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mueller has a personal vendetta against non-child molestors.
Robert Mueller’s name appears on the agreement in his capacity as U.S. Attorney, as well as on the original indictment. He would have been responsible for signing off on the deal, which is remarkably favorable given the quantity of material discovered in the reclusive Asimov’s Sonoma County home. Since summaries of these court documents appeared online, people have been asking just how responsible Mueller was for the terms.
Despite possessing thousands of images of underage children, David Asimov pled guilty to just two counts of possessing illegal images and received no jail time. Instead, he was given probation, told not to drink alcohol, and asked to pay a $200 fine.
David Asimov’s punishment for amassing a vast child **** library.
In addition to videotapes and floppy disks, Asimov was found in possession of a Danish magazine called Lollipops 2, a German magazine called Torrid Teens and a publication by Potomic News Co., Washington, D.C., titled The Boys of Times Square, each of which contained images of child pornography.
The unemployed Asimov’s crimes were discovered when a computer repair technician noticed the images on a machine brought in for repair. Asimov’s lawyer Chris Andrian insisted Asimov was “not a predator,” describing him as “an acutely intelligent guy who wouldn’t hurt a flea. . . . He hasn’t got the social grace or skills of one who would try subtly to lure a kid into his house.”
Serious question: How is the fact that Mueller did a poor job of organizing the prosecution of a child pornographer and wound up having to cop a plea deal in any way relevant to the merits and validity of an investigation into the President's relationship with a foreign intelligence apparatus?
I keep waiting for, like, one single thing which competently suggests that the investigation is improper, and all I'm getting is butthurt reactions from Trump fanbois.
China is rolling out a high-tech plan to give all of its 1.4 billion citizens a personal score, based on how they behave.
But there are consequences if a score gets too low, and for some that’s cause for concern...
...When Liu Hu recently tried to book a flight, he was told he was banned from flying because he was on the list of untrustworthy people. Liu is a journalist who was ordered by a court to apologize for a series of tweets he wrote and was then told his apology was insincere.
Paul Manafort, Donald Trump's former campaign chairman, has been found guilty on five counts of tax fraud, one count of failing to disclose his foreign bank accounts and two counts of bank fraud.
The jury was unable to reach consensus on 10 of the 18 counts in the bank fraud trial of former Trump campaign chairman Paul Manafort. Judge T.S. Ellis III will declare a mistrial on the 10 unresolved counts but is accepting the jury's verdict on the remaining eight counts. Ellis decided there was "manifest necessity" to proceed.
Donald Trump's former personal lawyer and "fixer," Michael Cohen, has pleaded guilty to charges including campaign finance fraud stemming from hush money payments to **** actress Stormy Daniels and ex-Playboy model Karen McDougal.
The 51-year-old Cohen said in federal court in New York on Tuesday that he made the payments in coordination with Trump, who wasn't named, to influence the election. Both women claimed Trump had affairs with them, which he denies.
The other charges Cohen pleaded guilty to involve bank fraud and income tax evasion. As part of his plea agreement, Cohen agreed not to challenge any sentence from 46 to 63 months.
Cohen's plea follows months of federal scrutiny and a falling out with the president, whom he previously said he'd "take a bullet" for.
Mueller still has not found any Russian Collusion; only witches.
Nobody is / was accusing Paul Manafort of colluding with Russia, only bank fraud, tax evasion, money laundering, conspiracy, witness tampering, obstruction of justice, and perjury.
Oh, and failing to register as a foreign agent, which I guess could maybe be considered collusion, in that he steered foreign money into US-based lobbies and campaigns and has admitted to working as an agent of a pro-Russian political party in Ukraine, for which he was paid a total of $12.7 million. He hasn't gone to trial for that one yet. And, technically, while Ukraine used to be part of the Soviet Union, it is now merely an economic and military partner of Russia, not actually a part of it.
If you're referring to the President, that was last week. This week he's being accused of violating campaign finance laws. Gotta keep up.
Actual photo of Paul Manafort (on right) during the reading of the verdict earlier today:
Last edited by Joe Perez; 08-21-2018 at 09:25 PM.
Reason: schpelling
The entire investigation is based on the the "fact" that trump colluded with Russia to influence the election.
Actually, that's only one of the five major elements of the current investigation. But, regardless, at this point we have some pretty strong evidence (and an indictment) to suggest that Trump's campaign manager colluded with a former Soviet state with close economic ties to Russia, to channel money from a Ukrainian political party into US lobbying and campaign efforts. To me, it doesn't seem like a witch-hunt to want to learn more about that.
We'll know more after Manafort goes to trial for that charge in DC, which should happen later this year.
This is way more fun than Watergate.
Originally Posted by Braineack
The only thing we've learned here is never to talk to the feds,
Which, really, is good advice in general.
Actual photo of Braineack (at left) denying that witches influenced the 2016 US presidential election:
I honestly thought that lib-dems and Braineack were the only ones rallying around the whole "Freedom is Slavery, Ignorance is Strength" thing in a non-ironic way. Now we have big-name mainstream republicans claiming that truth isn't true.
EDIT: And I'm kind of an authority on the subject of truth. See my avatar for proof.
Giuliani tries to explain what he meant by ‘truth isn’t truth’
By John Wagner, Reporter
August 20 at 10:51 AM
Rudolph W. Giuliani, a lawyer for President Trump, speaks during a campaign event for a congressional candidate in New Hampshire. (Charles Krupa/AP)
President Trump’s lawyer Rudolph W. Giuliani on Monday sought to clarify his head-scratching assertion over the weekend that “truth isn’t truth,” writing in a morning tweet that he was referring to instances where two people make contradictory statements.
