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Old Jul 10, 2013 | 02:09 PM
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Originally Posted by z31maniac
To be fair, in most communities doesn't Wal-Mart low wages contribute to more gov't dependence through the use of food stamps and welfare? Thereby putting a larger burden on the tax base of the communities in which they operate?

I mean look at Costco, they seem to do fine while paying decent wages and the CEO not taking millions upon millions a year.


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While Wal-Mart is, in my opinion, the epitome of an evil corporation for a whole host of reasons I do not think their rate of pay should be forced. How about the government changes its own behavior in such a way have other factors besides legislation force Wal-Mart's hand.

Focusing on real economic growth would be a great start. Pay tends to increase when your only choice for work is not Wal-Mart, as people currently claim when asked why they work there. You could also re-evaluate how you dish out social welfare. If you let people go hungry or straddle that line they might be more inclined to use their collective power as a work force to organize against Wal-Mart and get better pay on their own. If they can be comfortably poor then there is no need for them to put forth the effort. I am pretty anti-union but sometimes they have a place and I feel that most places tend to get the union they deserve.
Old Jul 10, 2013 | 02:21 PM
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Originally Posted by Ryan_G
While Wal-Mart is, in my opinion, the epitome of an evil corporation for a whole host of reasons I do not think their rate of pay should be forced. How about the government changes its own behavior in such a way have other factors besides legislation force Wal-Mart's hand.

Focusing on real economic growth would be a great start. Pay tends to increase when your only choice for work is not Wal-Mart, as people currently claim when asked why they work there. You could also re-evaluate how you dish out social welfare. If you let people go hungry or straddle that line they might be more inclined to use their collective power as a work force to organize against Wal-Mart and get better pay on their own. If they can be comfortably poor then there is no need for them to put forth the effort. I am pretty anti-union but sometimes they have a place and I feel that most places tend to get the union they deserve.
I think just saying minimum wage is better than no wage is a gross oversimplification of the issue (regarding the previous post).

Now if you want to talk Welfare reform (maybe lets change it to WORKfare?) and reforming the tax code for the purpose of growing the economy........that's a great and worthy debate.

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Originally Posted by z31maniac
I think just saying minimum wage is better than no wage is a gross oversimplification of the issue (regarding the previous post).
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Old Jul 10, 2013 | 03:05 PM
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You must be new around here...
I came here for the gay.
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I came here for the gay.
And i see you stayed for the gay.
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Originally Posted by Ryan_G
While Wal-Mart is, in my opinion, the epitome of an evil corporation for a whole host of reasons I do not think their rate of pay should be forced. How about the government changes its own behavior in such a way have other factors besides legislation force Wal-Mart's hand.

Focusing on real economic growth would be a great start. Pay tends to increase when your only choice for work is not Wal-Mart, as people currently claim when asked why they work there. You could also re-evaluate how you dish out social welfare. If you let people go hungry or straddle that line they might be more inclined to use their collective power as a work force to organize against Wal-Mart and get better pay on their own. If they can be comfortably poor then there is no need for them to put forth the effort. I am pretty anti-union but sometimes they have a place and I feel that most places tend to get the union they deserve.


Oh yeah you're right, there are NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO jobs in the DC metro area. So lets make it harder for non-skilled workers to compete with the college educated unemployed!

Just for a frame of reference, Wal-Mart is, in my opinion, the epitome of all that's good in humanity and if you can't embrace that notion, then the world will never be a better place and we will always have suffering, class warfare, and silly progressive ideas like collectivism.
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D.C. Council approves ‘living wage’ bill over Wal-Mart ultimatum - The Washington Post

“We’re at a point where we don’t need retailers. Retailers need us.”

I'm those non-skilled workers without a job who happen to live in DC are cheering right now!
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his job was to check for sobriety within the limits of the law; not to determine what the driver had to hide inside the cabin.
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Saving money at Wal Mart means I can spend the extra cash somewhere else. Or save it.

Saving money = economic freedom

Wal Mart = economic freedom
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I specifically go to WalMart on the way to Wegmans because there are a few items on my shopping list that are significantly cheaper there.
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I shop at Big Lots whenever possible, because it is my money.
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I specifically don't go to wal-mart because I hate all the people there. I also fear I will get some gross disease from all the nasty people that touch everything there. That place is just a pool of unhygienic people. I'd wager the rate is 1/100 for people that shop there and wash their hands after going to the *******.
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I hate all the people everywhere, so it's pretty much a wash for me.
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Full time hater checking in.
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Whenever I tell my wife that I'm going to mingle among the great unwashed, she knows I'm going to Wal-Mart.

It does have it's therapeutic value however. No matter how bad you feel about your position in life, wandering around Wal-Mart can make you feel like high society.



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