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Braineack 03-23-2020 12:14 PM


Originally Posted by BGordon (Post 1564958)
Just because an idea sounds good at the time doesn't mean it passes the test of time.
Another way to say it; Hindsight is 20/20

I mean it's Trump's fault anyway.

Joe Perez 03-23-2020 12:50 PM

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wackbards 03-23-2020 12:58 PM

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Portland OR strip club delivering food. "Boober eats"

Braineack 03-23-2020 02:22 PM

Footage of the Senate floor after Democrats, yet again, vote no on a stimus bill to help Americans and our economy:

Facebook Post


fucking violent bigots. Oh wait, they can't help it.

Braineack 03-23-2020 03:48 PM

https://scontent-iad3-1.xx.fbcdn.net...9b&oe=5E9E01D6

meanwhile Nancy's Bill includes:
  • provisions for conducting risk-limiting audits of results of elections
  • includes sections about paid studies of “pay equity” between “racial and ethnic minorities” and their “white counterparts,” as well as a “comparison of pay between and women for similar roles and assignments.”
  • collect “Corporate board data, including total number of board members, gender, race, and ethnic identity of board members.”
  • Provisions for early voting and same-day voter registration,
  • airlines “provide passengers with information regarding greenhouse gas emissions resulting from each individual flight.”
  • includes retirement security for journalists and bailout for local newspapers, many which already charge readers a substantial monthly fee to read articles.

triple88a 03-24-2020 02:59 AM

You mean because the bill basically writes the top 1% an open check and with some crumbs for the middle and low class that Trump will get back with further increase in tariffs? An average person making 40k a year spends 12-1500 on tarrifs. Who gives a shit that my "taxes" went down 300-400 bucks in the end?

Originally Posted by Braineack (Post 1564973)
Footage of the Senate floor after Democrats, yet again, vote no on a stimus bill to help Americans and our economy:


Braineack 03-24-2020 07:34 AM


Originally Posted by triple88a (Post 1564999)
You mean because the bill basically writes the top 1% an open check and with some crumbs for the middle and low class that Trump will get back with further increase in tariffs? An average person making 40k a year spends 12-1500 on tarrifs. Who gives a shit that my "taxes" went down 300-400 bucks in the end?

Oh hello, Miss Information. How's it going!?!

Are you trying to insinuate that Nancy's Relief Bill Green New Deal is somehow better?

The "republican" bill went through 5 bipartisan committees before it went to the floor after 48 hours of rigourous debate and compromise between parties. Nancy flew in from CA, and handed Americans a bunch of progressive bullshit that is not designed to help anyone.

In the "open check" bill, it limited excutive compensation to $425,000, restricted stock buybacks, and maintained payrolls until the loans are paid back. Read that again: the loans must be repaid. But you know, those companies could just fire their employees instead of continuing to employ and pay them...almost like this bill was designed as a zero-interest loan program to compensate businesses harmed by government lockdown to keep the economy alive.


