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Old 10-06-2011, 12:35 PM   #41
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Saddest part is that he only resigned a few months ago. I hope he wasn't regretting that on his death bed. Devoted man.
You don't think that wasn't careful planned for months, maybe years?

The market reacted so negatively everytime he went to a doctor and/or sneezed. I'm sure they were all well aware of his health and expectancy and planned this carefully.
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I'm not mad at all bub.

My father doesn't have a pension btw.

You need to work to make money, but just because you have a "shitton" doesn't mean you shouldn't keep working. Just like opinions and ********, ways of life are different as well.
See thats the part I don't get and you guys keep getting butthurt about me questioning it.
Its not like this guy free'd the slaves or solved world hunger or cured cancer. Whats so enjoyable about busting *** til the day you die?
I'm not coming at it from a slacker/lazyass point of view just FYI. I been working since I was 15, and everyone in my family/friend circle is the same way. Never on any gubment assistance or any of that bullshit. So its not like I'm saying "make just enough to last til you die and then kick back".

Unless you're a true definition of "workaholic" I just don't understand how a job can give you PERSONAL pleasure (lol you fgts know what I mean).

I love my current job, its pretty awesome and I dont mind doing it til I'm 50-60 at all, but given the choice I'd much rather be traveling, climbing mountains, riding dirtbikes, etc etc etc 1000000000000 other fun/cool **** to do besides go to work......
Do you see where I'm coming from?
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Old 10-06-2011, 12:40 PM   #43
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I don't like to work. But I like to spend money.

And until welfare is six figs... well here I am.
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Old 10-06-2011, 12:48 PM   #44
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whats cool about working non stop all your life then up and die and have all your efforts go to others?
The sense of achievement that comes from having changed the world in a very palpable way.

I'm completely serious. Some folks see "work" just as something to pay for the other parts of their life. Others see it as a means to satisfy their desire for power, recognition, etc.


That said, I was a little surprised at how generous and fulsome the obits on the radio were being. I mean, props to Apple for bringing certain important technologies (the GUI, WYSIWYG, etc) out of the ivory tower and into the hands of the masses. But I'm not entirely certain it's fair to say, for instance, that the iMac was the world's first internet-enabled PC. I seem to recall being on the internet at least five years prior to its introduction. And did Jobs found Pixar? Well, he did purchase Pixar in '86 when they were on the verge of bankruptcy, but they already had several film credits under their belt by that time.

Anyway, not trying to **** on a man's grave.
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Old 10-06-2011, 12:52 PM   #45
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Please explain whats sad about that.

My dad is 70 and still works pouring concrete 6 days a week like a ******* champ. Why? Because he ******* WANTS to.
I'm sorry but I have to take issue here. I recall in a past thread that you had to keep the business going because he couldn't afford to retire and couldn't get onto a crew somewhere else. I'm not digging back into that thread, but it comes to mind.

I don't know him but I would SUSPECT that, given the option and if he could afford it, he would choose to retire.

Props to him to be able to work like that but I'm doubting the motive.
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I agree Joe, and not pissing on the mans grave either, I just think unless you're working to cure aids or something that will turn the world upside down I don't think its "worth" busting *** your whole life just so some applefa6s won't even give a **** about you 2 years later....
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I agree Joe, and not pissing on the mans grave either, I just think unless you're working to cure aids or something that will turn the world upside down I don't think its "worth" busting *** your whole life just so some applefa6s won't even give a **** about you 2 years later....
someone didn't get his ***** licked last night
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should have resigned a long time ago and enjoyed life......just my .02
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Old 10-06-2011, 01:28 PM   #49
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I'm sorry but I have to take issue here. I recall in a past thread that you had to keep the business going because he couldn't afford to retire and couldn't get onto a crew somewhere else. I'm not digging back into that thread, but it comes to mind.

I don't know him but I would SUSPECT that, given the option and if he could afford it, he would choose to retire.

Props to him to be able to work like that but I'm doubting the motive.
Yes. That is true and we are still having issues with the company today.

