on the block! |
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Unfortunately, we did not get nearly as much done on Sunday as we were hoping to but progress was still made. We started cleaning parts to finish assembling the bottom end. I got a few pictures. The oil pan was absolutely disgusting.
https://www.miataturbo.net/attachmen...ine=1405706711 After much effort, lots of degreaser, and some scotch brite it was much cleaner. https://www.miataturbo.net/attachmen...ine=1405706711 https://www.miataturbo.net/attachmen...ine=1405706711 I was going to buy a new water pump for the build but Troy started inspecting the one from the old engine and realized that it looked almost completely brand new once he cleaned off the dirt. The bearing was very tight and the impeller looked completely untouched. The motor was suppose to have about 60k on it so I am assuming the timing belt and water pump had just been changed or something. I am going to reuse this pump. https://www.miataturbo.net/attachmen...ine=1405706711 https://www.miataturbo.net/attachmen...ine=1405706711 We were putting the main bearing support plate back on and realized the ARP main studs were making contact with it. I did a little research and realized that this happens for some and not for others. Awesome. I was not about grinding the studs down so we decided to just drill/cut the support plate just enough to allow the studs to clear. https://www.miataturbo.net/attachmen...ine=1405706711 We also cleaned up the pickup tube and made sure that it was clear and that the screen was unobstructed. I did not get any pictures of it though. I moved the engine from Troy's place to my apartment for now where it is in a dry, climate controlled space, protected by a garbage bag and well lubed. We will be getting to the head assembly at some point in the near future. In the mean time I need to keep cleaning some of the hardware and miscellaneous parts as well as completing my LS2 truck coil setup and wiring in the VVT controller. My clutch master cylinder also decided that it wanted to take a shit last week so I ordered this kit from 949: Miata MX5 clutch HOK https://www.miataturbo.net/attachmen...ine=1405706711 |
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Ohhhhhh man!
Is ARTech doing the manifold? I sometimes wish I had gone this route. AC is already out so I'm only a hop-skip-jump away from killing off my PS. |
Originally Posted by EO2K
(Post 1150354)
Ohhhhhh man!
Is ARTech doing the manifold? I sometimes wish I had gone this route. AC is already out so I'm only a hop-skip-jump away from killing off my PS. |
I need to solicit advice from others that are removed from the situation, have a level head, and are more knowledgeable than I. Like all good builds I have run into a problem. When Abe was ready to finish my manifold and begin working on the downpipe he fully unboxed my turbo and realized that it is not an IWG setup but a EWG setup instead. This creates all kinds of issues. I started looking back to when I ordered the turbo from Bryan to make sure I specified the right turbo but the initial communications were via forum pm's because the 7163 was not on his website yet. I had deleted these PMs. However, I did find the initial invoice. To my dismay it said EWG on it and I completely missed it when I made the payment. This was my fuck up. So by this point too much time has passed to just return the turbo to BW and Bryan has only sold one of this particular type of turbo making it a "unique item" per se and he doesn't want to just restock it in his inventory. I am essentially left with two options.
1. Bryan has agreed to take the turbo back and list it as a discounted open box item and apply that amount to my new IWG turbo. I feel like this process is going to be time consuming and an overall hassle. I am waiting on Bryan to get back to me on the $$ specifics of this option. 2. I can keep the EWG version I have and alter my order with Abe which will cost me $200 for the manifold modifications and dump tube. I will then need to get a good EWG which will run me at least another $200 if not more. This option will be less of a hassle and much faster. So I pose the question to you gays, what would you do and why? I plan for this build to progress to absolute monster levels of power necessitating a new transmission and all sorts of other supporting modifications so keep that in mind. Is the EWG a better option? I know BW IWG are suppose to be baller so I am not convinced. |
You already have the EWG turbo and its in abe's hands mid manifold manufacture. As long as the fact that the it was built to be an IWG manifold already isnt going to compromise the EWG setup (like if the manifold would have been setup different if he knew it was going to be ewg from the start) I would just go that way.
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Am I to assume an EWG turbo is less money than a IWG? How much so?
Make sure you calculate that into the equation before making your decision. |
Originally Posted by miata2fast
(Post 1155334)
Am I to assume an EWG turbo is less money than a IWG? How much so?
