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Old 12-24-2012, 04:07 PM   #21
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I've spent about 1750 on my build and did it right. All SS lines, MS, etc. But here's the catch, I built my own manifold, DP and full exhaust. I used an $80 turbo from a WRX. I used the intercooler setup I had from my supercharger, and already had the MS, so those don't factor into the price. I also picked up some pretty good deals for my rx8 injectors and BOV. If you want a reliable setup, spend more money, or build stuff yourself.
Manifold, DP, and exhaust from ARTech are costing me ~$1400... Lol I wish I could weld!
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If I had not started with a shitty ebay mani/dp I would have been around $2300 for my build. As it was, I ended up at about $17-1800. But that was about 8 months of waiting with my finger on the button for deals to pop up, begging/borrowing/almost stealing, and a TON of R&D to make my screwy setup work. And did not include the clutch I needed 6 months later. Or predict that I am now running a completely different turbo/mani/dp than I originally was due solely to my initial cheapness.

If you are willing to put in the time doing that then go for it, just do it right. If not, and you want instant gratification, then add another grand to that budget.
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Old 12-24-2012, 06:54 PM   #23
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You could just go shanghai with a rrfpr for less than 2g's. Upgrading later will probably cost a bit more than just doing it right the first time, but trying to make more than 150-160whp will probably grenade your diff anyway so....
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I have a torsen diff in the garage and I plan to build my own make (I have built them before) done prior on this form seem to be talking to me as of I have no idea what is involved. I'm not looking to make anything crazy ill be happy with 180who just need enough to slide around some and get out of my own way.. If I really wasn't to rip up
Streets I Get in my mustang or on my zx10
I was thinking used mani and dp cheap turbo make Ebay intercooler and piping...and fm clutch aem wideband and ill build my own exhaust...not possible you say?
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I have a torsen diff in the garage and I plan to build my own make (I have built them before) done prior on this form seem to be talking to me as of I have no idea what is involved. I'm not looking to make anything crazy ill be happy with 180who just need enough to slide around some and get out of my own way.. If I really wasn't to rip up
Streets I Get in my mustang or on my zx10
I was thinking used mani and dp cheap turbo make Ebay intercooler and piping...and fm clutch aem wideband and ill build my own exhaust...not possible you say?
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Old 12-24-2012, 11:41 PM   #26
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Here's the plan:
1. Used greddy kit - $700ish
2. Torsen swap - $800ish
3. Clutch - $200
4. DIY intercooler - $200

Make 155whp reliably. Oh and do all the labour yourself.

And I regret going cheap on my first turbo build. Regret it so bad. Ended up replacing everything including the motor.
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Here's the plan:
1. Used greddy kit - $700ish
I regret going cheap on my first turbo build.
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Old 12-25-2012, 09:02 AM   #28
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sorry i started this thred i should haveknown better....i dont have a problem with using cheap parts to start questionable reliabilty on some things is ok for me i spend every weekend working on cars anyway and i dont drive the miata on far trips its just a weekend toy.... so im not one to spend big money on eveything top notch the first time because im scared of breaking things.
a cheap turbo system is better than no turbo system right? so ill peice somthing together..if i break the diff il just replace it with a torsen then. i dont think its unheard of for my vlsd to hold 160hp for a while and if i break that its not like the whole car blows up.
i must say im a little disapointed in how all on this forum seem to like to discourage people..i think i will just look for a used deal on the solid basics for good parts the rest can go cheap for future upgrade....i guess i was just bored and wanted some suport...wasnt looking for here is exsactly how its done answers...i understand i will need to sorce deals and fab things....just thought out of everone on this forum someone had a good sucsess story i could read about with a starter build...but i guess everone here has a budjet to throw $5k+ at a time into a car....im not about to sell my other cars or bike to fund this project and i got to start somewhere.....
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sorry i started this thred i should haveknown better....i dont have a problem with using cheap parts to start questionable reliabilty on some things is ok for me i spend every weekend working on cars anyway and i dont drive the miata on far trips its just a weekend toy.... so im not one to spend big money on eveything top notch the first time because im scared of breaking things.
a cheap turbo system is better than no turbo system right? so ill peice somthing together..if i break the diff il just replace it with a torsen then. i dont think its unheard of for my vlsd to hold 160hp for a while and if i break that its not like the whole car blows up.
i must say im a little disapointed in how all on this forum seem to like to discourage people..i think i will just look for a used deal on the solid basics for good parts the rest can go cheap for future upgrade....i guess i was just bored and wanted some suport...wasnt looking for here is exsactly how its done answers...i understand i will need to sorce deals and fab things....just thought out of everone on this forum someone had a good sucsess story i could read about with a starter build...but i guess everone here has a budjet to throw $5k+ at a time into a car....im not about to sell my other cars or bike to fund this project and i got to start somewhere.....
Get your flame suit on dawg.

