Originally Posted by sixshooter
(Post 1527388)
Since you don't know a GTX from a GT, it should be noted that a potato is not a GTX. There's about a 15-year technology gap between the two.
And the EFR is even better than the GTX. And the EFR is even better (but even more expensive and requires different turbo manifold for clearance). EWG sounds the same if you pipe it back in downstream, and is unbearably loud if you don't. Creep can be solved in other ways, the big thing the EWG gives you is controllability over a wider range of EBC. --Ian |
Originally Posted by codrus
(Post 1527389)
Yes, the GTX is a bolt-on upgrade for a GT that adds 100+ hp with the same spool.
And the EFR is even better (but even more expensive and requires different turbo manifold for clearance). EWG sounds the same if you pipe it back in downstream, and is unbearably loud if you don't. Creep can be solved in other ways, the big thing the EWG gives you is controllability over a wider range of EBC. --Ian The efr6258 I bought for $1260 shipped and last I checked a gtx equivalent was considerably more $$$ |
Where can I find a 6258 for $1260? Everywhere I look, there are at least $1700. I'm all in for saving ~$500.
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I believe the $1260 price is without the turbine housing and the $1700 is with. GTX2860R is around $1400-1500 with.
--Ian |
Kinda need the housing to run the turbo, I thought maybe he had some secret (not so secret) hook-up.
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Originally Posted by skylinecalvin
(Post 1527393)
Where can I find a 6258 for $1260? Everywhere I look, there are at least $1700. I'm all in for saving ~$500.
Industrial injection 800-955-0476 Ask for Gavin, tell him it's a miata turbo special price.
Originally Posted by codrus
(Post 1527394)
I believe the $1260 price is without the turbine housing and the $1700 is with.
--Ian |
Does he have good deals on a EFR 7163 Twin scroll?
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Aight, y'all the best. I should seriously be a subscriber for this website.
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Originally Posted by matrussell122
(Post 1527398)
Does he have good deals on a EFR 7163 Twin scroll?
Where thmotorsports i was waiting 2 months with no ship date in sight. I also asked them if they can do the same price for my miata turbo peeps, Gavin said no problem. So I'd call him and ask if they can do a similar price break on a 7163 |
Originally Posted by skylinecalvin
(Post 1527399)
Aight, y'all the best. I should seriously be a subscriber for this website.
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Gtx2867r is $1200 with turbine housing, iirc.
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Why are you giving him false hope
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All this talk about supercores, if anyone is buying a 62/6758 I have a t25 0.64A/R turbine housing for sale.
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oh god, you said "hood exit"
contact Kraken on facebook messenger, he is fairly responsive there. I think manifold only is around $450-500 TSE is the best of the best as far as T25 EFR manifolds/kits go. Kraken a close second. TSE will be spendy for a manifold only. ebay tacotaco wont work with an EFR, the compressor housing will hit the cars side rail |
Don't do a hood exit unless you've already lost 80% of your brain cells due to vaping the phattest of clouds.
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Keepin the retardedness set to 11.
nobody on here will condone a hood exit. |
Dunno how I missed subscribing to this thread. :drama:
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If hood-exits make a build "truly your own" then you have pretty low standards. Simply adding to the many crap sounding cars in Houston.
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@Savington , thank you for designing your manifold so we can have a decent length hood exit. When will your hood exit exhaust be available?
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Right after the forums work properly
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Originally Posted by borka
(Post 1527504)
ebay tacotaco wont work with an EFR, the compressor housing will hit the cars side rail
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Originally Posted by achulz
(Post 1527304)
What's a better option? 9.5:1? I don't want to go all the way down to 8.6:1, then I'm just running more boost for the same power level. That is why I chose 11:1, I know combustion temps can get very high but there's ways to work around that, WMI for instance.
