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Old Jan 16, 2011 | 05:14 PM
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Good point. I was thinking specifically of gun violence (comparing nations in which firearms are socially acceptable and easily accessible to the masses vs. those where firearms are more of a taboo) but you're quite right of course in that if somebody wants to kill a bunch of people badly enough, they will find some suitable instrument with which to do it.

Of course, there's a world of difference between the one loony out of a million who walks into a building and starts killing everything that moves vs. the somewhat more pedestrian individual who shoots one or two specific people (usually not with an assault rifle) as retribution for some specific offense.

I'm honestly a bit surprised that nobody has jumped in with the example of Canada. In most regards (at least, amongst those individuals who I know personally) Canadians and Canadian society seem to be very closely attuned, morally and politically, to the US.

I can't seem to recall any mass killing sprees of late taking place in America's Hat, however one paper which I located on the subject noted that "In 2002 there were 149 gun murders in Canada, in the United States, there were 10,800." (source)

Of course, the population of the US is approximately nine times that of Canada (307,000,000 vs. 33,700,000) so if we were to multiply up the population of Canada to match that of the US, the number of gun-related homicides would rise to 1,357, which is still only 12.5%. Is this attributable only to Canada's rather stricter laws concerning gun ownership, or is it due to some other combination of social and environmental factors? Does Canada not have the same wanna-be gangsters as we do in some cities in the US who go around popping one another freely as retribution for drug-related affronts, sleeping with one another's shorties, dissing each other, etc?
Old Jan 16, 2011 | 10:54 PM
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Joe, murder is murder, and to restrict the data set to "gun murders" you are leaving out a whole lot of data.

But yes, there is a WHOLE LOT of gang violence in the US, mostly concentrated in large metropolitan areas. Matter of fact, most shootings are by people who aren't allowed to have a firearm by law, in areas (cities) where they are not allowed...

If you remove the banger on banger deaths from the total I bet the difference per capita of overall murders would be much smaller.
Old Jan 16, 2011 | 11:00 PM
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Originally Posted by Joe Perez
Would it have been better if this fellow had only been able to take down 6 or 8 folks before stopping to reload, or if he'd had to carry a second (or third, or fourth) weapon? You could outlaw semi-automatic firearms altogether, and the crazy ones will simply switch to revolvers. Two Colt Anacondas hold more ammo than one (formerly) illegal "Assault Rifle" and are much more easily concealable and maneuverable in close-quarters action.
See: "New York Reload"
Old Jan 17, 2011 | 11:37 AM
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Originally Posted by Joe Perez
Does Canada not have the same wanna-be gangsters as we do in some cities in the US who go around popping one another freely as retribution for drug-related affronts, sleeping with one another's shorties, dissing each other, etc?
That sounds about right, eh?
Old Jan 17, 2011 | 11:40 AM
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If you outlaw black people, will that fix the majority of crimes in America?


That's your logic Joe.


Why don't we outlaw Urban Environments? Those places breed murder.



This graph shows the homicide rate for America's three worst and five best ranking jurisdictions in 2004. I live in the safest county in the country because there are very few urban areas. Fairfax Co. even butts up against DC... and yet DC was the 3rd worst.



Conclusion: Outlaw Black People and large Metropolitan Cities.

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