3 dogs murdered...
 

I recently purchased a Pit Bull from my cousin. Wonderful dog and brought much joy back into my home. My daughter of 10 is pretty torn up...
June (our dog) is the sister of Mack.
My cousin's neighbor shot all three of his dogs with an AK-47 in front of my cousin's kids.
Please helps us out by signing the petition... Thanks in advance.
http://www.thepetitionsite.com/1/Lexus-Mack-Diesel/

Link to the story...
http://www.ktxs.com/news/26326523/detail.html

Everyone is entitled to their opinion... but please read before posting.
That includes links that have been posted.

Shits messed up. When I was little my neighbor had deer in a pen. My other neighbor's dog came up the road and was scaring the deer. The buck got his antlers caught in the chain link fence and they broke off. My neighbor put a hole through the dog with a .30-.06, as defense for the deer on HIS property.
The other neighbor took him to court for killing his dog and the guy with the deer lost.
I say he should've won cause the dog was from like 10 houses away and those people used to let it run lose all the time. They didn't care where it went or what damage it did. It came on my neighbors property, he defended his deer, and he still lost.

Thirdgen - I'm on the fence myself. If on property, YES that's a whole different game. You should be able to defend yourself and property.
There were just too many "not rights" in this situation.

Yeah, that sucks. People do have a bleeding heart for doggies though. A bb gun or airsoft gun is a great deterrent. We had this rotwieler that my neighbors always let roam, and it would come try to get into our fence with our terrier. My jg M4 s system that shot 500 fps was the tool of choice. After that dog got caught by 10-20 rounds from it a time or two, It always walked past our house. They tried calling the police because it made the dog bleed, and the police just told the people if they would have tied the dog up it wouldn't have happened. Plus, all of the neighbors vouched that the dog ran around all the time. There is the solution. No dead dog. No dog on property.

Edit: He definately should have called the police instead of shooting them. Especially since it wasn't harming anyone. (No evidence was found, right?)
It was clearly done out of anger, then a lie was made to try and cover his tracks.

Doesn't every pit bull story involving an attack or otherwise always have "he never hurt anyone, he was always nice and loved playing with kids". Those things can turn in a blink of an eye. Not saying Machismo's story is this way, but an observation of every news story involving a pit bull...it's a broken record in the media. I am not passing judgement on if someone's animals are violent or not.

Not a big fan of pits, but pulling an asshole move is pretty lame.
Hope your cousin's case sees proper justice.

Opinion withheld out of courtesy for your emotional loss.

I'm not a big fan of pits either. I doggy sat an American Stafford Shire Terrier. This dog was huge. My oldest beagle and him butt heads one day and I got between em. I could tell he knew he coulda tore my arm off, but I played alpha and he backed down.

i signed it, i trust my pits more that i trust people....

No matter how nice your pit-bulls are, they are huge fucking scary monsters to anybody looking at them. There is no way you are ever going to eliminate the fear the average guy have for a pit or rottie. It's just not going to happen. Owners who refuse to acknowledge this are fighting a losing battle. The only solution is not to own them.

Oh yah, and pitbull owners are usually a bunch of douchebags as well. There are exceptions, but universally, people who choose these breeds over other breeds have huge macho issues. Their dogs/lifted trucks/fake-tittied-wives are compensators for small dicks. I've never met a pitbull owner who wanted to talk about anything but how expensive his dogs were or how much he spent on his system.

I do feel sorry for the kids who had to see all this shit, that;s a total shame. But I can't be too upset with the shooter. He protected his kids in the most effective way at his disposal. I'm not saying I would have handled it in the same manner, but I find it hard to fault a man defending his family, even if it was a couple houses away. This was Texas after all. People handle shit differently there.

Thanks guys.
I am not trying to change anyone's view on the breed.
Just make known...
I've been around dogs all my life and know it is a heavy responsibility when it comes to children and dogs.
I have 3 kids myself... one of which lives with me FULL time.

Carry on... ;)

Maybe I'm blind, but where were the dogs shot? Was it on Fain's property or Murphy's?

If Fains, the shooter deserves it. If Murphy's, your family should have better watched the dogs. We've thrown more then a few animals in the ditch because they crossed boundaries they shouldn't have.

When I was young a neighbour kid (12 yr old) climbed our outer 8' then inner 6' fence to go swimming in our pool while my family was away. Clearly trespassing, our mini schnauzer bit him once he was inside the 2nd fence giving the tiniest nick on his arm. He ran home and his parents took him to emerg demanding stitches (he got 1). They then did everything they could to try and get our 20lb little dog put down, the "man" of the house even threatened my mom.