Make sure you calculate that into the equation before making your decision. |
All baller setups have EWG for a reason. To my understanding they offer more precise control and can handle greater volume. I read somewhere that there is less disruption of the turbine inlet flow as it necks down to the impeller. And it is a value added component, meaning it will always be worth something.
But you might not want to ask me because I'm not afraid to spend your money. |
The collection of parts will obviously cost more, but if the turbo itself is cheaper, you can get going sooner, and is a better setup anyways; I say go with it and never look back.
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I am leaning toward going the EWG route for ease and it will likely not be much more expensive after reselling the current turbo and buying a new one. I am completely ignorant when it comes to picking the right EWG because it was never in my plan to utilize one. I know Tial is the go to brand but what size am I looking for and is there anything weird about the EFR line of turbos that I need to know as far as EWG's are concerned?
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Sorry to hear about your issues Ryan. I'd look at this as an opportunity to explore a new, possibly better EFR avenue. It will be a headache to put the fabrication on hold with Abe while you source a new turbo, then attempt to pick it up where you left off.
You are also right about the losses likely being nil after resale and whatnot. If you are really expecting to push limits with this thing run with this unless research shows there are glaring BW EWG issues, which I doubt. Yes the IWG has been good to our members because it's designed properly but I'd be surprised to hear that it is actually better than a well sorted EWG. |
You should maybe talk to our buddy Gary. He may have an extra EWG of good quality and/or be able to speak to the pros and cons of different ones.
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tial 38mm - you don't really need anything else.
I agree with the posts above. Bummer about the situation, hope it works out |
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Pretty parts!
https://www.miataturbo.net/attachmen...ine=1411700144 V8 Roadsters 11.75" BBK that will be going on this weekend before Sebring. There may also be something very exciting in the works but I can't divulge anything at the moment until there is something more concrete. I should know more in the next week. |
Tease :giggle:
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I installed the V8R BBK the weekend before last while prepping for Sebring.
https://www.miataturbo.net/attachmen...ine=1412784026 This kit is absolutely amazing. It uses the same rotors as and calipers that the TSE kit uses but it has a custom caliper mount that Shandelle designed himself made of cnc cut aluminum. It fits under my gen 1 15x8 6UL with no spacers. https://www.miataturbo.net/attachmen...ine=1412784026 The install was cake and the brakes worked flawlessly all weekend at Sebring. I went with the Cobalt xr4 pads up front as they were a step up from the HP+ (which were fading) that I was previously running but were not so aggressive as to completely overpower my rivals when braking. I really picked up a lot of speed this weekend. There were 2 really wet sessions on saturday that were a fun lesson in car control. Sunday was absolutely gorgeous. It was cool with no clouds in the sky because a front came through which made for perfect track conditions. At the end of the weekend I got my check ride from HPDE 2 to HPDE 3. Sixshooter convinced me to sign up for Daytona because NASA is doing the entire weekend for fairly cheap. So that will be on Nov 1-2. Should be a blast. I would like to get the radiator ducting complete and install the hood louvers I just received yesterday from ThePass before daytona if I can make the time. |
Originally Posted by Ryan_G
(Post 1173941)
Sixshooter convinced me to sign up for Daytona because NASA is doing the entire weekend for fairly cheap. So that will be on Nov 1-2.
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Originally Posted by Ryan_G
(Post 1173941)
I would like to get the radiator ducting complete and install the hood louvers I just received yesterday from ThePass before daytona if I can make the time.
That V8R kit looks very nice. I spent some time talking with Shandelle at Laguna Seca, I like the stuff he's doing. -Ryan |
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Your build is coming together nicely Ryan. I definitely need to get down there for a track day when I get back next year!
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That man is magical. I kinda wish I had done something like this rather than the snakeytubes, but its all awesome regardless :party:
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I would recommend at least XR3s for the fronts on rivals, if not XR2s.
XR4s are a rear brake compound... I ran XR2s on the front of my turbo Miata on Hankook RS2s way back in the day and it was pretty good. Rivals are significantly stickier than old RS2s so they should handle the brake torque of XR2s just fine. Of course I was running on stock 1.8 brakes, not huge BBK, so YMMV... |
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