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Old 10-25-2009, 01:20 AM   #1
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New build thread.

Motor is out.

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Pulling the 5.0 from the T Bird that it was swapped into.

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Nice to have room to have both cars in the shop at the same time.

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5.0 is out.

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New axles showed up Friday! Completely built with all new parts, new CV's. They are beefy. Axles are over 1.25" diameter. Total cost? $220 for both. They are sized for an 8.8 diff and T bird splines. Boss Frog and V8R can kiss my *** with their $1500-$2300 axles.

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Disassembled the front subframe and ready to start cutting it up. Still need to pick up my $100 V8 T Bird to get the IRS.
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Nice! I'll be following this!
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Cool. Have you already gathered all of the big stuff you're gonna need or are you going with more of you own "custom" route
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Very nice start. Good **** man. I'll be keeping an eye on this
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Cool. Have you already gathered all of the big stuff you're gonna need or are you going with more of you own "custom" route
By big stuff, I have the motor, trans, rear end, and axles. That's really it except for the subframes. I'm fabbing them.

Well, I guess you could consider the other big stuff, which is heads, intake and cam. That will cost as much as all of the parts that I have bought together.
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Watch for a part out thread to be coming your way...

99 head, 88K miles
99 motor parts. It threw a rod through the pan but other parts available.
99 open diff and axles
99 harness and ECU if needed
99 front and rear sways
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Racecar?
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Racecar?
Dunno. I'm swapping over my Tein Flex and 6UL's. After I add heads, intake and cam I should be around 300 WHP. I'll likely sell the turbo car if this proves to be a reliable fair weather DD. One more thing to add to the dollar figure is paint. I can get the car painted same color and fix the dings for $1100. He did my wife's BRG for $1000 and it looks great. The downside is it's black. I live on a gravel road so that is utter fail. If I decide to DD it, I'm shamelessly copying Dopple's car and selling the other but that will cost more to upgrade and change color. Silver/grey will hide dust better. If I keep both, and it becomes a track car, it's staying black as I won't care.
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That's really it except for the subframes. I'm fabbing them.
Please document this in detail.

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Axles are over 1.25" diameter. Total cost? $220 for both.
Seller??
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Black track *****!!!
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Please document this in detail.
I plan to.



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lulz...maybe in a bit. Don't know if I can yet.
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stein please paint it not-black.
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Old 10-25-2009, 11:09 AM   #13
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This is going to be awshum!

+1 on not painting it black. I love my black car -the three days out of the month it's clean-. Tired of washing the bitch.
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Old 10-26-2009, 12:39 AM   #14
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A little update for today.

I built a welding fixture for the front subframe. This is the most critical part of my build. I'm cutting the subframe into three separate pieces, so I needed a very robust jig to weld it back together, ensuring that the pickup points remain where they are suposed to be.

The rear subframe mounts are on two 3/4" tubes with stops below and the 3/4" tubes are flush with the top of the subframe. 3/4" tubing fit the rear holes perfectly. Very snug. I welded a 1/2" bolt to the main frame first, cut 3/4" bushings to length and welded them on. I then pulled off the subframe and I slipped a piece of oversize tubing on cut to a length to set the depth and welded it as well.

I made eight brackets to hold the lower A-Arm joints. I used some old PPF bolts to mount it. They fit in the slots perfectly. Holes in the jig are size-for-size on the bolts. Zero movement.

I also tied in the upper A-Arm mounts using some extra upper A-Arm mounting bolts. It would have been tough to figure the exact location of the holes, so I clearanced the 2" tubing and then drilled out some 1/2" washers to fit the bolt snugly. I welded on the 2" tube uprights, let it cool and move where it wanted to after welding and then assembled the hardware, finally welding on the washers for perfect alignment.

I want to add one more square tube that angles along the face of the steering rack mounts so I can positively locate them as the front of the subframe will be loose when I cut it into pieces.

Some pics. No, the 2" tubing isn't bent. Just the camera angle.

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nice!! this oughta be awesome GL stein!!
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Looks good!
I'm curious about the rearend, axles and your plan to piece them together.
Will you take pictures to compare parts when you get to that stage.

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Looks good!
I'm curious about the rearend, axles and your plan to piece them together.
Will you take pictures to compare parts when you get to that stage.
I will do that. I need to see if the low buck axle solution fits as well as I hope it will.
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OK, I've had several PM's and questions about the axles and questions of if my pricing is legit. So, if you have been following this thread, here is where you get them.

Factory Five Racing
Part # 14839
Call them and ask for the standard length axles for the 8.8 IRS
Price is $110 each, shipping is $25
They come complete exactly like my picture above in this thread.

I have absolutely no idea how long they will continue to sell them at this price. A couple of us have bought them from FFR for this price but we have been keeping it quiet thus far in case something happened. They can't be making much if anything off them at this price and they are likely priced as replacement parts for their $3K IRS upgrade to their Cobra kits.

So, there you have it.
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So are you using the hubs from the T-Bird?
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