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sixshooter 04-09-2018 08:40 AM

Facebook Zucks.

It knows your name. It knows your birthdate. It knows where you live. It knows where you work. It knows where you went to school. It knows the level of your education. It knows your friends. It knows what you said in private to your friends. It knows all your family members. It knows what you think about political ideas. Its censors political ideas you believe in. It knows controversial and embarrassing things that you said, or watched and shared. It will sell it all to anyone offering enough money, or to the government when asked.

Facebook Zucks.

bahurd 04-09-2018 08:55 AM


Originally Posted by sixshooter (Post 1476203)
Facebook Zucks.

And maybe soon enough it'll know if you've been sick or not. And people worry about the black helicopters but give up all sorts of shit freely.


Facebook sent a doctor on a secret mission to ask hospitals to share patient data
  • Facebook was in talks with top hospitals and other medical groups as recently as last month about a proposal to share data about the social networks of their most vulnerable patients.
  • The idea was to build profiles of people that included their medical conditions, information that health systems have, as well as social and economic factors gleaned from Facebook.
  • Facebook said the project is on hiatus so it can focus on "other important work, including doing a better job of protecting people's data."
Facebook has asked several major U.S. hospitals to share anonymized data about their patients, such as illnesses and prescription info, for a proposed research project. Facebook was intending to match it up with user data it had collected, and help the hospitals figure out which patients might need special care or treatment.

The proposal never went past the planning phases and has been put on pause after the Cambridge Analytica data leak scandal raised public concerns over how Facebook and others collect and use detailed information about Facebook users.

"This work has not progressed past the planning phase, and we have not received, shared, or analyzed anyone's data," a Facebook spokesperson told CNBC.

But as recently as last month, the company was talking to several health organizations, including Stanford Medical School and American College of Cardiology, about signing the data-sharing agreement.
Facebook knows...

EDIT: I thought we had HIPPA laws preventing this?

Braineack 04-09-2018 03:38 PM

https://scontent-ort2-1.xx.fbcdn.net...26&oe=5B6002E7

Braineack 04-09-2018 03:38 PM


Originally Posted by bahurd (Post 1476204)
EDIT: I thought we had HIPPA laws preventing this?

https://scontent-ort2-1.xx.fbcdn.net...4d&oe=5B71D6BC

sixshooter 04-09-2018 03:58 PM

Dafuq?

https://www.motorists.org/blog/the-drug-whisperers/

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You may have heard about people getting speeding tickets not based on the reading of a radar gun or other instrument subject to empirical verification but solely on the basis of an armed government worker’s “training,” his estimation — that is, his or her opinion — about how fast the alleged offender was traveling. In some jurisdictions, this is considered acceptable evidence in court — sufficient to convict.

Now comes the Drug Whisperer. A whole army of them.

These are armed government workers such as Cobb County, Georgia’s TT Carroll — who have received similar “training” and been anointed Certified Drug Recognition Experts, ready to go to war on drugs — even if there aren’t any around.

Carroll and other “trained experts” have arrested numerous motorists on the basis of the mere assertion that they are On Dope.

Nothing more.

Certainly not on the basis of empirical evidence that they actually are On Dope, such as a blood or urine test. That’s too much of an inconvenience — and probably too factual, as well.

Instead, the DRE’s “trained” opinion that the person he or she has waylaid — often on the pretext of a minor traffic offense, such as driving slightly on the shoulder or touching a yellow line, probably with the DRE cop car riding their bumper — is a Doper. The victims are arrested, caged and charged — and must then prove themselves innocent of the charges.

Many of them subsequently have. At least five of Carroll’s victims were found — empirically — to have nothing in their systems whatsoever. But that took months (the state’s crime lab isn’t speedy) and the charges don’t get dropped before the court date unless the DA feels so inclined.

The presumption of guilt applies.

Carroll — and 250 other “trained” government workers in Georgia alone — use scientific techniques such as “observing the subject’s attitude” — the attitude indicating Dope Fiend or not isn’t described — followed by a roadside gymnastics performance similar to the one used to suss out “drunk” drivers. Common clumsiness — aggravated by nervousness — becomes a “tell” that the “subject” is a Doper. As does refusal to perform the test.

He must be high!

The Drug Whisperer then proceeds to an evaluation of muscle tone. If your arms feel “rigid,” you’re on dope. If they are “flaccid,” you’re also on dope!

Whatever your arms feel like, you’re on dope.

Next comes a pulse check. If yours is “high” or “low” — well, you know what that means.