“My statement was not meant as a pontification on moral theology but one referring to the situation where two people make precisely contradictory statements, the classic ‘he said she said’ puzzle,” Giuliani said. “Sometimes further inquiry can reveal the truth other times it doesn’t.”
Giuliani’s attempt at clarification was prompted by an appearance Sunday on NBC’s “Meet the Press,” during which he and host Chuck Todd discussed the circumstances under which Trump would submit to an interview by special counsel Robert S. Mueller III.
Giuliani continued to argue that Mueller is trying to trap Trump into committing perjury as part of an investigation into whether the president has obstructed the probe of Russian interference in the 2016 presidential election.
“When you tell me that [Trump] should testify because he’s going to tell the truth and he shouldn’t worry, that’s so silly — because it’s somebody’s version of the truth. Not the truth,” Giuliani said.
Todd responded, “Truth is truth.”
“No, it isn’t truth. Truth isn’t truth,” Giuliani said.
The exchange was heavily featured on Monday morning news shows, with pundits comparing Giuliani’s assertion with White House adviser Kellyanne Conway saying earlier during Trump’s tenure that then-press secretary Sean Spicer had presented “alternative facts.”
Giuliani has said he fears Mueller would be more inclined to rely on testimony provided by former FBI director James B. Comey, whom Trump fired, than that of the president. If so, Giuliani has said, Trump could be accused of perjury even if he’s telling the truth.
Following Giuliani’s Sunday appearance on “Meet the Press,” Comey took to Twitter, writing: “Truth exists and truth matters.”
“Truth has always been the touchstone of our country’s justice system and political life,” Comey said. “ People who lie are held accountable. If we are untethered to truth, our justice system cannot function and a society based on the rule of law dissolves.”
On Monday, Giuliani responded to Comey.
“Since proven leaker Comey is now sanctimoniously lecturing us on truth, I can say sometimes the truth is clear it’s the opposite of what Jim Coney is saying,” Giuliani wrote on Twitter. “His disgraceful performance with the FBI makes him the last person who should pontificate on truth.”
Meanwhile, in New York, Mr Trump’s former lawyer Michael Cohen pleaded guilty to eight counts of his own, including campaign finance violations ahead of the 2016 presidential election as part of a plea deal with federal prosecutors.
Mr Cohen, one of Mr Trump’s closest associates for more than a decade, said he arranged to make payments “for [the] principal purpose of influencing the election” at the direction of a “candidate” for federal office. He did not give the candidate’s name, although he was working for Mr Trump at the time.
Mr Cohen, one of Mr Trump’s closest associates for more than a decade, said he arranged to make payments “for [the] principal purpose of influencing the election” at the direction of a “candidate” for federal office. He did not give the candidate’s name, although he was working for Mr Trump at the time.
There still really isn't anything to see here. He made a plea deal after the jury came back with only a few of the convictions the gov't wanted. The gov't rolled this into his plea so is sorta looked like the were investigating Russia and not witches.
Any other person being accused of this sort of campaign finance violation would have been slapped with a few thousand dollar fine as per the FEC Civil Penalties for Violations of Federal Election Laws.
The rest of his actual convictions stem from his tax evasion -- which all news is glossing over because: **** Trummpffff
Why is paying for a smear ad against your opponent, which influences the election, is not: trying to influence the election. But paying someone not to smear yourself is?
At the end of the day, all this really proves is Trump hired a shitty lawyer.
The gov't rolled this into his plea so is sorta looked like the were investigating Russia and not witches.
Serious question: have you been paying attention?
Yesterday's conviction was merely for Manafort's various financial frauds, not for the big stuff.
The prosecution of Trump's campaign manager's activities as an agent of the Ukraine is a separate trial, which will occur later in the year in the US District Court for the DC (U.S. v. Manafort, 17-cr-201.)
I'm confused by the "Ukraine as a military partner with Russia...", they aren't exactly on friendly terms last I checked? Or is this timeline referencing older politicians/times when they were?
you've changed characters, Joe. Cohen and Manafort are two different people. Cohen plead guilty to 8 out of 18 charges AFTER the jury came back with their decision as part of a plea deal. He was the only person you were referencing in post 11996 and that i directly quoted.
Manafort could be tried as a foreign agent trying to infiltrate our government, but that's doesn't fit the narrative.
And I dont understand what hole you think I'm digging. I'm just looking at it all objectively -- without all the CNN bias.
But lest us never forget Flynn. Who, if you remember, is the most important news story of 2017.
you've changed characters, Joe. Cohen and Manafort are two different people. Cohen plead guilty to 8 out of 18 charges AFTER the jury came back with their decision as part of a plea deal.
The Mueller Probe is an investigation into the activities of the President and his associates. Cohen was the president's lawyer, and Manafort was the president's campaign manager, during the time when the crimes were comitted. Both are relevant to the investigation which you keep dismissing as a witch-hunt. Thus far, it has found and convicted two witches.
Originally Posted by Braineack
Manafort could be tried as a foreign agent trying to infiltrate our government, but that's doesn't fit the narrative.
I don't think there's any "could" about it. He has already been indicted on this charge, and I posted the court docket in my last message.
Originally Posted by Braineack
But lest us never forget Flynn. Who, if you remember, is the most important news story of 2017.
I don't know why you keep dragging Flynn into this. Not being sarcastic (well, the image to follow is), but in all seriousness apart from that, I really do not understand the relevance, nor why you seem to fascinated by him. In the grand scheme of things, Flynn is a very small fish.
08-20-2018, 03:12 PM
David Asimov’s punishment for amassing a vast child **** library.
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