I think people gave you **** because you didn't read any of the stickies. You came in with a HP figure and a budget and that's it. I'm still piecing together my turbo kit, but this forum is quite high-level. You don't get help unless you contribute. If you want people to help, you need to demonstrate that you can figure **** out for yourself. This isn't the place to go "i have X dollars and I want X horsepowar how do i do it??"

Jabbing the guys on this forum about being able to spend $$ is not a good idea. Miatas cost $1-3K! Maybe that's why some people have cash to blow. And although the most popular build threads are Artech mani's and gt2871's and **** like that, there are some people who have made some cheap china turbo builds. If you're really on a budget you might want to look into someone's old Mazdaspeed kit. I know that's what I'm considering right now.

So quit bitching about doing a little work. you'll thanks everyone for it later when you can upload your maps and virtual dyno and get some insightful help from some serious experts. AND MERRY CHRISTMAS!
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Get your flame suit on dawg.

I think people gave you **** because you didn't read any of the stickies. You came in with a HP figure and a budget and that's it. I'm still piecing together my turbo kit, but this forum is quite high-level. You don't get help unless you contribute. If you want people to help, you need to demonstrate that you can figure **** out for yourself. This isn't the place to go "i have X dollars and I want X horsepowar how do i do it??"

Jabbing the guys on this forum about being able to spend $$ is not a good idea. Miatas cost $1-3K! Maybe that's why some people have cash to blow. And although the most popular build threads are Artech mani's and gt2871's and **** like that, there are some people who have made some cheap china turbo builds. If you're really on a budget you might want to look into someone's old Mazdaspeed kit. I know that's what I'm considering right now.

So quit bitching about doing a little work. you'll thanks everyone for it later when you can upload your maps and virtual dyno and get some insightful help from some serious experts. AND MERRY CHRISTMAS!
For being an 8 post newb, I am impressed by your post. It is spot on of why we treat newbs badly. Merry Christmas!!!!
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Would you rather be discouraged from using cheap junk now by guys on the internet or be discouraged later when your motor eats a cheap turbo and blows up? I completely understand not having a huge budget for a toy, but your money is better spent on other mods rather than a cheap turbo system that will only need to be replaced later. And as for any turbo is better than no turbo, wrong. I would rather have Xida's than a cheap turbo.
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Buy used. Be patient. Or be a ***.
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Would you rather be discouraged from using cheap junk now by guys on the internet or be discouraged later when your motor eats a cheap turbo and blows up? I completely understand not having a huge budget for a toy, but your money is better spent on other mods rather than a cheap turbo system that will only need to be replaced later. And as for any turbo is better than no turbo, wrong. I would rather have Xida's than a cheap turbo.
+1

I'd also would rather have an awesome suspension setup over a turbo.

Bogus' advice was perfect on his post. The OP could have done more searching. there are tons of budget build threads in the build threads section with lots of good info.

BTMiata kind of thread jacked it and said that he was going to turbo and he thought it was a bad idea to not just save and go all out. do it "right" the first time.

There is nothing wrong with a 2k budget and making a reliable turbo system for somewhere near that figure. I kind of think it's stupid and ignorant to even say it's not right when he hasn't even tried it or isn't even turboed.

the main components to keep it low

1) used log mani if you can find.
2) used sr20 turbo
3) custom dp or maybe one from abe.
4) mega squirt
5) ebay intercooler setup

If you do something like this and you ever decide to get serious all of it except the mani is reusable on a 1.8 if you ever swap. It's easy enough to sell turbo manifolds anyway...

Realistically you'll be more around 2.5 - 3k after all the little **** you don't think about... motor mounts, engine oil, transmission oil, coolant, hoses, clamps, whatever...
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Get your flame suit on dawg.


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So quit bitching about doing a little work. you'll thanks everyone for it later when you can upload your maps and virtual dyno and get some insightful help from some serious experts. AND MERRY CHRISTMAS!
+ Props. Spot on.
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sounds good except the shitty link....ms or bust
To be fair the FMLINK suitable for a 1.6 miata is a good solution, it's just as capable - if not more with full knock sensing capeability - as a MS1.
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You're probably right, ms1 aint nothing to write home about, and both would control fuel and timing decently, so for a low budget build it probably would cut it. Though I have heard quite a few more horror stories about broken/malfunctioning Links than MS1's
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And although the most popular build threads are Artech mani's and gt2871's and **** like that,
Wrong. The most popular build is Artech + Borg Warner S366.
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Wrong. The most popular build is Artech + Borg Warner S366.
Its not a build if it doesn't run
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i thouhght the ms1 was fuel only and u needed a ms2 to controll the ignition system??? at least thats what i understood from reading on diyautotune.com
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nope. ms1 controls both. just not as well as ms2...and ms3
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