It doesn’t seem to matter that normal pulse rates vary tremendously from individual to individual; some people have resting pulse rates around 40 beats a minute — much lower than the average 60-70. And when you are frightened — as you just might be when standing by the side of the road being interrogated by an armed government worker looking for an excuse to cuff and stuff you — your pulse rate might just go up.

Ah-ha! You are obviously On Dope.

Then comes the most scientific criteria of the DRE’s 12 Step Evaluation Process: It is the moment when the armed government worker “. . . forms an opinion as to whether or not (sic) the subject is impaired.”

Off to the clink you go. Your car goes to the impound lot. Your kids to Protective Services. Better Call Saul.

They could have used DREs during the Salem Witch Trails. It amounts to the same thing, just more bureaucratized. Point a finger — witch! The DRE’s version is “I am seeing involuntary indicators of impairment caused by the marijuana you’ve been smoking” — these are Cobb’s words to one of his victims, a waitress who was later found to have smoked no marijuana at all, insofar as could be detected in her blood.

There is another parallel to Salem.

Like the witch hunters, the DRE has every incentive to form a very specific opinion. Everyone’s a witch! And everyone’s on Dope!

It justifies the exertions.

Carroll, for example, was awarded a silver medal by Mothers Against Drunk Driving for his aggressive opinionating, which put 90 people in the clink in 2016 alone, including the five known to be entirely innocent. He is lauded by his chief as an exemplary opinionator — in the same manner as armed government workers who excel at catching “speeders.”

No doubt there are quotas — official or off the books being immaterial.

This is what’s waiting for you out there on the road — along with summary seizure of any “excess” cash you are found to have on your person, based on the of-a-piece presumption of guilty of something.

The DUI/drug charges against you may eventually be dismissed. After you hire a lawyer and pay for empirical blood/urine tests to prove that the DRE’s opinion was in error.

There are no negative repercussions for the DRE who falsely arrested people, deprived them of their liberty — as well as lots of money.

It is necessary to break eggs if you want to make omelets, you see.

The idea used to be that it was infinitely preferable to not break eggs — to avoid persecuting the innocent even if it made things easier on the guilty. That’s as much out the window, of course, as the idea that we have a right to be free from unreasonable searches, to freely associate and to not be compelled to provide evidence that can and will be used against us in a legal proceeding.

And the taint is not confined to Georgia, home of Carroll and ilk.

The Drug Evaluation and Classification Program “certifies” thousands of armed government workers in all 50 states. This “certification,” incidentally, is conferred by other armed government workers — the International Association of Chiefs of Police. Not disinterested third-party professionals who might actually have some expertise in the area, such as doctors.

Be careful out there. The Homeland isn’t what it used to be. /quote

sixshooter 04-09-2018 04:28 PM

http://www.decp.org/drug-recognition...-become-a-dre/


During this phase the candidate DRE must complete a minimum of 12 drug evaluations under the supervision of a trained DRE instructor. Of those 12 evaluations, the officer must identify an individual under the influence of at least three of the seven drug categories and obtain a minimum 75% toxicological corroboration rate.
So, they only need to be 75% correct in a controlled classroom setting after 72 hours of training? Nice. How much more accurate will they be in the middle of the night on the side of the road with a weary driver? Or one suffering allergies? Or with too much coffee trying to stay awake? Or one with low blood sugar? I've got a buddy with saggy eyelids that used to be nicknamed "Sleepy" in school. I know people who stammer and others that talk really slow. One good lawsuit needs to make this go away.

Makes me think of the stories I've heard on the podcasts from the Innocence Project. https://www.innocenceproject.org/

If some cops were treated the way that some cops treat people...

Joe Perez 04-09-2018 04:42 PM


Originally Posted by sixshooter (Post 1476293)
If some cops were treated the way that some cops treat people...

Serious answer:

They are, on a daily basis. That's why some of them have a shitty outlook towards humanity. My brother-in-law has some stories... (Think Florida Man.)


Anyway, pro tip: try not to interact with the police while under the influence of illegal substances. I find that this makes life easier, despite being a hispanic in Chicago.

Also, as usual, the standard advice applies. When in a heated situation, regardless of who caused the escalation, do not run towards the cop while shouting and carrying any object which could be mistaken for a weapon. This minor inconvenience is less obtrusive than a visit to the surgical ward and/or a funeral.

sixshooter 04-09-2018 04:44 PM

I meant if they were treated that way by other cops, but I see where I wasn't clear.

ryansmoneypit 04-09-2018 04:44 PM

... I have been in this situation myself. Ca. BLM officers- Pulled me over for no front plate, he was never in front of me. I was quickly accused of being "on weed", he could smell it he said. I said I did not agree and that we were standing in a windstorm. I explained (big mistake) that the wind was blowing away from him into me, making it impossible to smell anything from me. Almost instantly surrounded by three officers. They tried and were fairly successful at scaring the shit out of me. I had one buddy in the passenger seat, in the middle of the desert. I asked passenger to film what was going on. Then they drew guns and told us not to move.

