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Old 02-22-2015, 07:42 PM   #41
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I learned a long time ago to not cheap out on oil lines. I have used most major brands on AN lines and fittings. Cheapest ones found on ebay, silicone intakes fittings, EARLS, Summit, Mocal, and Aeroquip. I now won't use anything not Mocal or Aeroquip. The difference in quality is worth the higher prices.

I will be offering up an oil line kit. Will come with all fittings you need for the turbo and block, along with oil feed and drain. Lines and hose fittings will be Aeroquip and assembled at a local hydraulic store. They will also be covered in fire sleeve, something no other vendors are currently offering.

If you want to assemble your own lines I recommend Mocal fittings and hoses and you can get them from here.



ATP and Treadstone are where I get some of my fittings from. Others I get from the local hydraulic shop.
I figured I could make my oil return line with

AN pushlock hose, AN-8 full flow fittings 90 and 45 degrees, with firesleeve & to wrap the ends, some firesleeve tape.

5 feet of hose JEGS Performance Products 102200, JEGS Push-Loc Hose | JEGS Performance Products -- $12.99
90 degree fitting http://97.74.32.155/files/ahosend.pdf -- $16.45
45 degree fitting http://97.74.32.155/files/ahosend.pdf -- $16.45
firesleeve Black Vulcan Fire Sleeve Fire Braid Flame Shield 5 8x3ft 10AN Made in USA | eBay -- $17.95
tape http://www.firesleeveandtape.com/AB-...talog-T-SR.pdf -- $29.37

total for return hose is $93.21

Is there a way to do this cheaper? Especially considering I still need an inlet hose, and water feed/inlet hoses.

When do you think your oil line kit will be available?



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FM has a kit for $249 http://www.flyinmiata.com/index.php?...0%20%201994-05
I was hoping I could do it cheaper though

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I figured I could make my oil return line with

AN pushlock hose, AN-8 full flow fittings 90 and 45 degrees, with firesleeve & to wrap the ends, some firesleeve tape.

5 feet of hose JEGS Performance Products 102200, JEGS Push-Loc Hose | JEGS Performance Products -- $12.99
90 degree fitting http://97.74.32.155/files/ahosend.pdf -- $16.45
45 degree fitting http://97.74.32.155/files/ahosend.pdf -- $16.45
firesleeve Black Vulcan Fire Sleeve Fire Braid Flame Shield 5 8x3ft 10AN Made in USA | eBay -- $17.95
tape http://www.firesleeveandtape.com/AB-...talog-T-SR.pdf -- $29.37

total for return hose is $93.21

Is there a way to do this cheaper? Especially considering I still need an inlet hose, and water feed/inlet hoses.

When do you think your oil line kit will be available?

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FM has a kit for $249 http://www.flyinmiata.com/index.php?...0%20%201994-05
I was hoping I could do it cheaper though
Why do you need push lock fittings? And the tape can be eliminated just use stainless wire or stainless header wrap ties to hold the ends
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Why do you need push lock fittings? And the tape can be eliminated just use stainless wire or stainless header wrap ties to hold the ends
The fittings I linked to were normal AN-8 fittings, I linked the wrong ones.

The full flow fittings are about 30 a piece from Aeroflow. Aeroflow Performance Products - Professional Fluid Transfer Systems and Performance Products

I never said I needed Pushlock, Pushlock is just one way to make the return hose, and as a general consensus has said, "don't skimp on the hoses." It would make sense to build a quality return line.

Pushlock offers flexibility, and easy installation. The fittings are fully adjustable. If there are other alternatives I'd love to hear them. Ultimately I am still trying to get a kit together that has everything I need for a quality turbo build, while saving money in comparison to the FM II Hydra kit.

My kit currently stands at this estimated price point without oil/water lines. I am open to any and all suggestions on how to go about getting my lines in a cost effective, but quality manner.

1. t25 from sr20 -- $120

2. EV14 60lb/630cc injectors -- $160
+ extenders / adapters / lower seals -- $77

3. MS3x -- $800
+ EBC --$47

4. Synapse BOV -- $189

5. Intercooler kit --$339

7. Boost Gauge -- $11 (will upgrade this)

8. EGR block off plate -- $26

9. FM mani/dp -- $749

10. oil line kit -- $45

Estimated total is around 2563
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I now won't use anything not Mocal or Aeroquip. The difference in quality is worth the higher prices.
I assume you mean you won't use anything but Mocal or Aeroquip?

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I will be offering up an oil line kit. Will come with all fittings you need for the turbo and block, along with oil feed and drain.
This brings me happiness. One less thing to worry about.
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I didn't see a wideband O2 on your list. I really wouldn't want to do a megasquirt without one.
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Hey guys what's up?

I have a 95 miata that's been previously turbo'd, but the original owner took it off before he sold it to the guy who I bought the car from.

The oil pan has a spot for the oil feed line already, I also have an upgraded clutch, and a wideband o2 sensor with a gauge, and a 3" silverline dual exhaust.
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Thanks for quoting that for me. haha


On a sidenote Anyone have any thoughts on these injectors?

650cc Fuel Injectors for Mitsubishi EVO 4 5 6 7 8 9 RX 7 FC3S 13B 20B 4AGE 4G63T | eBay

http://www.ebay.com/itm/4-550CC-INJE...60fbf9&vxp=mtr -- These come with EV6 connectors.

$149 shipped


If these injectors work, this is the current estimate

1. t25 from sr20 -- $120

2. EBay 650cc injectors (buy connectors separate) / EBay 550cc injectors w/ ev6 connectors -- $149

3. MS3x w/ EBC solenoid -- $830

5. Intercooler kit / using the BOV that comes with it (waiting on the synapse) -- $339

7. Boost Gauge -- $11 (will upgrade this)

8. EGR block off plate -- $26

9. FM mani/dp -- $749

10.FM oil line kit -- $249

Estimated total is around 2473

Trying to get the cost of the injectors down. Still looking for some help on the oil/water lines. If anyone has any good ideas I'd love to hear them!
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For the oil and water lines on my last build I went to the local hydraulics fab shop. Got all 8 lines (twin turbo) for $240
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Mkturbo isn't Michael Kours?

Stop looking to cheap out on **** via eBay. If it isn't an intercooler diy kit it's pretty much never a good idea unless its name brand x sold via ebay.
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