NJ driver's GF liable because she texted him?
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Oh forget it.
I'm going to go cut all of my brake brackets in half to reduce the amount of aluminum used. I don't give a ---- that it will make them all less safe, because I am a company and I deserve maximum profitability regardless of the potential harm to human life.
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I'm going to go cut all of my brake brackets in half to reduce the amount of aluminum used. I don't give a ---- that it will make them all less safe, because I am a company and I deserve maximum profitability regardless of the potential harm to human life.
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Jury agreed and held her 20% responsible for her injuries. If she had done the exact same thing with 150*F coffee, she would have gotten what was coming to her - a little minor burning.
Because McDonalds decided to brew the coffee 40*F above industry standards, she had to get skin grafts.
Because McDonalds decided to brew the coffee 40*F above industry standards, she had to get skin grafts.
I get it, the coffee was too hot; she still introduced the vulnerability by holding it with her knees. If I take my gun and shoot it with my toes, Smith & Wesson are not liable for me mishandling my gun.
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Oh forget it.
I'm going to go cut all of my brake brackets in half to reduce the amount of aluminum used. I don't give a ---- that it will make them all less safe, because I am a company and I deserve maximum profitability regardless of the potential harm to human life.
has never been more accurate.
I'm going to go cut all of my brake brackets in half to reduce the amount of aluminum used. I don't give a ---- that it will make them all less safe, because I am a company and I deserve maximum profitability regardless of the potential harm to human life.
has never been more accurate.
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I bet you think Ford Pinto drivers were completely responsible for their actions too, right? I mean, they were the ones driving the cars - it certainly wasn't Ford's fault for making a car that wasn't up to industry standards.
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Nobody is willing to take any personal responsibility anymore, Jesus H Christ on Crutches. Spill ANY hot liquid > 98 degrees F on your crotch and expect it might be ------- hot, whether it's 99 degrees of 10,000 degrees! No, McNasties shouldn't have had their coffee so hot, but god dammit...
If served at a reasonable temperature, the injury wouldn't have been as extensive as it was. Mcdonalds wouldn't have been liable because a reasonable person would expect a certain degree of injury from a 135* cup of coffee. Now add in the fact that it is a 190* cup of coffee and the physical damage is X% more than expected by a reasonable person. This is where the liability comes in. If it was 135*, then it would all fall on her, but the temperature served was grossly negligent.
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I really like that last line. They shouldn't be doing something, but shouldn't be responsible for doing it as well.
If served at a reasonable temperature, the injury wouldn't have been as extensive as it was. Mcdonalds wouldn't have been liable because a reasonable person would expect a certain degree of injury from a 135* cup of coffee. Now add in the fact that it is a 190* cup of coffee and the physical damage is X% more expected by a reasonable person. This is where the liability comes in. If it was 135*, then it would all fall on her, but the temperature served was grossly negligent.
If served at a reasonable temperature, the injury wouldn't have been as extensive as it was. Mcdonalds wouldn't have been liable because a reasonable person would expect a certain degree of injury from a 135* cup of coffee. Now add in the fact that it is a 190* cup of coffee and the physical damage is X% more expected by a reasonable person. This is where the liability comes in. If it was 135*, then it would all fall on her, but the temperature served was grossly negligent.
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They brewed it hot because you get more coffee per bean that way. It was 100% profit driven, and they did not care in the slightest that people were regularly getting burned.
I cannot fathom how you can know the facts of that case and still think that McDonalds did nothing wrong.
I cannot fathom how you can know the facts of that case and still think that McDonalds did nothing wrong.
Trey's S&W reference was the same god damn thing. You buy an item from a company and the responsibility of use is on you. If YOUR company sold me a turbo kit, I installed it then immediately blew my motor up because the turbo was capable of cramming more air into my motor than it could physically handle, does that make YOU liable for the damages??? NO! IT'S THE SAME GOD DAMN THING!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Yeah, McDonalds is guilty. They're guilty of existing to make a profit, because I guess that's just wrong now. Do you give all the money your company makes away to people who don't deserve it?
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http://www.people.com/people/article/0,,616503,00.html
This dude cranked up the hot water and burned his genitals in the shower. The shower can make water really hot, the dude tested the water temp with his genitals (possibly the most brilliant idea I've heard in my life), and by California standards the landlord should have been responsible because he adjusted the water heater to an unsafe range.
This dude cranked up the hot water and burned his genitals in the shower. The shower can make water really hot, the dude tested the water temp with his genitals (possibly the most brilliant idea I've heard in my life), and by California standards the landlord should have been responsible because he adjusted the water heater to an unsafe range.
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The reasonable expectation for coffee is to get it at around 135*, which would not cause the need to skin graphs if spilled. The party that brought the possibility of the injury into the case was negligent in making sure both parties knew the severity of possible consequences due to the vast difference in perceived and actual risks.
It's like giving the snake handler a corral snake from the bin after he has been handling rat snakes all day and that is what he thinks he is working with. You take a different approach to things when you know the risks are higher if something does go wrong.
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This dude cranked up the hot water and burned his genitals in the shower. The shower can make water really hot, the dude tested the water temp with his genitals (possibly the most brilliant idea I've heard in my life), and by California standards the landlord should have been responsible because he adjusted the water heater to an unsafe range.
This dude cranked up the hot water and burned his genitals in the shower. The shower can make water really hot, the dude tested the water temp with his genitals (possibly the most brilliant idea I've heard in my life), and by California standards the landlord should have been responsible because he adjusted the water heater to an unsafe range.
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http://www.people.com/people/article/0,,616503,00.html
This dude cranked up the hot water and burned his genitals in the shower. The shower can make water really hot, the dude tested the water temp with his genitals (possibly the most brilliant idea I've heard in my life), and by California standards the landlord should have been responsible because he adjusted the water heater to an unsafe range.
This dude cranked up the hot water and burned his genitals in the shower. The shower can make water really hot, the dude tested the water temp with his genitals (possibly the most brilliant idea I've heard in my life), and by California standards the landlord should have been responsible because he adjusted the water heater to an unsafe range.
The difference is what a reasonable person expects.
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It's not the same thing, dude. A reasonable person will expect scalding hot water from the tap if they crank up the heat all the way. A reasonable person DOES NOT expect the coffee they are served to cause 3rd degree burns in under 10 seconds if they spill it on themselves.
The difference is what a reasonable person expects.
The difference is what a reasonable person expects.