I said I needed to call a lawyer. after a quick huddle, They let us go. I get so mad even thinking about it.

Braineack 04-09-2018 04:53 PM

that time you were investigating a made up story, but now will stop at nothing to find something/anything:

https://www.nytimes.com/2018/04/09/u...ael-cohen.html

Braineack 04-09-2018 04:57 PM

meanwhile in the rest of the world:

https://www.theblaze.com/news/2018/0...bbing-epidemic


London Mayor Sadiq Khan enacts ‘knife control’ policies to crack down on stabbing epidemic



:bowrofl:

mgeoffriau 04-09-2018 09:02 PM

HIPAA, guys. HIPAA.

Braineack 04-10-2018 08:30 AM

:greddy:

In Response To Growing Number Of Fistfights, London Mayor Bans Hands


LONDON—In response to a recent outbreak in fistfights, London mayor Sadiq Khan announced Monday a sweeping ban of hands in the city, effective immediately.

“No excuses: there is never a reason to have hands in a modern, civil society. Anyone who does will be caught, and they will feel the full force of the law,” Khan said at a press conference announcing the new policy during which he revealed that he has had his own hands surgically removed as a good-faith move to jump-start the new regulations.

Along with the new hand-control measures, Khan announced a new task force focused on purging the city of hands, as well as an expanded police presence focused on stopping and searching citizens who they think may have failed to have their hands removed from their person.

At publishing time, rumors were swirling that the mayor was planning on banning feet after two handless men got into a quarrel and began kicking each other.


https://scontent-ort2-1.xx.fbcdn.net...6e&oe=5B2EE184

Joe Perez 04-10-2018 08:59 AM


Originally Posted by Braineack (Post 1476389)


https://cimg6.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.mia...04357ed327.png

Braineack 04-10-2018 12:00 PM

shots fired:

https://scontent-ort2-1.xx.fbcdn.net...d8&oe=5B6419CD

shuiend 04-10-2018 12:03 PM


Originally Posted by Joe Perez (Post 1476298)
Anyway, pro tip: try not to interact with the police while under the influence of illegal substances. I find that this makes life easier, despite being a hispanic in Chicago.

About 1:40 in is where the parts that is relevant.

Monk 04-10-2018 12:26 PM


Originally Posted by Joe Perez (Post 1476392)

Talk about cherry picking data.
I realize it's a pithy meme, but it conveniently left out a dozen or so examples of extremely restrictive cities.
Never mind factors such as gang activity, income levels, or even the layout of the city.

Joe Perez 04-10-2018 12:49 PM


Originally Posted by Monk (Post 1476427)
Talk about cherry picking data.
I realize it's a pithy meme, but it conveniently left out a dozen or so examples of extremely restrictive cities.
Never mind factors such as gang activity, income levels, or even the layout of the city.

You're saying that I cherry-picked my data?

Ok, here's a full dataset, sorted by homicide rate. If restrictive firearms laws cause an increase in violent crime, then we should expect to see areas with strong firearms controls disproportionately represented at the top, and areas with lax firearms laws disproportionaly absent from the top.

Instead, we see the obvious: violent crime more or less tracks poverty, low educational achievement, etc. This is why poorer cities such as Memphis, Houston, Kansas City, Atlanta, Tulsa, Durham, Oklahoma City, Jacksonville, etc., all have higher homicide rates than San Diego, NYC, Seattle, Anaheim, etc., despite the fact that the former have extremely permissive firearms laws, and in many cases permit open-carry.


https://cimg2.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.mia...1cb120f3fa.gif

Braineack 04-10-2018 01:07 PM

but isn't it a better comparison to look at cities WITH strong gun-regulations?

Monk 04-10-2018 01:11 PM


Originally Posted by Joe Perez (Post 1476432)
If restrictive firearms laws cause an increase in violent crime

I don't believe I've ever argued this, although I have made the case that tighter restictions don't do much to decrease violent crime.


Originally Posted by Joe Perez (Post 1476432)
Instead, we see the obvious: violent crime more or less tracks poverty, low educational achievement, etc.

Right.
In urban areas at least.
Rural areas have their own problems, but high homicide rates aren't typically one of them.


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