Voter fraud
10-30-2012, 04:29 PM
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Sheep/Lemming... same difference. If your going to vote, at least have a reason other than 'a vote against Obama' - hell, you're in the South - play the South card and say "I ain't voting 'fer no 'black dude'" (of course you'd have to use the "N" word to be legit...)
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10-31-2012, 08:09 AM
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The system has you beat ... maaaaaan
That aside, I'd prefer Obama over Romney and since I live in MA, I can afford to 'waste' a vote (since Brobama will likely win the state). Voting for Johnson is really only an issue for you right-wingers in tightly contested states.
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10-31-2012, 08:20 AM
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I HATE obama. HATE him. I dispise him with every bone in my body.
I am a Republican, manly by my beliefs. At least I align closest to them in theory.
I LIKE Romney. Is he my first choice for President? No. Second? Third? One Hundredth? No. Of Course not.
If you line up all my choices for President there's Hundreds of other people, then Romney, then Hillary, then Obama.
But since my first-and-foremost want is to remove Obama from office, I'll vote FOR his opponent.
This doesn't mean the system got me. If I got an Obamaphone and therefore voted for Obama--then the system got me. Otherwise Romney will make a great President; he'll sign some laws that Congress puts on his desk, people will hate him for it, things wont change in the long run, and life goes on.
But I for one want to see Obama out of office, that would make me happy, and the ONLY person in the world that can do that right now is Mitt Romney. So why would I vote for Gary Johnson when in my state my vote might actually even count for something?
Does that mean I don't like Gary Johnson? No. I like him a lot. I align MUCH closer to him than Romney, and I did listen to his speech:
But sorry, Gary, I'm "wasting" my vote on Obama's opponent. We need to get the country back on it's feet before I can start to worry about getting the perfect President in office. It's too bad Ron Paul isn't as good as a public speaker as you, as I'd love to see him in office as well. Hopefully Rand will run one of these days because he has the look and can speak very well.
Asking me to vote for Gary, in VA, is like like handing Obama another four years in the White House in order to "send a message." To whom? And what message? That we're morons? Message received!
And Vehicular has a great grasp on the system contrary to your belief, thasac. He understands that the only vote against Obama is a vote for Romney. No other vote can get him out of office, which is what HE would prefer.
I am a Republican, manly by my beliefs. At least I align closest to them in theory.
I LIKE Romney. Is he my first choice for President? No. Second? Third? One Hundredth? No. Of Course not.
If you line up all my choices for President there's Hundreds of other people, then Romney, then Hillary, then Obama.
But since my first-and-foremost want is to remove Obama from office, I'll vote FOR his opponent.
This doesn't mean the system got me. If I got an Obamaphone and therefore voted for Obama--then the system got me. Otherwise Romney will make a great President; he'll sign some laws that Congress puts on his desk, people will hate him for it, things wont change in the long run, and life goes on.
But I for one want to see Obama out of office, that would make me happy, and the ONLY person in the world that can do that right now is Mitt Romney. So why would I vote for Gary Johnson when in my state my vote might actually even count for something?
Does that mean I don't like Gary Johnson? No. I like him a lot. I align MUCH closer to him than Romney, and I did listen to his speech:
But sorry, Gary, I'm "wasting" my vote on Obama's opponent. We need to get the country back on it's feet before I can start to worry about getting the perfect President in office. It's too bad Ron Paul isn't as good as a public speaker as you, as I'd love to see him in office as well. Hopefully Rand will run one of these days because he has the look and can speak very well.
Asking me to vote for Gary, in VA, is like like handing Obama another four years in the White House in order to "send a message." To whom? And what message? That we're morons? Message received!
And Vehicular has a great grasp on the system contrary to your belief, thasac. He understands that the only vote against Obama is a vote for Romney. No other vote can get him out of office, which is what HE would prefer.
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10-31-2012, 11:16 AM
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More voting machines that don't work correctly:
http://www.marionstar.com/article/20...nclick_check=1
http://www.marionstar.com/article/20...nclick_check=1
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10-31-2012, 11:27 AM
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And another thing about Gary Johnson, in the 2min clip above he talks about immigration being awesome and we should make it easier and everyone applauds.
The libertarian in me says, yes, open the borders, let anyone who wants to be a citizen a citizen.
the problem is our current welfare state. This cant happen. We'll have a huge swell in immigration for the free handouts, not the ecomonic opporutnity. It'll be a huge toll on the system: local and federal. The good does not outweigh the bad in the case. And as such, currently forgein nationals in the US are more likely to hold a job than natives, and less likely than low-income natives to be on the dull.
As opposed to European countries who lure poor migrants with generous benefits right off the bat...and the data shows they are less likely to be employed and are heavy users of welfare. And they are bleeding these countries dry and then protest and set things on fire when any auserity measures are ever enacted.
So on things like immigration, I'm much more skeptical and conservative than the typical libertarian. You'd need to "fundamentally change america" before you could allow the libertarian ideals, that I, myself, believe in, to run wild in the US.
The libertarian in me says, yes, open the borders, let anyone who wants to be a citizen a citizen.
the problem is our current welfare state. This cant happen. We'll have a huge swell in immigration for the free handouts, not the ecomonic opporutnity. It'll be a huge toll on the system: local and federal. The good does not outweigh the bad in the case. And as such, currently forgein nationals in the US are more likely to hold a job than natives, and less likely than low-income natives to be on the dull.
As opposed to European countries who lure poor migrants with generous benefits right off the bat...and the data shows they are less likely to be employed and are heavy users of welfare. And they are bleeding these countries dry and then protest and set things on fire when any auserity measures are ever enacted.
So on things like immigration, I'm much more skeptical and conservative than the typical libertarian. You'd need to "fundamentally change america" before you could allow the libertarian ideals, that I, myself, believe in, to run wild in the US.
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10-31-2012, 12:41 PM
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OMG, I just reread my post to make sure there wasn't any grammar mistakes left, and HOLY CRAP am I racist.
I can't believe you guys let me be admin. Did you read my post? I'm like advocating the Old Confederacy and talking about "returning to chains"
Disgraceful.
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