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Old 12-12-2011, 03:14 PM   #1
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  • Financier David Shaw has raised $1.08 million for Obama’s reelection so far. Shaw’s firm D.E. Shaw is heavily invested in two wind projects that received taxpayer money: $115 million for First Wind, and $117 million for Kahuku Wind.
  • Financier John Rogers is a board Exelon board member has raised $1.2 million, and Frank Clark, an executive Exelon, has raised $153,000 thus far. Exelon has been approved for $646 million in Department of Energy loan guarantees for a project called AV Solar Ranch One. They also received a $200 million Department of Energy cash grant through a company they own called Peco Energy for smart-grid work.
  • Financier Steve Westly has raised $302,000 so far. Westly has held large investment stakes in numerous companies that have received stimulus grants, including Amyris Biotechnologies ($24 million), Tesla Motors ($465 million), as well as Edeniqu and Recyclebank.
  • Bruce Heyman of Goldman Sachs, who has had three energy projects approved for taxpayer money Cogentrix ($90 million), First Solar ($4.7 million), and U.S. Geothermal ($96.8 million) has already raised $366,884 for the Obama 2012 reelection campaign.
  • Daniel Weiss of the Angelino Group has raised $39,000 so far. Weiss’ firm is a major equity holder in Powerspan, we received a $100 million cash grant for smart grid projects.
  • Steve Spinner has raised $31,900 to this point. Spinner is a green energy investor who worked at the Department of Energy as a “strategic advisor” to the loan program.
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Old 12-12-2011, 03:30 PM   #2
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Obama, he cares about the middle class and busting up the obscenely rich.
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Last year's Supreme Court decision has made it open season in campaign finance.
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Sooo....

You've just discovered that politicians do favors to their contributors Brainy?
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Old 12-12-2011, 04:48 PM   #5
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I knew it in high school when I created such classics in my punk rock band like "Why can't the government get a job" or "politically fucked"

But there's something amiss when 80% of DoE loans go to compaign contributors. Youre only going to be able to hide behind GR$$N for so long, and two bankrupt companies doesn't help.
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I knew it in high school when I created such classics in my punk rock band like "Why can't the government get a job" or "politically fucked"

But there's something amiss when 80% of DoE loans go to compaign contributors. Youre only going to be able to hide behind GR$$N for so long, and two bankrupt companies doesn't help.
I can start linking this crap from Bush Jr/Sr, Clinton, hell, even Reagan.

I agree with you that there's something wrong - but what is it you propose to do about it? It seems to be a hard-coded part of our political system. Politicians give bribes back to the people who bribed them in an effort to keep the bribers bribing the politician.
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Old 12-12-2011, 04:52 PM   #7
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elect ron paul? go back in time and do things differently in 1911, or the 30s? post on miata forums?
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Old 12-12-2011, 04:54 PM   #8
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You've got my support on motherfuckin' Ron Paul yo.

I've been trying to get as many people as I can IRL to vote for the guy in the republican primary and write him in in the actual election even.
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Old 12-12-2011, 04:55 PM   #9
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it wont happen until the media will acknowledge his exsistence.
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it wont happen until the media will acknowledge his exsistence.
Why do you think the media won't acknowledge his existence?
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Old 12-12-2011, 05:29 PM   #11
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haters gonna hate.
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But there's something amiss when 80% of DoE loans go to compaign contributors.
Is that an actual stat from somewhere (your bum not included)? If so, source? I'd like to look at the data a little closer.

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I can start linking this crap from Bush Jr/Sr, Clinton, hell, even Reagan.
Can you? I would be interested to see that, plus the same kind of info for the candidates with congressional or gubernatorial experience.
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http://www.americanprogress.org/issu...06/b84766.html is a big one, Scrappy, and there is a **** ton out there - enough that I just go >< at the mere thought of trying to compile a list.
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Old 12-12-2011, 07:01 PM   #14
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Is that an actual stat from somewhere (your bum not included)? If so, source? I'd like to look at the data a little closer.
It was just published in a new book "throw them all out", this book was also responsible for outing all the inside trader business thats in the news right now. but no one cares about the other stories.

http://www.docstoc.com/docs/10345944...ters-fixed-pdf

http://junkscience.com/2011/11/14/ne...-contributors/

http://blog.heritage.org/2011/11/14/...obama-backers/
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Youre only going to be able to hide behind GR$$N for so long, and two bankrupt companies doesn't help.
so long as the average joe doesnt give a ****
they can all hide behind it forever
everyone says "we gotta vote for the better of two evils" or "politics are corrupt" or some lame *** stuff like that

most people dont take it any further that saying a sentence or two
most dont care to learn the details

**** will always be fucked until that changes
or until the people who dont research their candidates and vote based on comercials stop voting
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Old 12-14-2011, 09:47 AM   #16
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there goes 99% of the vote.
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Old 12-14-2011, 10:38 AM   #17
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It was just published in a new book "throw them all out", this book was also responsible for outing all the inside trader business thats in the news right now.
You reading it? I've looked at it a few times but haven't stopped to really read it.
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I've read bits and pieces out of it, I follow his blog posts mostly which just reguritate everything published in his book.
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