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mgeoffriau 04-12-2012 11:10 AM


Originally Posted by Braineack (Post 863205)
EBT cards in general bother me. I just had no idea one could withdraw cash form them. that makes it even worse. As there is supossed to be "limit" in what types of products you can buy with them...but we all know that's not the case.

or am i confusing welfare payments and food stamps?

Why does it matter at all? It doesn't matter if you limit purchases to food and non-alcoholic beverages (like SNAP funds) or not at all (like cash benefits). The recipient uses the benefits for food or whatever, and then uses his own money (previously budgeted for food) on whatever his heart desires.

There are plenty of reasons to questions the utility of government benefits, but unrestricted purchases isn't one of them. You're increasing the recipients overall budget, and he or she will find ways to adjust their spending in the categories they want, regardless of whatever "restrictions" you put on their purchases with those benefits.

Braineack 04-12-2012 11:13 AM

true.

FRT_Fun 04-12-2012 11:14 AM

Buying votes.

Vashthestampede 04-12-2012 11:21 AM

EBT card recipients SHOULD have restrictions. Chances are, they already have somehow proven they cant make important decisions for themselves, so, since we carry them, we should tell them what they can/can't spend it on.

My dollar is my dollar, no matter who's ------- hand its in. That's how I feel at least.

Let these ----------ers earn their own and then they can decide what they want to waste it on.

mgeoffriau 04-12-2012 11:28 AM


Originally Posted by Vashthestampede (Post 863223)
EBT card recipients SHOULD have restrictions. Chances are, they already have somehow proven they cant make important decisions for themselves, so, since we carry them, we should tell them what they can/can't spend it on.

It's fine to feel that way, but you're not going to stop them from using it how they please.

Does it really make you feel better if they have to a $100 EBT card on food, and then spend their new personal surplus of $100 on beer?

Vashthestampede 04-12-2012 11:35 AM


Originally Posted by mgeoffriau (Post 863225)
It's fine to feel that way, but you're not going to stop them from using it how they please.

Does it really make you feel better if they have to a $100 EBT card on food, and then spend their new personal surplus of $100 on beer?

Yeah, you cant necessarily tell them how to spend it, but you should be able to tell the merchants how to accept it.

A guy goes into the supermarket for food that's one thing, but alcohol and cigarettes shouldn't even be considered. No matter what kind of "government card" it comes off of.

Can you really withdraw cash at ATM's with these cards? If so, that's outrageously ------- ridiculous.

mgeoffriau 04-12-2012 11:41 AM

You're not addressing the real issue -- purchase restrictions (no matter whether it applies to the consumer or vendor) do nothing but force a simple budgetary shift. Spend this money here, spend that money there.

If you don't like the idea of "your money" being spent how the recipient desires, then you should be against government benefits entirely, because purchase restrictions do nothing to address the issue.

gearhead_318 04-12-2012 01:26 PM


Originally Posted by FRT_Fun (Post 863219)
Buying votes.

I don't think people w/ EBT cards, food stamps or welfare are big on voting.

Vashthestampede 04-12-2012 01:36 PM


Originally Posted by Shearhead_3:16 (Post 863303)
I don't think people w/ EBT cards, food stamps or welfare are big on voting.

You kidding? With all the handouts they got from Obama they'd be crazy not to try and keep him in office. Trust me, they vote.

Braineack 04-12-2012 01:38 PM


hustler 04-12-2012 01:44 PM

I love all this Ann Romney ----.

I keep looking but see nothing, apparently she's never had a professional job as an adult as I can tell.

Braineack 04-12-2012 01:47 PM

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gearhead_318 04-12-2012 01:50 PM


Originally Posted by Vashthestampede (Post 863312)
You kidding? With all the handouts they got from Obama they'd be crazy not to try and keep him in office. Trust me, they vote.

They've been getting various forms of welfare from many Presidents, not just Obama.
If somebody is too lazy to get a job, more then likely they are too lazy to vote.

hustler 04-12-2012 01:50 PM


Originally Posted by Braineack (Post 863320)

Geroge Zimmerman worked hard too.

Braineack 04-12-2012 01:57 PM


Originally Posted by hustler (Post 863324)
Geroge Zimmerman worked hard too.


you probably saw this live but:


Vashthestampede 04-12-2012 01:58 PM


Originally Posted by Shearhead_3:16 (Post 863322)
They've been getting various forms of welfare from many Presidents, not just Obama.
If somebody is too lazy to get a job, more then likely they are too lazy to vote.

Staying on the government tit becomes their job buddy.

While Obama didn't start government handouts, he sure as ---- made it a hell of a lot easier to get on them and stay on them.

Scrappy Jack 04-12-2012 02:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Vashthestampede (Post 863223)
My dollar is my dollar, no matter who's ------- hand its in. That's how I feel at least.

It's the government's dollar, not yours. :party:

This is where your tax dollars actually go.

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gearhead_318 04-12-2012 02:00 PM


Originally Posted by Vashthestampede (Post 863327)
Staying on the government tit becomes their job buddy.

Don't get pissy, you know what I meant.


Originally Posted by Vashthestampede (Post 863327)
While Obama didn't start government handouts, he sure as ---- made it a hell of a lot easier to get on them and stay on them.

How?

hustler 04-12-2012 02:01 PM


Originally Posted by Braineack (Post 863326)
you probably saw this live but:


The View is unwatchable. Maybe later after I shoot heroin or something.

Braineack 04-12-2012 02:10 PM

whoopie has spokith.


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