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rharris19 02-05-2009 01:50 PM

BEGi is going to offer DIY kits
 
BEGi added to their web site two kits coming in the next few days. One is going to have the manifold downpipe and a garrett turbo and the other, the "Shanghai kit" is going to have a chinese turbo they have been testing for a while in house.

BEGi - - Front Page News - shanghai

Should be interesting.

mazda/nissan 02-05-2009 02:16 PM

just my luck, I would love to Shanghai my miata, perhaps I will shanghai the 1.8L swap

boardboy330 02-05-2009 02:20 PM

Stephanie was telling me about this...should end the constant bitching about late shipping...since it's all DIY - they COULD get these shipped quickly (doesn't mean it will or won't happen).

Kudos to Bell for doing this...great idea.

mazda/nissan 02-05-2009 02:24 PM

I wonder if they would leak which chinacharger they are using?

skidude 02-05-2009 02:30 PM

well, if BEGi can use a chinacharger, maybe I should give one a try on my next build.

hustler 02-05-2009 02:30 PM

I'd like to china-charge my daily...once my green car proves to be reliable.

chinamen...cheaper than jews.

y8s 02-05-2009 02:38 PM


Originally Posted by hustler (Post 363869)
chinamen...cheaper than jews.

what if a chinese man converted to judaism???

boardboy330 02-05-2009 02:52 PM

Not possible...Jews would never allow someone cheaper than them into the "club"

(My gf is jewish - as is her family)

Eraser-X 02-05-2009 02:54 PM

Careful here people my kids are both Chinese and Jewish. I was going to be the 1st person to buy this new chinacharger kit form BEGi but that car is no longer getting a turbo and the insurance is paying out better then expected.

I will be down there in a few days to get some parts so I can get some pics of the chinachargers they are going to use if that will help anyone.

hustler 02-05-2009 03:15 PM


Originally Posted by Eraser-X (Post 363876)
Careful here people my kids are both Chinese and Jewish. I was going to be the 1st person to buy this new chinacharger kit form BEGi but that car is no longer getting a turbo and the insurance is paying out better then expected.

I will be down there in a few days to get some parts so I can get some pics of the chinachargers they are going to use if that will help anyone.

your kids are awesome. I've never been so entertained by kids.

I should also note that I saw the Borat movie with a Jewish girl I met in Santa Fe, lol.

What car did you pick-up? I wanted that turbo brg, bad.

NA6C-Guy 02-05-2009 03:27 PM

Good, just in time for my build. I was just thinking about something like this a few daysgo. Seems they read my mind! Once I get more info on the china charger, I may take that route to be one of the earlier testers. I plan to turbo within 2 or 3 months, so perfect timing.

I was eyeballing an "off brand" turbo last night, similar specs to a 2560, but only ~$275. As long as the center section is fairly designed, and the housings are rip offs of name brand parts, what really could go wrong? Only so many parts in a turbo that can fail.

Saml01 02-05-2009 03:43 PM

I think all the chinachargers are journal bearing not ball bearing. keep that in mind.

viperormiata 02-05-2009 04:22 PM

My friend had a china t3/t4 on his e30 and it worked like a champ.

has any one else had good result with chinachargers????

Rafa 02-05-2009 04:26 PM


Originally Posted by Eraser-X (Post 363876)
Careful here people my kids are both Chinese and Jewish. I was going to be the 1st person to buy this new chinacharger kit form BEGi but that car is no longer getting a turbo and the insurance is paying out better then expected.

I will be down there in a few days to get some parts so I can get some pics of the chinachargers they are going to use if that will help anyone.

I'd like to know what turbo they're going to be offering. I currently have a T3/T4.

Thanks for the offer.


p.s. where you involved in an accident? What are your plans now?

Saml01 02-05-2009 04:31 PM


Originally Posted by Eraser-X (Post 363876)
Careful here people my kids are both Chinese and Jewish. I was going to be the 1st person to buy this new chinacharger kit form BEGi but that car is no longer getting a turbo and the insurance is paying out better then expected.

I will be down there in a few days to get some parts so I can get some pics of the chinachargers they are going to use if that will help anyone.

For the record, I am Jewish. I find it interesting that you refer to it as a Race, definitely the first person outside the religion to do so. Unless you are the Jew in the equation.

kenzo42 02-05-2009 04:37 PM


Originally Posted by Saml01 (Post 363934)
For the record, I am Jewish. I find it interesting that you refer to it as a Race, definitely the first person outside the religion to do so. Unless you are the Jew in the equation.

Sam,
I've asked this question to some in the past, and from what I understand it is an ethnicity and also a religion. Not too many of you guys here in CA so I don't get too much exposure from Jews over here. Enlighten me so I don't make a fool of myself in the future.

BTW, is calling someone a Jew derogatory?

patsmx5 02-05-2009 04:45 PM


Originally Posted by NA6C-Guy (Post 363894)
Good, just in time for my build. I was just thinking about something like this a few daysgo. Seems they read my mind! Once I get more info on the china charger, I may take that route to be one of the earlier testers. I plan to turbo within 2 or 3 months, so perfect timing.

I was eyeballing an "off brand" turbo last night, similar specs to a 2560, but only ~$275. As long as the center section is fairly designed, and the housings are rip offs of name brand parts, what really could go wrong? Only so many parts in a turbo that can fail.

I have a mixed opinion on the matter. There are some things like material selection, maintaining exacting clearances and surface finish repeatably, quality of the parts made, manufacturing processes, etc that affect the end product. Chinese parts are known to be sub-par. Cheap before everything else. Certain things that's ok. On a turbo, I would be VERY cautious buying a Chinese rip-off of a GT2560. Dr. Turbo on the forum said they literally reverse engineer the name brand turbo's to get the specs to build their knock-offs.

Personally, I run knock-off (though not Chinese knockoffs) WG and BOV. These are important parts, but they aren't subjected to the extreme conditions a turbocharger is expected to reliably operate under (my BOV doesn't spin 100k RPM's either).

NA6C-Guy 02-05-2009 04:47 PM

You're all jews, now get back on topic! :gtfo: This is about BEGi kits and chinachargers, both of which I am interested in hearing more about.

I guess I knew most all Chinachargers were journal bearing, which is probably how they keep the price so low. But for a $400 savings vs a Garrett, I could take a slight delay in boost. I will be curious to see axactly what they will offer. If it looks decent I may very well bite, but if its not such a hot deal, I may still stick with my other plans. I will almost for sure use their manifold and downpipe either way.

Saml01 02-05-2009 04:54 PM


Originally Posted by kenzo42 (Post 363936)
Sam,
I've asked this question to some in the past, and from what I understand it is an ethnicity and also a religion. Not too many of you guys here in CA so I don't get too much exposure from Jews over here. Enlighten me so I don't make a fool of myself in the future.

BTW, is calling someone a Jew derogatory?

HA! "You guys". :bowrofl:

Its too long to really explain the finely drawn line, so if you are really that curious you can IM me and ill give you the run down. But accept it as both, better to do that then not and get into an unnecessary debate with someone.

It can be derogatory depending on context. Kinda like ------ and nigga, you know.

But yea, lets get back on topic. I stopped hijacking threads a long time ago and I dont want braineack changing my avatar again.

FHS 02-05-2009 04:57 PM


Not too many of you guys here in CA so I don't get too much exposure from Jews over here.
Plenty in the Los Angeles area. There's a large Hasidic community near WeHo with a couple of Yeshivot nearby.


I think Mark had a Chinacharger in his "Ghettocharger" set-up. He said often that it worked fine and was dependable.


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