In the end it was left that if anymore complaints about our dogs behaviour were file he was to be put down.

I don't know the exact neighbour(al?) relationship in the above story but I've experienced maliciousness by my own neighbours, you have my sympathy.

Here you go. http://bigcountryhomepage.com/fulltext?nxd_id=326767

The main point to remember is the children were already safe inside before Murphy came out.

Yep - I'm a total douche. Yep - he protected his kids who were already safe inside. Yep - we are ALL compensating for something. (Edit: Yep- I drive a Miata which therefore makes me gay). PLZ.

But - Blind Perceptions will screw you everytime.

Basically - you don't have to sign. Thanks for your observations though.

I really hope they prosecute this guy - regardless of whatever happened its never acceptable to shoot someone's dog. I'm fairly certain I'd shoot someone if they shot my dog.

The asshole that shot those dogs was a fucking coward. And with a fucking AK-47???

He could've called the cops. Could've called animal control. Could've called your cousin, for god's sake. Was that neighbor crossways with your cousin before all this went down?

Some people are scared of everything. I had one guy scared of my 3.5 pound chihuahua. I love pits, I had a pit when I was about 18. That was really the sweetest dog I have ever owned. It wasn't registered and what not, I got him at the pound because some A-Hole decided he needed a pit in an apartment. After selling my jacked up truck and buying a miata and getting a chihuahua. My penis has grown considerarbly. Maybe if I paint it pink, it will grow more.

If the dogs were really attacking him, he wouldn't have time to grab his ak-47 and/or fire it.

I've got no love for Pits. None. Zero.

My grandmother was torn apart by neglected Pit Bulls. Google "Luna McDaniel" and "Lousiana HB 155"

You like Pits? Fine. Keep them under control. Otherwise I will defend myself.

German Shepherds? Same thing. I've been bit on four occasions by three different Shepherds. Once while stopping the dog from attacking children on my block.

im not directing this to you, but just kinda adding to it.

even having owned pits for years, theyre not a dog i suggest to people. theyre like wind up toys that dont need being wound. they have lots of energy and not everyone can keep up. alot of people shouldnt own pits, let alone any dogs. theres to many people who are all about how much thier dogs cost and this and that bs. im more proud of how cheap i got mine, and the fact of how wonderful they are, talking about the current ones. hell i got one from the spca, and the other i got out of the local penny saver for 30 bucks. theres to many people who want these high dollar dogs, with all the attributes, that do nothing but mess up the breed. in example everyone wanting the blue ones soo bad people are over breeding, inbreeding what ever to get that perfect color. its doing nothing more than making aggressive dogs, its like going to pick out your perfect kid from a special ed room (retard stregnth)..lol....... i love the dogs, but id rather buy a bunch of shelter pits than pay 1500 for something with a peice of paper that means nothing to me....lol...

Tough one. Sure sounds like the neighbor over-reacted to the situation, and I get tired of the over-generalizations about large breeds.

On the other hand, owning a large breed is a serious responsibility, and so you better make damn sure that

1. your dogs can't roam the neighborhood, or
2. if there's a risk of them every getting loose, your neighbors are familiar and friendly with them, or
3. you are prepared to deal with dead dogs.

People like this don't help with the pit's image. This is a local guy who comes to all the meets just like this. Definitely douchebag territory.

http://www.bandydesign.com/photohost/June09V/16.jpg

^ Wannabe tough guy.....real time ****** and a half

I see NO REASON to shoot up anything with an AK47 unless its targets at the shooting range or an enemy during war.

I'm not a fan of pit bulls just because they aren't my thing. People make them out to be worse than they are though.

Sadly, I kinda get the situation of the gun owner.

My neighbour 2 doors down has this mammoth dog that breaks out and scares the shit out of people. Once he ran over and tried to attack my father in his truck because there was a husky in the back. Of course my father freaks out at me telling me to control my idiot neighbours, truck, scratched from the dogs nails.

I cant tell you how many times I have asked for the guy to put his dog on a chain or something as it scares people, especially those walking dogs which are muzzled when he lets his run lose.

Of course, my neighbor being the complete dickwad douchebag that he is laughs it off until i explained it simpler for him. Being that I am awesome and he knows it, I explained to him the next time the dog creeps around my yard or near my kid when hes out side I would kill it (I would likely end up in jail over it..but i work on the net and dont leave Canada, so who cares). Of course, he got in my face and was all badass, but I am more badass and he went home.

