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Old 12-14-2011, 05:57 PM   #21
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You are not voting?
I am voting...

for Obama.
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Old 12-14-2011, 06:09 PM   #22
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for Obama.
So you're in favor of increasing the size of the government and less individual liberty?
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Old 12-14-2011, 06:14 PM   #23
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So you're in favor of increasing the size of the government and less individual liberty?
No, but he is the best choice of the options given. And I don't believe that Obama wants to take individual liberties away.
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You're adorable.
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Thanks, I think your... uh, nice.. too.

Can we at least agree that Romney and Gingrich are dumb as **** and should not be elected president? Or maybe we can say that about at least one of them?
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Gingrich isn't dumb, he's just scary. Romney might be dumb. But I wouldn't support either of them anyway, because both are essentially the same as Obama, that is to say, they represent a political view that is antithetical to my own. I feel no compulsion to be on the "winning team", so I'm not terribly concerned about whether anyone thinks I'm "wasting" a vote.
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No, but he is the best choice of the options given. And I don't believe that Obama wants to take individual liberties away.
This. Seriously, if anyone here can even seriously consider Gingrich over Obama for one second, you are either advocating for political policies you don't believe or are lyin' to yourself.
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Old 12-14-2011, 06:38 PM   #28
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This. Seriously, if anyone here can even seriously consider Gingrich over Obama for one second, you are either advocating for political policies you don't believe or are lyin' to yourself.
lol icwatudidther

I remember when I was a little kid, probably no older then 6 and my mom and dad toke me and my little bro up to DC to look at a museum or something, I don't remember the museum but I do remember a very large group of protesters yelling "GIVE NEWT THE BOOT, GIVE NEWT THE BOOT". Some 15 years later the man runs for office and all I can think is "GIVE NEWT THE BOOT".
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Old 12-14-2011, 06:50 PM   #29
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No, but he is the best choice of the options given. And I don't believe that Obama wants to take individual liberties away.
I am genuinely interested in how you come to those conclusions. Have you done some sort of a "pros/cons" checklist, compared the candidates stated stances and/or records of actions on various topics, etc? Or is it just "a feeling?"


For me, I am still struggling with whether or not I think Paul's economic policies would be harmful enough to outweigh the fact that I agree with him on virtually all of his other stances and consider him to be among the most principled politicians around. I am also not sure how well he could govern. I did vote for him in the 2008 primary.

I prefer Romney over Gingrich but am concerned with his connections to the FIRE industries. I also need to better digest his views on the role of Federal government. I feel like he has a better chance of being able to govern and is a better fit for the broadly center-right USA.

I am still having a hard time wrapping my head around Gingrich. He had some significant accomplishments and also significant mis-steps as the Speaker of the House. His career after politics seems to embody a lot of what I think is wrong with the current system.
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When I decide who I want to vote for in any election I look at the candidates beliefs on all the issues I can find and decide whether or not his or her beliefs are close enough to mine for my to vote for him/her. I place more importance on some issues then others, I look at the candidates religion, if her or she is a good speaker and if the candidate "acts like a leader" or not, among other things. I don't want a candidate who has extreem views, is more then moderately religious, lacks empathy, doesn't act like a leader, comes off as dumb, is so steadfast in his/her beliefs that he/she can not listen to a reasonable argument put forth by the other side, etc.

I believe Paul's economic plan could be harmful, I don't agree with Romney on many issues, (oddly it seems that this is a bigger issue then his Mormonism, which I haven't seem too much of), Gingrich doesn't seem electable even if I did like him as a candidate (Same w/ Paul). This leaves Obama as the lesser of the 4 evils. If it was 2008 and McCain didn't pick Palin as his running mate it might be a different story, Palin was a horrendous choice as VP.
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This leaves Obama as the lesser of the 4 evils.
That does not make sense to me but I think it is because something was left out.

On what do you agree with Obama?
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I assumed that was the "I like the way he talks" part of his presidential calculation.
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Oh noes, how DARE YOU link a self-identified socialist's speech!
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Ya Sen. Adolph Sanders. lol

Just watched the debates, just a bunch of babbling bullshit followed by an applause line.

"Blah blah economy blah blah taxes blah blah blah bring jobs to AMERICA!" woohooo we love this guy!
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Ron Paul right here.... if not... GOP. Sorry guys, East Tennesean first, Texan second, and they both vote the same.
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Same guy I've voted for in the last 2 elections, Ron Paul.
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Ya Sen. Adolph Sanders. lol

Just watched the debates, just a bunch of babbling bullshit followed by an applause line.

"Blah blah economy blah blah taxes blah blah blah bring jobs to AMERICA!" woohooo we love this guy!

never listened to him before, but yeah you nailed that video pretty well.

And why was his video labeled as amazing? I'll nutshell it. "the rich are getting richer, the poor are getting poorer." I haven't EVER heard that before.




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Rick Santorum

Obama is utterly useless. If you haven't figured that out yet "sheep" head to slaugter.

All other candidates are nothing more than life politicians. They won't change a damn thing either.
I've almost lost hope in all government. I will never loose hope in American people however.
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Rick Santorum lost before he started. People don't take him seriously as a candidate.
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