My mom and dad had some bad investments over the years, thus they dont have an overflowing bank account. That doesnt mean he couldnt retire if he really wanted to. It's that he wants to keep working. He's afraid the arthritis will kick in even worse like it did to my uncles and kill him as well. He thinks if he stops working that he'll die basically. Financially he and my mom would probably be fine till the day they died, but they would have to change thier lifestyle a little to do so. It's 50/50 in the grand scheme of things.
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I agree Joe, and not pissing on the mans grave either, I just think unless you're working to cure aids or something that will turn the world upside down I don't think its "worth" busting *** your whole life just so some applefa6s won't even give a **** about you 2 years later....
What I don't think you get (and I do not mean this as an insult), is that he wasn't busting his *** or "working" all day, he was doing what he LOVED to do. He was a nerd, and electronic stuff WAS his hobby/fun. He wasn't an employee working for money (iirc he paid himself $1/year salary, but I could be wrong), he was the boss of a cutting edge electronics company able to do what he wanted. And to his credit, he tried to make nerdy computer stuff/electronics easier to use for the general public (not the leet nerds who always complain) and to make it easier for people to access the internet and connect with each other. I mean hell my 3 year old son and 80 year old granddad can actually use his products without looking at a manual and enjoy themselves.

As an example, if your "job" was that you were the boss of a hugely successful car related company with access to the best designers/equipment/etc..., and all you did all day was work on making the stuff you dream about an actual product, would it really be work at that point?

Before you call me an apple fanboiiiii, ironically enough, my cell phone contract is up, and I'm on my way out to get an android phone today, but their stuff does make it easy for the non-nerds out there, which = 95%+ of the population. I mean hell, at a training for this new job (for a very respected company) I started last year, there was a thirty minute session on the difference between reply and reply all (I swear to god), so I think it says something about the general public's computer saavy.
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I work as a means to fund my life. Work stops the second I step out the door.

Not that I don't enjoy it; I actually do engineering on my own time, purely because I do like to do it. But if I had enough money, I'd never "work" again.

Apparently, Jobs wasn't like that, because he had more money than he could possibly spend. Something else drove him. That is as alien to me as just about anything I can think of.

But he was successful at it, so you gotta hand it to him for that much. Love or hate Apple products, he certainly knew how to get people to buy his stuff.
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Old 10-06-2011, 01:48 PM   #52
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"Ensue," not "ensure."

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What I don't think you get (and I do not mean this as an insult), is that he wasn't busting his *** or "working" all day, he was doing what he LOVED to do. He was a nerd, and electronic stuff WAS his hobby/fun. He wasn't an employee working for money (iirc he paid himself $1/year salary, but I could be wrong), he was the boss of a cutting edge electronics company able to do what he wanted. And to his credit, he tried to make nerdy computer stuff/electronics easier to use for the general public (not the leet nerds who always complain) and to make it easier for people to access the internet and connect with each other. I mean hell my 3 year old son and 80 year old granddad can actually use his products without looking at a manual and enjoy themselves.

As an example, if your "job" was that you were the boss of a hugely successful car related company with access to the best designers/equipment/etc..., and all you did all day was work on making the stuff you dream about an actual product, would it really be work at that point?

Before you call me an apple fanboiiiii, ironically enough, my cell phone contract is up, and I'm on my way out to get an android phone today, but their stuff does make it easy for the non-nerds out there, which = 95%+ of the population. I mean hell, at a training for this new job (for a very respected company) I started last year, there was a thirty minute session on the difference between reply and reply all (I swear to god), so I think it says something about the general public's computer saavy.
Not calling you a fanboii at all. Actually,
When you put it that way it makes much more sense to me and I guess I can now more or less respect why he was doing what he was doing.
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I work as a means to fund my life. Work stops the second I step out the door............
.......Not that I don't enjoy it; I actually do engineering on my own time, purely because I do like to do it. But if I had enough money, I'd never "work" again.......Apparently, Jobs wasn't like that, because he had more money than he could possibly spend. Something else drove him. That is as alien to me as just about anything I can think of.
Again completely agree. I'm starting to understand this "work til you die" mentality

though I must still say: it probably doesn't apply to like 99% of the people out there ....
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I ain't going to quit grinding until I have enough cash to fund my own space program. How's that for a goal?
Pusha wants to be the first douchbag in space. Sry brosef, no room for a popped collar in a space suit.
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