The following day the dog bit the paperboy (unleashed). Since that week, I have not seen that dog unleashed. Its not the dogs fault the neighbor is a complete cock. Its not the dogs fault (or even these dogs killed faults) that they got out, they are animals, they will do what they want. Its the owners fault, its their responsibility.

Dogs are intimidating. Some people dont like jacks cause they yap and certainly people are scared as shit of Pit Bulls. Hell, they are banned here in Ontario because the media made them out to be people killas.

Honestly, its a horrible thing to have happen and as a pet owner myself it would be heartbreaking. BUT, lets put this in perspective. They are dogs. Humans are superior and certainly children and people come first.
From what I read, this guy may have done the community a service and saved someones kid from getting their face torn off.

Now I will also add. I do like most animals more than most people I have met. And before my kid was born I would have said f' the guy, he over reacted. Now with a kid, sure, I am protective. Downside of being protective in Canada? You dont get to shoot shit. You gotta be a man and do it with y0 bare hands. ;)

PS. my neighbors are such ******s.

They are banned here in Ontario. I didnt vote for the ban or not. The owners thing they are all tupac raising the dogs to be dangerous. When you or someone is getting ripped apart by one, you will be wanting to shoot them in the face (the dog)

Tell me you care more about a dog when it does this to your kid.

https://www.miataturbo.net/attachmen...9&d=1295029640 https://www.miataturbo.net/attachmen...0&d=1295029695

Easy enough, just Google pitbull bite and see the countless ones out there. Sure, other dogs bite too but thats not the issue. The issue is putting down 3 stray potentially dangerous dogs.

I guess I'm a douche bag.....

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I better sell my Miata and get a lifted truck so my penis can grow.

BTW, I have a 4 year old son.

I saw that article last week signed it and posted it on my FB. Nobody was hurt, there was no evidence on the kids that the dog was even near them. He shot them in cold blood and should be punished.
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That was last years news. Tell us something we don't know?

Its funny, that dog looks pretty tiny compared to the douchebags down the street.

My family are pet friendly. 3 cats, 3 dogs and 2 frogs. LOL Here is our latest addition.

The difference between myself and my neighbor, is we handle our dogs responsibly. If the dog bites an intruder, good dog! Biting someone on the street because its off the leach, no go and my fail.

Dogs get out, accidents happen. But dogs are lower down on the food chain :)

Oh, and if your dog runs around unleashed in a neighborhood full of people, then yes, qualification of douchebag met.

At the cottage.
https://www.miataturbo.net/attachmen...1&d=1295030115

You are correct, if they get out and hurt someone then something should be done. But those dogs did nothing. My dog is 65 lbs, I purposely limit his exercise.

http://i19.photobucket.com/albums/b1...HIN/Shadow.jpg
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You have my sympathy on this one. If it happened to my dogs I'd be constantly making his life harder. He can shoot and kill three dogs because they were out wondering the neighborhood? Which as most dog owners know is more than usual, they constantly find ways out. Who the hell does he think he is. It's one thing if the dogs were attacking and another if they were just out and about. What you need to do is find a bum downtown somewhere and give him a 100 bucks and a gun and show him a picture of this guys kids. When the deed is done have the bum ask how does it feel. No one should have a right to take another life.

Demonizing the AK isn't cool either. It's controllable, easier to hit with than a pistol, and fires a round powerful enough to humanely put down deer.

If there's a crime to be punished, it's the decision to shoot. Demonstrate that, ignore the emotional gun-fear arguments.

There are 2 sides to this story and I can understand both.
I have a beautiful german shepherd that I absolutley love to death, but my biggest peeve is when dogs are not disciplined or trained or looked after.


1 side - as Brain said, if a dog is attacking you how the hell will you have time to run inside, grab a gun, and come back out? Pretty fucked up what the guy did. If the gun was ON him and he was running towards the house when he got attacked I'd understand. if he got bit, or his kids got bit, I'd say absolutely: shoot the fuckers. But it doesn't look that any of that happened.

2nd side - why the hell were the dogs out? if your dogs get out, even once, you need to immediately figure out why/how and MAKE SURE it never happens again.
if it does and they get shot, ITS YOUR OWN DAMN FAULT. Deal with it.

Tell me, would you:
1) take the risk and see if the dog mauls your child or completely disfigures him for the rest of his life
2) shoot dog and not gamble with your childs life.


I'm not saying what the guy did is right, but loose dogs running around the street scaring people are the owners fault and people need to realize that if their dog gets shot its because they didn't prevent the dog from getting out.


COMPLETELY 100% AGREE

I was going to say if they arent on your property, then they are free game. But, what I really wanted to say now is if they arent under your care and control they are free game. If you can't control your animal you shouldnt have one. Again, not the dogs fault, its the owners but accidents do happen.

