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cordycord 10-27-2012 02:13 AM

Isn't this like Watergate x 100?

olderguy 10-27-2012 07:13 AM


Originally Posted by cordycord (Post 943843)
Isn't this like Watergate x 100?

Nobody died in Watergate. Not one shot fired. Nixon was protecting his friends and got caught covering for them. Navy Seals tried protecting lives and lost theirs. Sort of illustrates the differences pretty well when and how the media covers both.

olderguy 10-27-2012 09:24 AM

Looks like Al Gore had perfect timing to make his millions:

Global warming stopped 16 years ago, reveals Met Office report quietly released... and here is the chart to prove it | Mail Online

Braineack 10-27-2012 09:40 AM

that's racist.

jeff_man 10-27-2012 06:04 PM


thenuge26 10-27-2012 08:31 PM

lol at glennbeck.com and dailymail.uk being used as sources.

Do you guys believe everything you read in the supermarket tabloids too?

olderguy 10-27-2012 09:10 PM


Originally Posted by thenuge26 (Post 944034)
lol at glennbeck.com and dailymail.uk being used as sources.

Do you guys believe everything you read in the supermarket tabloids too?

Download it yourself: Met Office Hadley Centre observations datasets

jeff_man 10-27-2012 09:44 PM

Rmoney would have out sourced the operators to china so no calls would have ever made it though.

bbundy 10-29-2012 11:20 AM


Originally Posted by cordycord (Post 943492)
Yah, I hate that timeline too. You know, where Brett simply lists the times the Bush administration (and others) voices extreme concern about Fanny and Freddy. Heck, I'll even read Mother Jones if they quote verbatim.

During that time line Republicans controlled house and Senate between 1995 and 2007. Bush had control of all three branches of government for 6 years of his time in office. Even if bush intended to do the right thing as Bret Baier wants you to believe he failed miserably. Bret Baier is a partisan GOP propogandists not telling the whole story and he is working for a news agency founded and created by the most promanant GOP propogandists straight out of the Nixon era and for the purpose of party propoganda.

Braineack 10-29-2012 11:26 AM

no body is poor anymore, dont worry bobby.

Over $60,000 in Welfare Spent Per Household in Poverty | The Weekly Standard

everyone in poverty made $60,000 this year.

jeff_man 10-29-2012 12:16 PM


Originally Posted by Braineack (Post 944359)
no body is poor anymore, dont worry bobby.

Over $60,000 in Welfare Spent Per Household in Poverty | The Weekly Standard

everyone in poverty made $60,000 this year.

Only the non white ones.

bbundy 10-29-2012 01:13 PM


Originally Posted by Braineack (Post 944359)
no body is poor anymore, dont worry bobby.

Over $60,000 in Welfare Spent Per Household in Poverty | The Weekly Standard

everyone in poverty made $60,000 this year.

You fail to understand the economics of parasitism. A successful parasite is one that is not recognized by its host, one that can make its host work for it without appearing to be a burden, such as the ruling class in a capitalistic oligarchy.

The Government handouts that your boy Mittens has received is worth many thousands of times that of a welfare recipient and yet you will still complain that somebody who uses a food stamp to buy a snickers bar and ignore the fact Exxon Mobile took thousands of the tax money you may have personally paid.

Braineack 10-29-2012 01:36 PM

yep. we fixed the problem didnt we?

theres no drugs, poor, or terrorism.

bbundy 10-29-2012 10:45 PM


flying_solo 10-30-2012 10:26 AM

I just heard yet another coworker bitching about Obama care is stupid and we don't need it. I really don't care for either party or candidate. It's like voting for Walmart versus GE. They should wear nascar uniforms with their sponsors. That being said, Obama care did make a big difference for a lot of folks. Folks like me.

Two huge benefits were no insurance caps and no ban on pre-existing conditions. Why is that important? I have a son that was born last year with Down Syndrome and a massive hole in his heart. We have already had over $3 million in medical bills. My wife has great insurance, but $3 million would have got us dropped like a rock even from BCBS. After we got dropped, we would have been in a nightmare limbo left trying to find someone to cover us. IF we found someone to cover us the cost would be astronomical.

Just food for thought.

And after my son had his reconstructive surgery he had a great come back and 9 months later has no apparent heart/lung issues. Modern medicine is truly amazing.

jeff_man 10-30-2012 11:51 AM

Under obama care I would have not had to hire a lawyer and fight BCBS after my bike wreck (other person as fault is only 100,000 coverage and no assets). I wouldn't of had to wait 4 years to get the surgery I just got and would not be fighting with my current heath care over it being falling outside what can be call preexisting.

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Scrappy Jack 10-30-2012 05:07 PM


Originally Posted by jeff_man (Post 944815)
Under obama care I would have not had to hire a lawyer and fight BCBS after my bike wreck (other person as fault is only 100,000 coverage and no assets).

Can you clarify how Obamacare would have helped in this situation? I assume you typed the above on a phone because your parenthetical doesn't read totally coherently to me.

You were hit while on a motorcycle, the police found the other person at fault, and your Blue Cross Blue Shield health insurance refused to cover your medical expenses? Or they only covered you for $100k and your expenses exceeded that amount?

Where was your motor vehicle coverage in all of this?

jeff_man 10-30-2012 05:23 PM


Originally Posted by Scrappy Jack (Post 944922)
Can you clarify how Obamacare would have helped in this situation? I assume you typed the above on a phone because your parenthetical doesn't read totally coherently to me.

You were hit while on a motorcycle, the police found the other person at fault, and your Blue Cross Blue Shield health insurance refused to cover your medical expenses? Or they only covered you for $100k and your expenses exceeded that amount?

Where was your motor vehicle coverage in all of this?

The missing link to the story is Texas law. Health insurance does not pay for car / bike wrecks, that is what auto coverage is for and only the at fault person's insurance pays out. My under insured coverage was very low because USAA wont cover bikes in Texas and the ones that do only offered 5000-10000.

So we had to sue BCBS to cover the heath cost as the hospital was charging them and BCBS was just passing 100% of the bill on to me.

Side note, also because of Texas insurance laws the cosigher on the lease and policy can not be held liable even though they sighed a contract stating financial responsibility as a cosigner. Bitches parents are halliburton rich and the suv belonged to halliburton.

Texas is the only state like that.

Joe Perez 10-30-2012 05:35 PM

Wait, what?

Are you saying that if I live in Texas, and I am hit by another driver while driving my car, that my own health insurance will not pay for the cost of treating whatever injuries I sustain?

So what happens when the cost of my treatment exceeds the bodily injury liability coverage of the at-fault driver? What happens when the driver is not insured? What happens when I am at fault?


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