These are things in the Green New Deal Emergency Relief To Americans Package:
  • $100,000,000 to NASA
  • $20,000,000,000 to USPS
  • $300,000,000 to the Endowment for the Arts
  • $15,000,000 for Veteran's Empoyment Training
  • $435,000,000 for mental health support
  • $30,000,000,0000 for DOE
  • $200,000,000 for Safe Schools Emergency Response to Violence
  • $300,000,000 to Public Broadcasting / NPR
  • $500,000,000 to Musuems and Libraries
  • $720,000,000 to SSA -- only $200,000,000 of the $720,000,000 actually goes to American citizens, btw, the rest is the cost of Gov't impliementation/paperwork/redtape that you love so very much.
  • $25,000,000 for "cleaning suppiles" for the Capital Building ( Read: cooking the books )
  • $300,000,000 for Migration and Refugee Assistance pg 147
  • $35,000,000 to he John F. Kennedy Center for the Performing Arts
  • $1,000,000,000 for emergency lifeline broadband benefit (i.e., Obamaphones)
  • Collective bargaining powers for unions
  • Wiping out up to $10,000 in student loan debt per person
  • Require coroporations provide pay statistics by race
  • 1/3 of board members must be chosen by the workers
  • Requiring board member diversity by race & sex
  • A Full offset of airline emissions by 2025
  • Greenhouse has statistics for individual flights
  • Retirement plans for community newspaper employees
  • $15 min wage
  • Permanent paid leave
  • Expansion of wind and solar tax credits
  • Automatic extension of nonimmigrant visas
  • Restricting colleges from providing information about citizenship status
  • $300,000,000 for the Endowment for the Humanities
  • $7,500,000 to the Smithsonian for additional salaries
  • $25,000,000 for additional salary for House of Representatives
  • $3,000,000,000 upgrade to the IT department at the VA
  • $315,000,000 for State Department Diplomatic Programs
  • $95,000,000 for the Agency of International Development
  • $300,000,000 for International Disaster Assistance
  • $90,000,000 for the Peace Corp pg 148
  • $13,000,000 to Howard University pg 121
  • $ 9,000,000 Misc Senate Expenses pg 134
  • $100,000,000 to Essential Air carriers pg 162
  • $40,000,000,000 goes to the Take Responsibility to Workers and Families Act. Pg 164
  • $1,000,000,000 Airlines Recycle and Save Program pg 163
  • $25,000,000 to the FAA for administrative costs pg 165
  • $492,000,000 to National Railroad Passenger Corporation (Amtrak) pg 167
  • $526,000,000 Grants to Amtrak to remain available if needed through 2021 pg 168
  • the Secretary has 7 days to allocate the funds & notify Congress pg 174
  • $25,000,000,000 for Transit Infrastructure pg 169
  • $3,000,000 Maritime Administration pg 172
  • $5,000,000 Salaries and Expenses Office of the Inspector General pg 172
  • $2,500,000 Public and Indian Housing pg 175
  • $5,000,000 Community Planning and Development pg 175
  • $2,500,000 Office of Housing
You could actually read the bill yourself: https://apps.npr.org/documents/docum...qJM43hR_dv1WBc

But, we all know you won't and you'll continue this:
https://scontent-bos3-1.xx.fbcdn.net...90&oe=5EA020D2


Don't forget, while Trump was declaring a national emergancy and closing our borders with China, Democrats were still trying to impeach him and call him racist for doing so. It was only until Feb 5, the day he was accquited, democrats finally took up the Cornavirus issue in subcommittee.


Don't let a good pandemic go to waste, amirite?! Honk. Im so horny right now.

Braineack 03-24-2020 07:59 AM


According to MSNBC host Chris Hayes, conservatives, Republicans and Donald Trump are ready to kill a "million" senior citizens as a way of saving the economy from the coronavirus.

Hayes said, "And now, after about a week of that economic dislocation, as we continue to climb up the exponential curve of cases and of deaths, the President is now listening to voices on the right that say, 'Really, what's a million seniors when you're thinking about the whole economy?'"

He added, "This has been a central conservative, right wing idea forever. It's the same reason there are arguments for why we don't need clean air regulations, even if tens of thousands of people die every year of lung disease from additional pollution. It's just now it's being applied in this extreme case in the midst of a global pandemic and a growing exponential curve."
Imagine being able to go on air, and just make up shit, and the usefuls gobble it up as fact!

bahurd 03-24-2020 08:38 AM

I’m old enough to remember when death panels were a thing pushed by the conservatives.

z31maniac 03-24-2020 08:42 AM


Originally Posted by triple88a (Post 1564999)
You mean because the bill basically writes the top 1% an open check and with some crumbs for the middle and low class that Trump will get back with further increase in tariffs? An average person making 40k a year spends 12-1500 on tarrifs. Who gives a shit that my "taxes" went down 300-400 bucks in the end?

