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If you murder someone, you are denying them the right to life.
Sorry, but the shoe doesn't fit.
And usually bills are a retarded way aimed at solving a problem. What is the solve here? Are 50yo's fathering children a problem; so much so it requires medical intervention? What is the limit on children supposed to curtail?
Is this finally going to solve globalwarmingclimatechange?
could it be that Democrats really have no more good solutions, everything they try fails miserably, and all they have left is to be bitter and just spend there lives "getting" republicans?
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Are 50yo's fathering children a problem; so much so it requires medical intervention? What is the limit on children supposed to curtail?
Is this finally going to solve globalwarmingclimatechange?
could it be that Democrats really have no more good solutions, everything they try fails miserably, and all they have left is to be bitter and just spend there lives "getting" republicans?
No on all counts, but you're getting slightly warmer towards the end.
People who support abortion believe that a fetus is not a human, and that the self-interest of the mother is the only concern. To them, limits on access to abortion are nothing more than the state taking away a woman's liberty to control her body.
People who oppose abortion believe that a fetus is a human, and that the right of that fetus to remain alive outweighs the interests of the woman. Their principal motivation is the prevention of murder.
As a broad generalization, people who are strongly opinionated about the issue (to either extreme) tend to refuse to acknowledge the actual motivations of their opponent, and instead ascribe to them false motives which can then be argued against as though it were a clear and logical moral imperative. In effect, both sides are creating straw-men.
No on all counts, but you're getting slightly warmer towards the end.
People who support abortion believe that a fetus is not a human, and that the self-interest of the mother is the only concern. To them, limits on access to abortion are nothing more than the state taking away a woman's liberty to control her body.
People who oppose abortion believe that a fetus is a human, and that the right of that fetus to remain alive outweighs the interests of the woman. Their principal motivation is the prevention of murder.
And there are those who don’t support abortion but do recognize it’s not their right to impose personal views on others and support pro-choice.
As a broad generalization, people who are strongly opinionated about the issue (to either extreme) tend to refuse to acknowledge the actual motivations of their opponent, and instead ascribe to them false motives which can then be argued against as though it were a clear and logical moral imperative. In effect, both sides are creating straw-men.
It's funny how the same people usually that are pro "life" don't care about the life as soon as it's born.. much less programs that help this new born life. That's what it comes down to for me, if some government will force the mother go through the pregnancy, will they help her support it? Alabama is pushing to outlaw all abortions including in the case of rape, incest, and even in cases where the mother's life is in danger because of complications.. I guess the mothers life doesn't matter eh? And then you have the religious folks pushing the bible... doesnt it say in the bible that life begins at first breath? Sooo by that theory, abortion up to 9 months is completely fine... or do we choose to ignore that part of the bible because it's an inconvenience to the argument?
Also orange man now loves criminals... I wouldn't be surprised if he hires him to do his books too..
"President Donald Trump on Tuesday announced a wave of sentence commutations and pardons, including for disgraced financier Michael Milken, who was convicted in 1990 of securities fraud.
As part of his clemency blitz, Trump also commuted the sentence of former Illinois Gov. Rod Blagojevich, who was convicted of federal corruption charges, including for an attempt to sell the U.S. Senate seat previously held by then-President Barack Obama."
Criminals kids dont fall too far away from their criminal parents.
"President Donald Trump’s three eldest children have agreed to undergo a mandatory training seminar to ensure they don’t fraudulently misuse charity funds in the future."
Can we stop funding those leeching Republicans please...
"If you look only at the first measure—how much the federal government spends per person in each state compared with the amount its citizens pay in federal income taxes—other states stand out, particularly South Carolina: The Palmetto State receives $7.87 back from Washington for every $1 its citizens pay in federal tax."
And then you have the religious folks pushing the bible... doesnt it say in the bible that life begins at first breath?
Numerous times. Genesis 2:7, Psalms 33:6, Ezekiel 37: 9-10, and Isaiah 42:5 spring up rather quickly. There are other sources which I'm too lazy to dig up at the moment. But yes, the "breath of life" is the essence of life, from a scriptural point of view. And that which has not breath has not life.
Sooo by that theory, abortion up to 9 months is completely fine...
More than that, the Bible actually gives a potion recipe and procedure for its use, in Numbers 5:11-31, for a priest to cause an abortion in a woman who is suspected of being unfaithful to her husband.
or do we choose to ignore that part of the bible because it's an inconvenience to the argument?
That, plus the parts where you can sell your daughters into slavery (Exodus 21:7), where you must be put to death for working on the Sabbath (Exodus 35:2), where touching a pig makes you unclean (Leviticus 11:7), where you can't plant different crops beside one another or wear clothes made from two different types of cloth (Leviticus 19:19), where you can't eat shrimp, lobster, crab, etc (Leviticus 11:10), and so on.
The Bible would be *way* too inconvenient if you weren't allowed to pick and choose only those parts of it which support your pre-existing prejudices.
It's funny how the same people usually that are pro "life" don't care about the life as soon as it's born.. much less programs that help this new born life.
That's intentionally dense.
I must hate black people if I don't want them killing babies AND I don't want to pay them welfare? **** that nonsense. And yes, white women have abortions too, but there's no market in it either way.
A conversation that is far more understandable is that most people who support free and unlimited abortions up to and including the point of crowning on an otherwise healthy baby will absolutely lose their **** and accuse you of being a rampaging murderer of the innocent if you tell them that you occasionally go hunt deer and OMG, THE HORROR, eat them.
A conversation that is far more understandable is that most people who support free and unlimited abortions up to and including the point of crowning on an otherwise healthy baby will absolutely lose their **** and accuse you of being a rampaging murderer of the innocent if you tell them that you occasionally go hunt deer and OMG, THE HORROR, eat them.
I fully support free and unlimited abortions. I will gladly pay for them with my tax bill, as it's a net win overall as compared to the long-term costs (both economic and social) of the alternative.
I also have absolutely no problem with you or anyone else going out and bagging deer, fowl, rabbits, or whatever else you have a good recipe for.
Numerous times. Genesis 2:7, Psalms 33:6, Ezekiel 37: 9-10, and Isaiah 42:5 spring up rather quickly. There are other sources which I'm too lazy to dig up at the moment. But yes, the "breath of life" is the essence of life, from a scriptural point of view. And that which has not breath has not life.
More than that, the Bible actually gives a potion recipe and procedure for its use, in Numbers 5:11-31, for a priest to cause an abortion in a woman who is suspected of being unfaithful to her husband.
That, plus the parts where you can sell your daughters into slavery (Exodus 21:7), where you must be put to death for working on the Sabbath (Exodus 35:2), where touching a pig makes you unclean (Leviticus 11:7), where you can't plant different crops beside one another or wear clothes made from two different types of cloth (Leviticus 19:19), where you can't eat shrimp, lobster, crab, etc (Leviticus 11:10), and so on.
The Bible would be *way* too inconvenient if you weren't allowed to pick and choose only those parts of it which support your pre-existing prejudices.
You left out the parts where masturbation is a sin (spilling your seed).
"President Donald Trump’s three eldest children have agreed to undergo a mandatory training seminar to ensure they don’t fraudulently misuse charity funds in the future."
Show me one example of Trump misusing charity funds. Hint: you can't.
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