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Old 03-21-2011, 03:58 AM
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Originally Posted by FRT_Fun View Post
Meh not much of a war to be honest. Conventional is easy.
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Originally Posted by Pen2_the_penguin View Post
our air force will pwn them.
Air Force? Hell, our Navy is pwning them by remote control with cruise missiles. The reports say >110 Tomahawks sent from both British and American forces.

Sidebar: According to the Wikipedia entry on the subject, a Tomahawk costs $3,756,000 on average in 2011 dollars. 110 of them would therefore cost $413,160,000.
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yep. War is expensive.


this no-fly zone will cost something like 1-2billion a week. dont quote me on that, cant remember real projections
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Why can he be treated like he was when regan was in office? He put that dumbass in his place faster than flies find fresh dog **** lol
Because Reagan went hard and Obama is a *****.
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My solution to the problems in Africa and the Middle East are very controversial, but would solve 99% of the issues that keep reoccurring.
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Originally Posted by Braineack View Post
My solution to the problems in Africa and the Middle East are very controversial, but would solve 99% of the issues that keep reoccurring.
Go on...
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without letting Assange know all my secrets, keyword is NUKE.
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The United States is one of the five recognized nuclear powers under the Nuclear Non-Proliferation Treaty ("NPT"). As of September 2009 it possessed 5,113 warheads operationally deployed, in active reserve, or held in inactive storage. This figure compares to a peak of 31,225 total warheads in 1967 and 22,217 in 1989, and does not include "several thousand" warheads that have been retired and scheduled for dismantlement.
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Of those, at least 1,702 are actively deployed in either SLBM (submarine-launched) or ICBM (silo-launched) form.

So, realistically, it really would just require the press of a button. No need to even roust the bomber crews out of bed.




Thought experiment: What would happen if we actually did this? Assume that we held in reserve a sufficiently large number of warheads to annihilate ten times over anybody who objected to our homicidally insane use of force against the aforementioned targets in Africa and the Middle East. What would the world be like (politically, economically, socially) after the fallout from the first strike settled?
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people would be mad for a while. but ends justifies means.
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Originally Posted by Braineack View Post
without letting Assange know all my secrets, keyword is NUKE.
Please no, Greece is right next to N. Africa.
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The “into to megasquirt thread” mentions that the MS3 basic has 5 inputs with built in pull up resistors - and I was just wondering why it would have so many, while the MS3Pro PnP has just 2 (with no pull ups?)
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Relax. We'll wait until the wind is blowing in a southerly direction.

Geez, these Greek folks thinking that just because we want to blow up half the surface of the earth we don't realize that unless we're careful, our children will grow up in a world without mousakas.
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Relax. We'll wait until the wind is blowing in a southerly direction.

Geez, these Greek folks thinking that just because we want to blow up half the surface of the earth we don't realize that unless we're careful, our children will grow up in a world without mousakas.
I kinda hate these stereotypes about Greece, you know, about the greek mousaka etc.

Gyro is the ****, not mousaka.
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... and here I thought gyro would sound stereotypical. Shows you what I know.

edit: do you have any idea how hard it is to find mousaka in the US? Seriously? I mean, they have gyro (and dolmadakia, and spanakopita, and souvlaki, and baklava...) in practically every shopping mall here. I was really trying hard to think of something obscure-yet-recognizable to the average American.
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Originally Posted by Joe Perez View Post
The United States is one of the five recognized nuclear powers under the Nuclear Non-Proliferation Treaty ("NPT"). As of September 2009 it possessed 5,113 warheads operationally deployed, in active reserve, or held in inactive storage. This figure compares to a peak of 31,225 total warheads in 1967 and 22,217 in 1989, and does not include "several thousand" warheads that have been retired and scheduled for dismantlement.
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Of those, at least 1,702 are actively deployed in either SLBM (submarine-launched) or ICBM (silo-launched) form.

So, realistically, it really would just require the press of a button. No need to even roust the bomber crews out of bed.


Thought experiment: What would happen if we actually did this? Assume that we held in reserve a sufficiently large number of warheads to annihilate ten times over anybody who objected to our homicidally insane use of force against the aforementioned targets in Africa and the Middle East. What would the world be like (politically, economically, socially) after the fallout from the first strike settled?
The bombed countries would return to the stone age, the area would continue to be tribal and lawless, and the survivors and surviving relatives would have even more of a reason to hate The United States. Without the ability to establish a politically recognizeable government, small areas would generally be ruled by "the dictator who killed the last dictator" until a group of people decided to cooperate to seize control of an area. That group would force out opponents and generally destroy the ability of potential opponents to even exist. Over time, the new party would gain power and spread its influence to neighboring towns and cities, continuing to rule by fear. Neighboring regions would do the same until you had a handful of regions whose dictatorial governments could fight each other but none would be able to gain ground on any others, so they would be at constant war. The total transformation would probably take about 3-5 years from the time of nuking.

So basically, there would be a lot of dead people, and a lot of living people that hate The United States more than they ever have, but otherwise, things will stay the same.

The only possible exception is if a strong community existed somewhere in the area that decided to put together a real democracy or other government, intent on serving and protecting its people, if that community could spread its influence as fast as the dictatorial governments, at least initially, as well as defending itself from those governments, it might have a chance to exist and grow...unfortunately, we're hoping for something good out of a nation of people who laziness, greed, and selfishness makes capitalist america look like The United States of 1776. Finding enough people in that entire country to commit to serving the public good for a small community would be an impossible task, let alone finding them after we bomb them back to the dinosaurs.
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Originally Posted by Joe Perez View Post
... and here I thought gyro would sound stereotypical. Shows you what I know.

edit: do you have any idea how hard it is to find mousaka in the US? Seriously? I mean, they have gyro (and dolmadakia, and spanakopita, and souvlaki, and baklava...) in practically every shopping mall here. I was really trying hard to think of something obscure-yet-recognizable to the average American.
Mousaka group buy anyone?
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Originally Posted by Reverant View Post
Mousaka group buy anyone?
Mousaka for malaka, trava psofa skrofa
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Originally Posted by Pusha View Post
Mousaka for malaka, trava psofa skrofa
Got yourself a greek boyfriend I see...
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