Pragmatic question:

Does giving a family $3k really matter if they still don't have a job, or somewhere else to get one in a month?

Braineack 03-24-2020 08:50 AM


Originally Posted by bahurd (Post 1565009)
I’m old enough to remember when death panels were a thing pushed by the conservatives.

Death Panels do no exisit.

https://www.express.co.uk/news/world...rly-death-toll




Coronavirus latest: Intensive care units in Italy urged to STOP treating elderly

PUBLISHED: 00:01, Thu, Mar 12, 2020 | UPDATED: 01:11, Thu, Mar 12, 2020

Braineack 03-24-2020 11:36 AM

I would hate to be a blue collar democrat worker in PA and live in a Hyman Properties building and rely on the Democrats I put into office to help me in my time of need right now.

Joe Perez 03-24-2020 11:38 AM


Originally Posted by Braineack (Post 1565024)
I would hate to be a blue collar democrat worker in PA and live in a Hyman Properties building and rely on the Democrats I put into office to help me in my time of need right now.

Why?

(Statements such as the above are confusing with zero context. I have no idea who Hyman Properties is, or what makes their buildings unique.)

Braineack 03-24-2020 11:53 AM


Originally Posted by Joe Perez (Post 1565025)
Why?

(Statements such as the above are confusing with zero context. I have no idea who Hyman Properties is, or what makes their buildings unique.)


Bro. It's a tactic to get you to do your own research, read, and learn.

https://scontent-bos3-1.xx.fbcdn.net...c8&oe=5EA015DA

https://www.lehighvalleylive.com/cor...-pandemic.html

Joe Perez 03-24-2020 11:58 AM

Ah, so they require that people pay rent in exchange for not being kicked out?

Man, that's rough. Never heard of a landlord who had that policy before.


Originally Posted by Braineack (Post 1565028)
Bro. It's a tactic to get you to do your own research, read, and learn.

Buy, so little of what you post is worth my time. Can you imagine how little I'd get done in a day if I tracked down every vague or misleading thing you posted in this thread? :giggle:




Originally Posted by Braineack (Post 1565028)
.and rely on the Democrats I put into office to help me in my time of need right now.

Looks like that has happened:
The Pennsylvania Supreme Court ruled last week that no one can be evicted, ejected or otherwise displaced from a home because of failure to make rent or mortgage payments during a court shutdown, which will extend through at least April 3.

Braineack 03-24-2020 12:37 PM

Well hopefully the $25,000,000 for additional salary for House of Representatives will help Hyman Residents even further.

Joe Perez 03-24-2020 01:13 PM

https://scontent-ort2-1.xx.fbcdn.net...6e&oe=5EA15594

z31maniac 03-24-2020 02:11 PM


Originally Posted by Joe Perez (Post 1565032)
Looks like that has happened:
The Pennsylvania Supreme Court ruled last week that no one can be evicted, ejected or otherwise displaced from a home because of failure to make rent or mortgage payments during a court shutdown, which will extend through at least April 3.

Happened in a lot of places. I think the Mayor of Tulsa said, evictions will be pushed back and no one's water/gas/electricity/cable will be connected for being past due for now.

bahurd 03-24-2020 02:27 PM


Originally Posted by Braineack (Post 1565024)
I would hate to be a blue collar democrat worker in PA and live in a Hyman Properties building and rely on the Democrats I put into office to help me in my time of need right now.

They probably learned from Jared... Oh, be sure to post his response how he’s going to help.

Will Jared Kushner’s Real Estate Empire Give Renters a Break? He’s Not Saying.

Joe Perez 03-24-2020 02:42 PM


Originally Posted by z31maniac (Post 1565049)
Happened in a lot of places. I think the Mayor of Tulsa said, evictions will be pushed back and no one's water/gas/electricity/cable will be connected for being past due for now.


Impossible. The mayor of Tulsa is a Republican, and therefore a nazi. Nazis only care about shoveling people into death-camps and saying that there are only two genders.


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