Dogs get out, they wander. I have yet to shoot my neighbors dog or kill it by hand, but I would if i felt threatened. If my wife came in the house saying that the big retarded dog down the street came at her or my kid then yes, there would be problems. I am not saying I would even kill the dog, but I would certainly want to beat the shit out of the owner.

They are ONLY animals. Thats it.

Now, I don't know the rules of protecting yourself or your property in that state or any states really, or the rules of protecting your neighbor. But, lets be real here, if anyone was in danger you would do something to protect yourself, albeit call 911 or atleast try and fight back as the dog is deskinning your skull.

As I already said, I am not saying the shooter over reacted or didnt. There is one side of the story, hers (posted) in which there are claims both in defense of the dogs and in defense of the shooter. A couple different sides to the story but one thing is for certain, no one was there when the dogs apparently approached the children or whomever in which lead to the father getting his rifle. If he felt intimated by rogue dogs, then good for him.

Pitbulls roaming the streets in a pack shouldn't be a wait and see situation. Perhaps he should have called Animal Control or perhaps what he did was best.

Fuck you dipshit noob.
I hope you drown in a tub of shit.
Human life is not the same as a dogs life.

Get that through your fa66ot fucking retard head.

Well said.

Were the dogs being aggressive, barking, growling. If that's the case then obviously something needs to be done. The guy only lived two doors down, it would be really hard to convince me that he didn't know who the dogs belonged to. If my neighbor that lived two doors down had a pack of dogs, I'd know it and I'd make it my business to know if they are aggressive dogs.
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Clearly mail mans fault...

http://www.cnn.com/video/#/video/us/...iref=allsearch

This is what you dogs if you see dogs, ANY DOGS wandering around. Now if they are being aggressive, then by all means do whatever else you need to do.

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It sure was. If a dog did harm to a child of mine, it would become a dead dog. Game over.

I disagree.

I work from home. Ive seen my neighbors dogs. I have no idea if they will bite me but what I know is they bit the maybe 14 year old paper boy.

Its not anyone's responsibility to know if their neighbors dog 1 door down or 5 doors down is aggressive or not. The responsibility lay solely on the animal owner to care and control for it.

So yea. I have no idea of the history my neighbors dogs and if I asked me he would likely tell me its confidential and if I have a problem call the cops or something along those lines.

But, my final comment on your statement is how many times have children been maimed, bit , harmed by dogs that are so nice and great around children.

http://www.wpbf.com/news/22624629/detail.html

They are animals and are unpredictable. They should be leashed and muzzled (controlled).

I have a neighboor about 5 houses down that has 2 dogs.
1 pitbull and 1 ugly ass mix that I don't even know what it is.

They are CONSTANTLY barking, howling, and squealing.
And I'm not talking about during the day. I'm talking about 4-5am at night. Barking for no reason. All the time.

The owner is a fucking dipshit redneck son of a bitch. Completely oblivious to any of it.
I have went outside during the night and screamed at them to shut up. I have gone over to this assholes house like 4 times now and politely asked him to do something about the dogs keeping me and the rest of the street up all night every night.

Others have done the same.

He completely does not give a shit. Doesn't take care of his dogs. Doesn't make any effort to do anything.

Lately they have been getting out and wandering the street.
Its happened 3 times now.

Next time I see em I'm calling the cops. If I'm outside and one of them runs at me you better believe I will defend myself and most likely kill em.

Its not the dogs fault, I know this, but I'm not taking chances and the owner is a fucking douchebag.


Bottom line for me: if your dogs get out more than once and after the 2nd time they get shot its your own damn fault. Don't fucking cry about it.

:facepalm:

Just don't say it only happened because they we're pit bulls.
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Hi 911
Yea, my 2 year old sons head is in a pitbulls mouth, oh wait, there are 2 more biting his arms rag dolling him.

Whats that? Nope, I have not done anything as Abilene Police Lt. Joe Tauer has made it clear I should call you.

yes, i understand police will be here shortly and are en-route.

EMT, yea, send them too because i dont think my son isnt breathing anymore.

oh wait, dont bother, hes bleeding profusely from the neck, looks fatal.

Thanks again!


lol

edit... for me it would be more like this

911, hi. i just kicked the shit out of my neighbors dog after coming at my son.
yes, it did bite me a couple times but i think i killed it. i dont feel anything because i am enraged.
send police because i am so fuckin pissed I am going down to the neighbors now and beat the shit out of him.
send emt

**see you 2 hours later**


As I said all along, owners responsibility.

