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levnubhin 04-07-2009 12:45 PM

2nd Issue with my China charger
 
Hate to be the bearer of bad news but......



I already checked for shaft play and there isn't any and I can't make it touch the housing. So.....:dunno:
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gospeed81 04-07-2009 12:48 PM

wow, that stinks

So if there is no shaft play, then we're hearing bearings?

railz 04-07-2009 12:50 PM

that sounds horrible.

you have my condolences.

gospeed81 04-07-2009 12:52 PM

All in the name of science...

Cpt_Slow 04-07-2009 12:53 PM

Guess it's time to test the warranty...

Edit: were you running restricted oil?

levnubhin 04-07-2009 12:57 PM


Originally Posted by Cpt_Slow (Post 392389)
Guess it's time to test the warranty...

Edit: were you running restricted oil?

No I wasn't, not until last night at least.
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Cpt_Slow 04-07-2009 12:58 PM

Sounds like the bearings went dry. Any chance the restriction cut oil completely?

levnubhin 04-07-2009 01:02 PM


Originally Posted by Cpt_Slow (Post 392392)
Sounds like the bearings went dry. Any chance the restriction cut oil completely?

Wasn't running a restrictor until last night. It's been making this noise for a few days.
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m2cupcar 04-07-2009 01:11 PM

I read at least once that some have had bearing tolerances so tight on the chinachargers that there was no shaft play new. Journal bearing turbos need some lateral shaft play- that's the tolerance needed for the oil. Did it have play when new?

levnubhin 04-07-2009 01:49 PM


Originally Posted by m2cupcar (Post 392401)
I read at least once that some have had bearing tolerances so tight on the chinachargers that there was no shaft play new. Journal bearing turbos need some lateral shaft play- that's the tolerance needed for the oil. Did it have play when new?

No sir.
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thagr81 us 04-07-2009 02:03 PM

That sucks man... Hopefully it won't be a problem to get it all exchanged. Good luck!

m2cupcar 04-07-2009 02:09 PM

I bet that's it. I bet the tolerance is so tight new that the bearing itself is creating oil starvation. My garrett, new as delivered from an authorized dealer had lateral shaft play, but not enough to touch the compressor housing. The tolerance was problem half the distance from the wheel/blade edge to the wall in an extreme-to-extreme shaft play test.

hustler 04-07-2009 02:09 PM

I suggest you take it to a turbo shop and ask them if its worth a fresh bearing or not.

levnubhin 04-07-2009 02:11 PM

I've already contacted the seller and emailed the the link to the youtube clip. I will wait for them to respond.
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leatherface24 04-07-2009 02:12 PM


Originally Posted by hustler (Post 392444)
i suggest you take it to a turbo shop and ask them if its worth a fresh bearing or not.

+1

leatherface24 04-07-2009 02:37 PM

now that i think of it Phil, by the time your done getting that repaired, you could have gotten a decent name brand for the same money

Turbo_4 04-07-2009 02:43 PM

*walks outside to check turbo shaft play*

Turbo_4 04-07-2009 02:45 PM

Mine has lateral play to it...enough to wiggle a little but not touch the side wall. BTW, I've been using a homemade restrictor from day one.

m2cupcar 04-07-2009 03:04 PM

Why would you want less oil to get to a journal bearing?

Stein 04-07-2009 03:40 PM

Journal bearing turbos shouldn't need a restrictor unless you are running over 60 psi oil pressure.


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