Edit: I'm asking because I can change the order before it ships. Aren't these the same thing? https://fab9tuning.com/arp-head-stud-kit/ https://www.miataturbo.net/diy-turbo...ase-car-92683/ |
Originally Posted by 208fabrication
(Post 1528109)
Here is your 11:1 with turbo build that all the naysayers in this thread are drooling over.
https://www.miataturbo.net/diy-turbo...ase-car-92683/ We're just haters, though. |
Originally Posted by 208fabrication
(Post 1528109)
Here is your 11:1 with turbo build that all the naysayers in this thread are drooling over.
https://www.miataturbo.net/diy-turbo...ase-car-92683/ no one said that 11:1 pistons cant ever be used. OP said he will primarily run the car on 93 gas, with maybe some e85 here and there. in which case 11:1 pistons is not the correct choice. |
Point is that he should go with his original build plan and enjoy how much fun that would be. 11:1 and low boost would be a blast and survive just fine on 93.
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Point is, you are wrong. 11:1 boosted on 93 is stupid, plain and simple.
There's one arena where that could be acceptable: DI cars. |
Explain to me how I am wrong and explain how my 12.5:1 motorcycle runs amazing for 40,xxx miles on 87 octane at 2500+ foot elevation?
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:facepalm:
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Originally Posted by 208fabrication
(Post 1528164)
Explain to me how I am wrong and explain how my 12.5:1 motorcycle runs amazing for 40,xxx miles on 87 octane at 2500+ foot elevation?
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Originally Posted by 208fabrication
(Post 1528164)
Explain to me how I am wrong and explain how my 12.5:1 motorcycle runs amazing for 40,xxx miles on 87 octane at 2500+ foot elevation?
Evo X: 9:1 Golf R: 9.6:1 STI: 8.2:1 you should start selling your idea man you've obviously figured something major out here. |
Lol at streetbike comparison. Off the shelf OEM engine making 200 hp per liter.
The exhaust exit location on an outboard boat engine is more technically advanced than a miata engine. |
Originally Posted by 208fabrication
(Post 1528164)
Explain to me how I am wrong and explain how my 12.5:1 motorcycle runs amazing for 40,xxx miles on 87 octane at 2500+ foot elevation?
I'm going to recommend you do some reading on internal combustion engine design and theory of operation before making recommendations to the other noobs. Study things like rod ratio, undersquare versus oversquare engine designs, quench, tumble and swirl, combustion chamber design, the effects of cam duration and overlap on dynamic compression ratio, and definitely forced induction detonation characteristics relating to mechanical compression ratios. Report back your findings for us. |
Originally Posted by sixshooter
(Post 1528184)
All engines must have identical design properties in your world. Why doesn't my Miata make power at 14,000 rpm reliably like my motorcycle did? Surely they are both engines! Maybe I am just a fool for not trying to rev my Miata so high. I haven't tried it and it just might work.
I'm going to recommend you do some reading on internal combustion engine design and theory of operation before making recommendations to the other noobs. Study things like rod ratio, undersquare versus oversquare engine designs, quench, tumble and swirl, combustion chamber design, the effects of cam duration and overlap on dynamic compression ratio, and definitely forced induction detonation characteristics relating to mechanical compression ratios. Report back your findings for us. No balls, he won't. :rofl: |
Originally Posted by sixshooter
(Post 1528184)
All engines must have identical design properties in your world. Why doesn't my Miata make power at 14,000 rpm reliably like my motorcycle did? Surely they are both engines! Maybe I am just a fool for not trying to rev my Miata so high. I haven't tried it and it just might work.
I'm going to recommend you do some reading on internal combustion engine design and theory of operation before making recommendations to the other noobs. Study things like rod ratio, undersquare versus oversquare engine designs, quench, tumble and swirl, combustion chamber design, the effects of cam duration and overlap on dynamic compression ratio, and definitely forced induction detonation characteristics relating to mechanical compression ratios. Report back your findings for us. |
Originally Posted by concealer404
(Post 1528192)
Ew that sounds hard though.
How about maybe just the difference between static compression ratio and dynamic compression ratio? It would be nice but it's not necessary if 208 learns anything or not as long as he's not spouting antithetical bullshit to trusting and unsuspecting noobs. |
Yeah but with such low compression how do you overfill your pistons?
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Originally Posted by concealer404
(Post 1528210)
Yeah but with such low compression how do you overfill your pistons?
