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Old 01-10-2014, 07:38 PM   #61
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don't teach 16yo girls how to heel toe in a 300hp miata on the Dragon?
Harsh - but possibly true.
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Old 01-10-2014, 10:47 PM   #62
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I'd like to think we can learn something from this;
One never knows what may happen in the future let alone day to day so try to take full advantage of all the time we have left to have an enjoyable and fulfilling life.
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Old 01-13-2014, 08:50 AM   #63
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Harsh - but possibly true.
it's not harsh and it's totally true.
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R.I.P Roy. Sad to see things like this happen.
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Old 01-14-2014, 01:05 PM   #65
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Live by the sword die by the sword. Some folks just don't know their limitations. It creates bad press for every responsible driver out there.
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Old 01-14-2014, 01:42 PM   #66
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Some folks just don't know their limitations. It creates bad press for every responsible driver out there.
Did you pay any attention whatsoever to what caused this accident, or are you just spouting off **** you have no idea about.

Maybe you should read a bit so you don't sound like such a blithering idiot.
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Old 01-16-2014, 07:25 PM   #67
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Live by the sword die by the sword. Some folks just don't know their limitations. It creates bad press for every responsible driver out there.
Dude, are you that dense? None of the articles mentioned any excessive speed and on the first page if i'm not mistaken it was cleared up exactly what happened.
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Old 01-16-2014, 08:40 PM   #68
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Did you pay any attention whatsoever to what caused this accident, or are you just spouting off **** you have no idea about.
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Dude, are you that dense? None of the articles mentioned any excessive speed and on the first page if i'm not mistaken it was cleared up exactly what happened.
If I'm not mistaken, he decided that it would be a good idea to let an inexperienced teenage driver pilot a 300 HP Miata with a twitchy clutch and running on tires which I know from experience to inspire false confidence right up until their limit of adhesion, on one of the more treacherous pieces of road in the continental US.

I know that this is an emotional thing for some folks, but I don't think it's unreasonable to characterize this accident as having been, to some extent, not unforeseeable. Most of us survive the learning of this lesson, while an unfortunate few do not.
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You are mistaken, it was a very slow paced Sunday drive type of drive. This was a fluke accident. No more foreseeable than the next bolt of lightning.
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You are mistaken, it was a very slow paced Sunday drive type of drive.
I don't want this to devolve into an argument, so I'll just point out that I never said anything about speed, pace, aggression, etc., and I somewhat resent you inference to the contrary. I merely pointed out that the accident occurred while a young, inexperienced driver was behind the wheel of an extremely powerful and twitchy car bordering on race-prepared, and driving on a road which is famously known to be challenging and dangerous.


None of these facts are in dispute.
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You are mistaken, it was a very slow paced Sunday drive type of drive. This was a fluke accident. No more foreseeable than the next bolt of lightning.
We don't have to be black and white about this.

We can recognize that the pace may well have been slow and relaxed, well within the safe limits.

We can also recognize that putting an inexperienced driver in a very high performance car on a challenging road for the purpose of learning fairly demanding driving techniques may not be the most prudent choice.
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