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Old Jan 13, 2012 | 12:11 PM
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Question 4-2-1 Turbo manifold

Why are there no manifolds designed like this? Discuss
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Old Jan 13, 2012 | 12:15 PM
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Why are there no manifolds designed like this? Discuss
Where do you want us to put the turbo with a 3' long manifold?
Old Jan 13, 2012 | 12:20 PM
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I cant get the pic to work or it would be easier to understand...
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Originally Posted by Boost Joose
I cant get the pic to work or it would be easier to understand...
We understand, 4-2-1 are not short enough to really work in our cars without triple-loop ram-horn pipes. However, that would make a great safety-wire wienie roaster.
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Fixed!
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This is fail because of firing order. You'd have to go 4-2 and 1-3. Now things are a little more complicated. Well, I guess you would...it turns out that I don't know what I'm talking about. Hmm, I've never been here before...
Old Jan 13, 2012 | 12:44 PM
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As far as firing order goes, I think that is more important on a N/A application and even then I have seen both configurations with negligible differences. I'm thinking of eventually making one like this but I'm trying to figure out why I've never seen one.

Edit: Actually I have on a pro-drag SRT-4 making like 1400 hp, so maybe there's something to this.
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Old Jan 13, 2012 | 12:47 PM
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So go ahead and design one - you seem to be well on your way with that drawing!
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Boost Joose builds the Spruce Goose.

Sure you could make a long runner manifold like that. It is common on s2000. And Supra. I think they mostly do 4:1 though with a SICKASS MEGACOLLECTOR>>>

Just put the turbo up towards the headlight or move radiator back and put it uh somehwere up front.


You can't top this shi though for intake manifold!!!!


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Originally Posted by Boost Joose
Edit: Actually I have on a pro-drag SRT-4 making like 1400 hp, so maybe there's something to this.
No, you don't.
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Originally Posted by Faeflora
You can't top this shi though for intake manifold!!!!


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I don't know why this kid hasn't been banned yet. He has no idea what he's doing or any any basic knowledge of turbo cars.
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Banned? For throwing out ideas? I didn't know MT.net is/trying to be a communist forum.
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Originally Posted by Boost Joose
Banned? For throwing out ideas? I didn't know MT.net is/trying to be a communist forum.
It's called "free market" and are about to get a pink slip.
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Originally Posted by viperormiata
I don't know why this kid hasn't been banned yet. He has no idea what he's doing or any any basic knowledge of turbo cars.
I want to hear about his 15,000,000,000hp Neon.
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Originally Posted by hustler
I want to hear about his 15,000,000,000hp Neon.
I'll get a picture of it for you this afternoon....
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Originally Posted by Boost Joose
I'll get a picture of it for you this afternoon....
You don't have a picture of it on the internet, anywhere? I think a trillion HP Neon dragstrip car would have a picture or a youtube video hosted somewhere. We'll see if you can get it posted before you **** someone off enough to warrant a ban.
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Hi Joose, this is your father speaking. We don't make 4-2-1 for various reasons. The added fabrication headache required isn't justified by a bump in power. We also have limited room in our engine bays. We also have issues keeping much shorter manifolds from cracking from vibration, and that vibration stretching our studs.

That all being said, we'd love to see you pioneer this setup and prove us wrong. Some of us might even offer you condolences if it doesn't work, and we might all switch to your design if it does work.

However when you come here saying you have a crazy idea for a manifold that no ones ever built and say you have a 1400hp drag car to prove your credibility, you can understand our doubt. But again, please prove us wrong.

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Originally Posted by curly
Hi Joose, this is your father speaking. We don't make 4-2-1 for various reasons. The added fabrication headache required isn't justified by a bump in power. We also have limited room in our engine bays. We also have issues keeping much shorter manifolds from cracking from vibration, and that vibration stretching our studs.

That all being said, we'd love to see you pioneer this setup and prove us wrong. Some of us might even offer you condolences if it doesn't work, and we might all switch to your design if it does work.

However when you come here saying you have a crazy idea for a manifold that no ones ever built and say you have a 1400hp drag car to prove your credibility, you can understand our doubt. But again, please prove us wrong.

~Dad
Don't run him off, let him post pictures of someone's Neon from NOPI Nights first.
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Originally Posted by hustler
You don't have a picture of it on the internet, anywhere? I think a trillion HP Neon dragstrip car would have a picture or a youtube video hosted somewhere. We'll see if you can get it posted before you **** someone off enough to warrant a ban.
It's not mine, a friends....got him to send me a pic.










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