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Originally Posted by concealer404
(Post 1528210)
Yeah but with such low compression how do you overfill your pistons?
Originally Posted by sixshooter
(Post 1528211)
I use smaller air so I can fit more inside.
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Originally Posted by sixshooter
(Post 1528184)
All engines must have identical design properties in your world. Why doesn't my Miata make power at 14,000 rpm reliably like my motorcycle did? Surely they are both engines! Maybe I am just a fool for not trying to rev my Miata so high. I haven't tried it and it just might work.
I'm going to recommend you do some reading on internal combustion engine design and theory of operation before making recommendations to the other noobs. Study things like rod ratio, undersquare versus oversquare engine designs, quench, tumble and swirl, combustion chamber design, the effects of cam duration and overlap on dynamic compression ratio, and definitely forced induction detonation characteristics relating to mechanical compression ratios. Report back your findings for us. No wait, that was saturday night. :naughty: |
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Originally Posted by sixshooter
(Post 1528184)
I'm going to recommend you do some reading on internal combustion engine design and theory of operation before making recommendations to the other noobs. Study things like rod ratio, undersquare versus oversquare engine designs, quench, tumble and swirl, combustion chamber design, the effects of cam duration and overlap on dynamic compression ratio, and definitely forced induction detonation characteristics relating to mechanical compression ratios. Report back your findings for us.
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Originally Posted by ivanskoro
(Post 1528354)
Do you have a book recommendation that covers these topics on a beginners level?
I started with automotive textbooks for theory of operation of all components and then transitioned into performance enhancing technologies like combustion chamber design, camshaft design (including all of the "Camshaft 101" lessons from major camshaft manufacturers), intake runner tuning, and all of the other terms mentioned in my other post. Then I transitioned into forced induction theory and operation. I would recommend the book when you reach that point, but not before then. Ideas build on each other. I've been at it for awhile but still have a lot to learn. Technology and understanding keep progressing. But our little engines were designed in the 1980's using technology that was old and not cutting edge at that time. Mazda is small and quite poor compared to Honda, Toyota, and Nissan. They used existing architecture out of necessity. |
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Originally Posted by concealer404
(Post 1527402)
I wouldn't. The money obviously doesn't go towards a "Make the forums work consistently" fund.
@Robb M. it's happening again. |
Originally Posted by concealer404
(Post 1528611)
Here i am quoting myself in the hopes that i will be able to see my reply so i can read the rest of the thread.
@Robb M. it's happening again. |
HP Elitebook with an i7, 512mb ssd, 32gb of ram, nvidia quadro m2000 2gb.
Issue randomly happens on Chrome and Firefox both. Just went 3-4 days without it happening, i've had it happen twice this morning already. |
Our tech guys were unable to replicate, I haven't yet either. It's def not your machine based on the above. Not even sure what info I could ask you to try and collect to help isolate this. All I can think is a rogue ad unit. I'm certain you have related threads and infinite scroll turned off?
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I can't intentionally replicate it either, unfortunately. Yes those dumpster fires have been eradicated from my personal preferences.
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i guess screenshot if possible and let’s look for a common ad? not much of a solution.
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Originally Posted by concealer404
(Post 1528619)
HP Elitebook with an i7, 512mb ssd, 32gb of ram, nvidia quadro m2000 2gb.
Issue randomly happens on Chrome and Firefox both. Just went 3-4 days without it happening, i've had it happen twice this morning already. |
OP, I would install a ral clutch first time 'round. unless you like to pull engines. I dont like to, so thats my thought.
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Originally Posted by Robb M.
(Post 1528632)
i guess screenshot if possible and let’s look for a common ad? not much of a solution.
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Confirmed for troll account.
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Originally Posted by achulz
(Post 1528641)
I work at a shop, I can change the clutch out in less than an hour. I bought the Exedy clutch a while ago when I first got the car, I'm definitely going to use it while I'm still N/A. No reason to wear out an expensive clutch when it's not boosted.
sell the unused stock clutch. save labor AND money. unless of course, more complicated and more expensive is what you are after. |
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