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Old 01-14-2011, 11:36 AM   #1
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I recently purchased a Pit Bull from my cousin. Wonderful dog and brought much joy back into my home. My daughter of 10 is pretty torn up...
June (our dog) is the sister of Mack.
My cousin's neighbor shot all three of his dogs with an AK-47 in front of my cousin's kids.
Please helps us out by signing the petition... Thanks in advance.
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***** messed up. When I was little my neighbor had deer in a pen. My other neighbor's dog came up the road and was scaring the deer. The buck got his antlers caught in the chain link fence and they broke off. My neighbor put a hole through the dog with a .30-.06, as defense for the deer on HIS property.
The other neighbor took him to court for killing his dog and the guy with the deer lost.
I say he should've won cause the dog was from like 10 houses away and those people used to let it run lose all the time. They didn't care where it went or what damage it did. It came on my neighbors property, he defended his deer, and he still lost.
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Thirdgen - I'm on the fence myself. If on property, YES that's a whole different game. You should be able to defend yourself and property.
There were just too many "not rights" in this situation.
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Old 01-14-2011, 12:11 PM   #4
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Yeah, that sucks. People do have a bleeding heart for doggies though. A bb gun or airsoft gun is a great deterrent. We had this rotwieler that my neighbors always let roam, and it would come try to get into our fence with our terrier. My jg M4 s system that shot 500 fps was the tool of choice. After that dog got caught by 10-20 rounds from it a time or two, It always walked past our house. They tried calling the police because it made the dog bleed, and the police just told the people if they would have tied the dog up it wouldn't have happened. Plus, all of the neighbors vouched that the dog ran around all the time. There is the solution. No dead dog. No dog on property.

Edit: He definately should have called the police instead of shooting them. Especially since it wasn't harming anyone. (No evidence was found, right?)
It was clearly done out of anger, then a lie was made to try and cover his tracks.
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Doesn't every pit bull story involving an attack or otherwise always have "he never hurt anyone, he was always nice and loved playing with kids". Those things can turn in a blink of an eye. Not saying Machismo's story is this way, but an observation of every news story involving a pit bull...it's a broken record in the media. I am not passing judgement on if someone's animals are violent or not.

Not a big fan of pits, but pulling an ******* move is pretty lame.
Hope your cousin's case sees proper justice.
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Opinion withheld out of courtesy for your emotional loss.
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I'm not a big fan of pits either. I doggy sat an American Stafford Shire Terrier. This dog was huge. My oldest beagle and him butt heads one day and I got between em. I could tell he knew he coulda tore my arm off, but I played alpha and he backed down.
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i signed it, i trust my pits more that i trust people....
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No matter how nice your pit-bulls are, they are huge ******* scary monsters to anybody looking at them. There is no way you are ever going to eliminate the fear the average guy have for a pit or rottie. It's just not going to happen. Owners who refuse to acknowledge this are fighting a losing battle. The only solution is not to own them.

Oh yah, and pitbull owners are usually a bunch of douchebags as well. There are exceptions, but universally, people who choose these breeds over other breeds have huge macho issues. Their dogs/lifted trucks/fake-tittied-wives are compensators for small dicks. I've never met a pitbull owner who wanted to talk about anything but how expensive his dogs were or how much he spent on his system.

I do feel sorry for the kids who had to see all this ****, that;s a total shame. But I can't be too upset with the shooter. He protected his kids in the most effective way at his disposal. I'm not saying I would have handled it in the same manner, but I find it hard to fault a man defending his family, even if it was a couple houses away. This was Texas after all. People handle **** differently there.
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Thanks guys.
I am not trying to change anyone's view on the breed.
Just make known...
I've been around dogs all my life and know it is a heavy responsibility when it comes to children and dogs.
I have 3 kids myself... one of which lives with me FULL time.

Carry on...
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Maybe I'm blind, but where were the dogs shot? Was it on Fain's property or Murphy's?

If Fains, the shooter deserves it. If Murphy's, your family should have better watched the dogs. We've thrown more then a few animals in the ditch because they crossed boundaries they shouldn't have.
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When I was young a neighbour kid (12 yr old) climbed our outer 8' then inner 6' fence to go swimming in our pool while my family was away. Clearly trespassing, our mini schnauzer bit him once he was inside the 2nd fence giving the tiniest nick on his arm. He ran home and his parents took him to emerg demanding stitches (he got 1). They then did everything they could to try and get our 20lb little dog put down, the "man" of the house even threatened my mom.

In the end it was left that if anymore complaints about our dogs behaviour were file he was to be put down.

I don't know the exact neighbour(al?) relationship in the above story but I've experienced maliciousness by my own neighbours, you have my sympathy.
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Maybe I'm blind, but where were the dogs shot? Was it on Fain's property or Murphy's?

If Fains, the shooter deserves it. If Murphy's, your family should have better watched the dogs. We've thrown more then a few animals in the ditch because they crossed boundaries they shouldn't have.
Here you go. http://bigcountryhomepage.com/fulltext?nxd_id=326767

The main point to remember is the children were already safe inside before Murphy came out.
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No matter how nice your pit-bulls are, they are huge ******* scary monsters to anybody looking at them. There is no way you are ever going to eliminate the fear the average guy have for a pit or rottie. It's just not going to happen. Owners who refuse to acknowledge this are fighting a losing battle. The only solution is not to own them.