I agree 100%. If the dogs are aggressive it is usually because of the owner. Dogs get out. It happens. It is up to the owner to control the situation. However if i see dogs out, not harming anyone, I call the owner. Was the guy not watching his kids?

You're not understanding me, I completely agree with you. I'm just saying that you don't just shoot a dog because it's wandering around. My neighbors pug wanders around all the time, should I shoot it?
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You're missing the story, those dogs weren't even on his property when he shot them. Maybe they were at one point but obviously they didn't do anything to his kids. He should have called someone. Now yea, if he came out and they were in his yard being aggressive then do what you gotta do.
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Let's drop the whole "being aggressive" qualifier.

Dogs DO in fact, "snap". It's not a feature of any particular breed (though a breed may be more prone to it than others), it's a result of poor training and the general inability of people to read dogs accurately. People think they know a lot more about dog behavior and signals than they really do, and frequently will not pick up on "aggressive" or "uncomfortable" signals from a dog until it lunges at them or at another person.

You should ask your neighbour to leash the dog if it happens more than once.
Call animal control
Call 911

*or threaten neighbor, far more self gratifying, trust me. lol

You would make a levnubhin executive decision on the matter and do what you feel is right.

If the dog came at you and bit you, or a family member, perhaps cornered your decision would be to put it down with an uzi, i dont know. But if it did happen that way I would support you.

What I think I know or believe in this instance is that the person who killed the dogs felt his family or neighbors were in danger and he did what he felt was right.

From the story and a quote:

If he was scared enough to believe his life or someone else's was in danger, works for me.

I wouldn't be surprised if he gets off for shooting them.

I don't think we're talking about just "wandering around" in this thread.
At least I'm not.


I'd like to hear the other side of the Original story.
People tend to lie after the fact.

I wanna know what the guy that shot them has to say. Or bystanders/witnesses.

The dogs weren't in the owners lot and as far as the victim is concerned, are aggressive in nature after approaching his wife and children.

I am not familiar with the ROE there and your laws differ from ours in Canada, greatly. In Canada we round up our family, lock the doors, play dead while calling 911. Thats it.

:giggle:

lmao.
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Our laws here are pathetic when it comes to self preservation and protection.

So fail.

I do love animals. I am more frustrated as of late that my Oriental short hair meows because he wants attention or into my sons room.
My heart would be broken if my pets were ever gunned down. My heart breaks when I have to put them down.

I just would like to believe that if there was negligence, an error in judgment or an accident and they got out, regardless of how I feel about my pets there is an element of me that would believe the victim. The dogs are perhaps in an environment they dont know, there are strangers and I wasn't there.

Yes, it would suck but again, I would like to think I would understand the victims stance.

Let me be clear here... YES - No Human life is worth less than that of a dog.

But let me also be clear that the "child" left on his own to roam the neighborhood; was safely inside before the guy went after the dogs to shoot them. Hell, his wife had to wake him up off the couch. The police found no evidence of any injuries. Period.

So everyone saying "the breed" would feel differently; if say, the dogs were Poodles instead?
Would you feel differently to hear the body hanging from the tree was a white guy?
Would you feel differently to find that the drug dealer was your Preacher?

It doesn't matter if you are stabbed with a pocket knife or hunting knife. Still will hurt like shit.

The owner of the American Staffordshire Terriers is the girlfriend of my cousin. She is a Veternarian and the dogs are AKC registered. I had to go through a background check before my purchase. I also was required to register my dog. She raises and sells these dogs and has been for quite some time. Until proven other wise, this is not a crime.

Sounds like that's not right if the news story is accurate:

And if that's fact, there are other charges that could be added onto the charges he's already facing.

The guy that did the shooting is not the victim.

We could also post a question out there for some of you folk.
There is a list compiled of the Top 10 most dangerous dogs. Out of the 5 links I've read, they are all the same; so I think this was a statistical basing. Good - that keeps it fair for this posting.
Do any of you own any of these types of dogs?
http://www.dirjournal.com/info/most-...-in-the-world/

And another question. Were you surprised to see your dog on the list?

Wow good one, I bet you and Micheal Vick would have a wonderful time at a dog park! " Hey there's a dog, let's grab it, take it home and teach it fight then take it out back and shoot it". To add to the fun it will fit perfectly in the trunk of your miata. :)

And just what field are you coming from? You read much?

If the area they were shot in is correct, Murphy can get pounded by the law then. His property is fair game, but the vacant house is a no fly zone for both parties.

An AK? WTF? An assault riffle to kill a few dogs? Typical AK owner :jerkit: