New mustang: even more slab-sided and small-windowed
 

Will that trend reverse already? Not that I'm a fan of the car, but ugh.

https://www.miataturbo.net/attachmen...ine=1386343182

I don't like.
I do like the '10 to current...I'd own 1. I'm still not a fan of OHC in a V8 though...

I think it's an improvement.

Greenhouse/roofline looks like Accord Coupe.

So far, I like it.

Yeah, i don't like progress and clear technology improvements, either.

I hate to say it but the rear quarter/trunk reminds me of one of those terrible Monte Carlos. Overall I like it though.

https://www.miataturbo.net/attachmen...ine=1386345016

300hp turbo 4 cylinder.

Ford dissects the heart of the 2015 Mustang, its engine range - Autoblog

Yes please.


Big up's to Ford, i've been seeing a ton of these driving around in camo. My dad says he has one where he works, in Dearborn... Getting an "upgrade".

I figured they were trying to make it look more like a BRZ/Genesis to compete.

I generally like the design, but I HATE the rear. It's got a really ugly ass.

Finally a decent interior however.

This will require repeal of certain safety standard laws...

-400 lbs, 400+hp, IRS. I like it. Looks are pretty good too, though I agree the rear end kills it.

I like it. Unlike the Camaro, which looks squashed.

Glass is heavy. So, smaller windows means lighter. Also, smaller openings is better from the structural engineering point of view. Add to the fact that glass is not getting much cheaper. The only way to cut cost is by using smaller panels.

Remember, cutting $.50 per car is a huge savings to car companies. That can pay the salary of an engineer to further cut costs.

Its whatever. I didnt by my '11 Mustang because of what it looks like.

Im interested in the 4 cylinder turbo version of the '15. If the price is right I would trade in my 5.0 for the boost.

EDIT:
Sweet bay jesus. I hope this part will be compatible with the 11-14 cars.

It is gaining weight, not losing it. It is a disappointment in every way to me.

Rumored to be in the neighborhood of 3300 pounds. It has lost significant weight from previous generations according to that. Not 400 pounds, but still significant. We will see what it ACTUALLY weighs.

I hadn't noticed the slab-sidedness before but I don't think it's near as bad as the Camaro or challenger. Still prefer the glass-to-body ratio of the current gen though, but everything else on the new car is better.

I'd drive it. Give me the V8 though, I don't want the turbo-4. It'll claim high MPG and get low MPG.

Could be worse
https://www.miataturbo.net/attachmen...ine=1386378527
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I might not love the styling of the rear of the 'Vette but what an awesome car. Really. Just incredible. Do want.

I just read Edmunds and they claim it will add weight. It is no smaller than the current car and the only weight saving they announced was aluminum fenders instead of steel.
I still think it is ridiculously ugly, so whatever.

everywhere I read says it will lose weight.

^yup

not even close.

I would say it looks more like the '69 mustang rear end coupled with the existing. saying that im looking at the rear 1/4 window and rear 1/4.

Yeah. Ford was pretty explicit in their plans to lose weight and add IRS.
The current s197 is the best handling Mustang to date, and Im sure this gen will be ever better.

These numbers are making me sad that mazda is partnered with Fiat for the ND.

Also disappointed to hear it is the same size as the current gen mustang. Was hoping for BRZ size.

...Hoping for BRZ size? That was NEVER gonna happen.

I was kinda hoping it would shrink too, but as long as it drops weight who cares. Weight>size

I like it.

That thing looks fucking hideous. How can you people like that mess?

They don't have your weird taste in cars?

https://www.miataturbo.net/attachmen...ine=1386465328

looks great to me

^hadn't seen that photo before. Love it. I feel like it's a good balance between muscular and sleek, and I really like that it has styling cues from older mustangs without going retro.

They don't? :dunno: What site are we on again?

That angle isn't as bad, but it's still not a pretty car to me. Too busy, too many intersecting angles, too much of a mix of different shapes. Sharp curves, gentle sweeping curves, sharp angles, blunt angles. And those headlights... Might as well call it a Taurus Sport Coupe. Hideous may have been overstating my dislike of the car, but I have seen better Mustangs, like the current model.

Yeah good comeback. F those ford junks. LS motors forever!!!

I have his weird taste too...looks like shit. Honestly I feel the mustang skips a generation for me to like it. 65-66 fastback, hottest mustang ever. 67-68, decent. 69-70 (fastback) awesome, 71- whenever...absolutely hideous. 70 whenever cobra II, awesome. 79-85? Hideous. 86?-93, decent. 94-98, garbage. 99-04, decent. 05-09, no thanks. '10- current, yes please!

I'm not about to go out and buy one cause I'm in love with it, but to call it hideous is just plain ignorant. Also I feel like some of "you people" absolutely hate literally 99.99% of the cars coming out today. Its like a bunch of grumpy old farts, everything used to be better "back in the day".

And while I have a tendency to want to live in the past just like you, I at least attempt to embrace the future. The fact that this thing is not ugly, some would even say its nice looking, and has a bunch of new (for that car) technology, and is lighter, and better interior, and should do everything better than the previous model....well that's pretty cool to me

Just sayin.

How the fuck is personal taste ignorant? The age of the car has nothing to do with it. Every decade has had plenty of butt ugly cars.

Have you bumped your head really hard lately? Your posts have been sounding increasingly retarded lately.

:greddy2:

I'm the same way. Especially with the last 4 or 5 revisions to body design.

Needs a more original twist. Looks like a brz/ genesis. Just like the new vette, looks like a gtr/ viper. Come up with a design that makes me say "whatever that car is...is awesome".

I'm growing to like the Aston Martin ish route Ford is going with their front ends.

I know it's a lot to ask, but they COULD go with a Ford ish look, and do something original, instead of taking bits and pieces from other current cars.

I like it.

If you want to talk about a car thats been ruined, go look up a 2015 WRX.

Not even wasting time on a long reply to this.
You're right. The mustang should not look like a mustang. It should look like something we've never seen before, or a Ford, whatever that means. :jerkit:

Now there's something I agree with:giggle:

Although I think the front end is not bad, and interior is great. The side/rear and the wheels are just terrible. Very sad indeed

Not a big fan of the wheels. They're a little busy for my taste.

I had a '89, with the "turbine" wheels. A real bitch to clean those things. Simple is better in my opinion.

I saw one on the freeway and if I didn't know what the 2015 WRX looked like from behind, I would have thought I was looking at a Camry. I agree with the front end...sort of. Nose seems a bit too long.

Not sure what it was doing out on the streets though.

The front of the new WRX is so ugly that I like it.

The back is just plain ugly.

:cry:

It means too many newer cars are stealing looks from one another, and it's boring.

I don't really see where you are getting that the Mustang is copying other cars. It doesn't have the Aston grille like the fusion. It has muscular, continuous lines. The only intersecting lines I see are on the front end.

New WRX... Just pisses me off that they dumped the hatch. It's finally going to get decent fuel economy and now it's not made in a worthwhile body style. Sedan FTL.

I guess it's just my general dislike of the look of newer cars. I hated most 80's cars because of their boxy design, the 90's had a general look that I liked, the 00's not so much like, and it's looking like the 10's I like even less. I guess it's a decades look.

That silver image, I see a BRZ roofline, fusion/taurus front clip, and a charger rear 1/4 panel. Too many lines and contours.

And you're getting upset that I called your opinion ignorant?
It wasn't a personal attack, but when someone says "every car (or just about) from this or that era is terrible....." I mean how could anyone take you seriously at all?

Again, you must have injured your brain in some way. I used words like general and most, and I didn't say they were terrible, I said that I generally disliked newer cars and cars from the 80's and 00's, but liked the 90's. I guess not agreeing with the masses somehow makes me ignorant in your weird mind. And you can't even quote me accurately from one post prior.

lol keep insulting me, its definitely working I'm crying over here.

I don't care about the new mustang enough to bicker with someone like you about it for pages so I'll stop. Its just funny because I consider myself super conservative and an "old man" despite being late 20's early 30's, and then see posts like yours that are so much worse that I feel like a liberal.

Thanks for the LOLs

Okay, you're stupid. Cry! CRY!

But why not? It's fun isn't it? Didn't know being conservative and liberal applied to liking or disliking cars.

Seriously though, I didn't mean any insult, I was just trying to push your buttons a bit. Hopefully you aren't really THAT thinly skinned.

Kiss and make up? :makeout:

lol no harm dude

I just find myself really impressed that they're finally making progress by doing DI, IRS, and losing weight, making it lower and wider, and still pretty decent looking. Those are all things I've been griping about with the mustang and they're all finally getting addressed, at least to some degree. Also an ecoboost version will be pretty sweet for those of us that love b00st

I can see myself possibly owning one of these bad boys if it lives up to the claims and the hype :)

*edit: feel free to bash how badly subaru botched the new wrx though. I'll gladly agree. I'm so furious with the sides/rear of it and no hatch variant

It's not as bad as I was making it out to be honestly. I still don't think it's all that great, but it's... meh. I'd drive it if someone gave it to me, but I sure as hell wouldn't buy one.

The WRX has been in decline since the change over in '07-'08. I've never liked any of the newer styling. Some of them have been pretty downright ugly.

https://www.miataturbo.net/attachmen...ine=1386544644

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https://www.miataturbo.net/attachmen...ine=1386547546

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Also, who are the trying to fool with that shit excuse for a diffuser (both WRX and Moostang). This is embarrassing.

http://image.motortrend.com/f/wot/13...ear-view-2.jpg

OEM rice is getting worse and worse.

When I bought my Mustang I bought the only V8 car on the lot to not have the factory "hood scoop":
http://po.b5z.net/i/u/2155674/i/HS-03_ezr2.JPG

You did notice how it says "WRX Concept" on the back of that car, right? That's not the production model.

Yeah, the production wrx rear is way worse lol

I did not notice that, no.

I still say OEM rice is out of control. Especially with domestics.

If a subtle rear "diffuser" is the only rice thing on this car I think I can live with that. really stupid that they painted it body color, but that aint nothing some plastidip can't fix

Ha... True. :giggle:

https://www.miataturbo.net/attachmen...ine=1386548644

https://www.miataturbo.net/attachmen...ine=1386548644

I don't mind this too much though. Not great but not terrible IMO. I'd drive it in a hatch.

https://www.miataturbo.net/attachmen...ine=1386548644


This, on the other hand, I really like.

https://www.miataturbo.net/attachmen...ine=1386548644

Bring back my beloved 90's styling!

https://www.miataturbo.net/attachmen...ine=1386550196

And I hate OEM ricery because it's mostly non functional, and I find function attractive on cars, usually. So it's sort of an insult or a spit in the face when they put a non functional hood scoop and a big cheesy looking diffuser on the car if it does nothing. It used to be, if you had a scoop, it guided air somewhere...

What about all the non turbo subaru's from that era that still had a hood scoop that was completely pointless? :giggle:

I do love the 22b though. With a passion

Did they? I know starting with the bug eye they didn't have a scoop for the non turbo models. Wasn't aware that those did.