1.6: AT long block, MT head?
12-11-2006, 04:38 PM
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1.6: AT long block, MT head?
This is all totally hypothetical, but since winter is here, I've got four months of fabrication.
Here's the story: Blew my 1.6 MT engine and thinking of swapping a T2 RX-7 13b into it. However, would a GReddy 1.6 be easier? For the 7, i'd have to fab up engine mounts, and rebuild a frankenstein trans (front bh and gears from 7, rear housing from Miata), whereas the 1.6, I'm thinking of the auto long block (lower compression) and MT head (cams). So would that be a better option than a bolt-on to a 1.6 MT engine?
Here's the story: Blew my 1.6 MT engine and thinking of swapping a T2 RX-7 13b into it. However, would a GReddy 1.6 be easier? For the 7, i'd have to fab up engine mounts, and rebuild a frankenstein trans (front bh and gears from 7, rear housing from Miata), whereas the 1.6, I'm thinking of the auto long block (lower compression) and MT head (cams). So would that be a better option than a bolt-on to a 1.6 MT engine?
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12-11-2006, 04:52 PM
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dropping a 13B into the miata requires a dry sump oiling system since the rotary would sit VERY low into the miata chassis. Its not worth it when you consider the cost unless you are just some rotary nut ( I know people like this ) 
You can use a 1.6L AT long block with a 1.6L MT head since the 1.6L MT head has better cams.
You can use a 1.6L AT long block with a 1.6L MT head since the 1.6L MT head has better cams.
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12-11-2006, 07:32 PM
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No worries. I just called up one of my friends, and he told me that the 13b oil pan does just that, hold oil, and nothing else. Meaning that a dry sump system could be made for as cheap as $30.
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12-11-2006, 07:39 PM
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No, on the 7 it's much easier because the oil does not have to flow through galleries into the oil pan. There's just a tube that drains the oil into it. On a piston engine, you have to accomodate for the oil draining from galleries into the pan, all that fun stuff. On the rotary, I can just extend the input/output tubes, and weld up a custom oil pan. Teehee.
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12-12-2006, 01:43 AM
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Having seen first hand a 13b conversion take place i can tell you guys the following......
*The sump did NOT require modifying,(i guess it depends on car it came from)
*The body needed to be releived at the very top of the transmission tunnel where it meets the firewall, to clear the bell housing as does the area around the gear shifter area...this is because the rotary engine "crankshaft" sits slightly higher than a piston engine so the gear box is held slightly higher although it retains the PPF on a frankenstein gearbox.
*The crossmember was modified to fit the engine....new engine mounts were made to come forward and down to meet the front mounting points on the engine.
Ill tey to get some pics next time im over to see it again.
*The sump did NOT require modifying,(i guess it depends on car it came from)
*The body needed to be releived at the very top of the transmission tunnel where it meets the firewall, to clear the bell housing as does the area around the gear shifter area...this is because the rotary engine "crankshaft" sits slightly higher than a piston engine so the gear box is held slightly higher although it retains the PPF on a frankenstein gearbox.
*The crossmember was modified to fit the engine....new engine mounts were made to come forward and down to meet the front mounting points on the engine.
Ill tey to get some pics next time im over to see it again.
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