Oh yah, and pitbull owners are usually a bunch of douchebags as well. There are exceptions, but universally, people who choose these breeds over other breeds have huge macho issues. Their dogs/lifted trucks/fake-tittied-wives are compensators for small dicks. I've never met a pitbull owner who wanted to talk about anything but how expensive his dogs were or how much he spent on his system.

I do feel sorry for the kids who had to see all this ****, that;s a total shame. But I can't be too upset with the shooter. He protected his kids in the most effective way at his disposal. I'm not saying I would have handled it in the same manner, but I find it hard to fault a man defending his family, even if it was a couple houses away. This was Texas after all. People handle **** differently there.
Yep - I'm a total douche. Yep - he protected his kids who were already safe inside. Yep - we are ALL compensating for something. (Edit: Yep- I drive a Miata which therefore makes me gay). PLZ.

But - Blind Perceptions will screw you everytime.

Basically - you don't have to sign. Thanks for your observations though.

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I really hope they prosecute this guy - regardless of whatever happened its never acceptable to shoot someone's dog. I'm fairly certain I'd shoot someone if they shot my dog.
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The ******* that shot those dogs was a ******* coward. And with a ******* AK-47???

He could've called the cops. Could've called animal control. Could've called your cousin, for god's sake. Was that neighbor crossways with your cousin before all this went down?
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No matter how nice your pit-bulls are, they are huge ******* scary monsters to anybody looking at them. There is no way you are ever going to eliminate the fear the average guy have for a pit or rottie. It's just not going to happen. Owners who refuse to acknowledge this are fighting a losing battle. The only solution is not to own them.

Oh yah, and pitbull owners are usually a bunch of douchebags as well. There are exceptions, but universally, people who choose these breeds over other breeds have huge macho issues. Their dogs/lifted trucks/fake-tittied-wives are compensators for small dicks. I've never met a pitbull owner who wanted to talk about anything but how expensive his dogs were or how much he spent on his system.

I do feel sorry for the kids who had to see all this ****, that;s a total shame. But I can't be too upset with the shooter. He protected his kids in the most effective way at his disposal. I'm not saying I would have handled it in the same manner, but I find it hard to fault a man defending his family, even if it was a couple houses away. This was Texas after all. People handle **** differently there.
Some people are scared of everything. I had one guy scared of my 3.5 pound chihuahua. I love pits, I had a pit when I was about 18. That was really the sweetest dog I have ever owned. It wasn't registered and what not, I got him at the pound because some A-Hole decided he needed a pit in an apartment. After selling my jacked up truck and buying a miata and getting a chihuahua. My ***** has grown considerarbly. Maybe if I paint it pink, it will grow more.
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If the dogs were really attacking him, he wouldn't have time to grab his ak-47 and/or fire it.
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I've got no love for Pits. None. Zero.

My grandmother was torn apart by neglected Pit Bulls. Google "Luna McDaniel" and "Lousiana HB 155"

You like Pits? Fine. Keep them under control. Otherwise I will defend myself.

German Shepherds? Same thing. I've been bit on four occasions by three different Shepherds. Once while stopping the dog from attacking children on my block.
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No matter how nice your pit-bulls are, they are huge ******* scary monsters to anybody looking at them. There is no way you are ever going to eliminate the fear the average guy have for a pit or rottie. It's just not going to happen. Owners who refuse to acknowledge this are fighting a losing battle. The only solution is not to own them.

Oh yah, and pitbull owners are usually a bunch of douchebags as well. There are exceptions, but universally, people who choose these breeds over other breeds have huge macho issues. Their dogs/lifted trucks/fake-tittied-wives are compensators for small dicks. I've never met a pitbull owner who wanted to talk about anything but how expensive his dogs were or how much he spent on his system.

I do feel sorry for the kids who had to see all this ****, that;s a total shame. But I can't be too upset with the shooter. He protected his kids in the most effective way at his disposal. I'm not saying I would have handled it in the same manner, but I find it hard to fault a man defending his family, even if it was a couple houses away. This was Texas after all. People handle **** differently there.
im not directing this to you, but just kinda adding to it.

even having owned pits for years, theyre not a dog i suggest to people. theyre like wind up toys that dont need being wound. they have lots of energy and not everyone can keep up. alot of people shouldnt own pits, let alone any dogs. theres to many people who are all about how much thier dogs cost and this and that bs. im more proud of how cheap i got mine, and the fact of how wonderful they are, talking about the current ones. hell i got one from the spca, and the other i got out of the local penny saver for 30 bucks. theres to many people who want these high dollar dogs, with all the attributes, that do nothing but mess up the breed. in example everyone wanting the blue ones soo bad people are over breeding, inbreeding what ever to get that perfect color. its doing nothing more than making aggressive dogs, its like going to pick out your perfect kid from a special ed room (retard stregnth)..lol....... i love the dogs, but id rather buy a bunch of shelter pits than pay 1500 for something with a peice of paper that means nothing to me....lol...
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