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Old 11-23-2006, 07:56 AM   #1
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Default bipes and voodo ?

I have looked here and other forums and cant find anyone who has used the two together , has anyone tried this??
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Old 11-23-2006, 10:40 AM   #2
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Oh BTW, HAPPY THANKS GIVING

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Old 11-23-2006, 11:15 AM   #3
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well the bipes can only be used on the NA models and since the voodoo just came out earlier this month for the NAs, I wouldn't be surprised if anyone had tried it yet.
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Old 11-23-2006, 12:31 PM   #4
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I ran the Bipes and JRPC on my 96 for ~18 mos. It was a great set up. I also used an O2 clamp and ran my Bipes off a map sensor. (the PC and Voodoo were designed by the same people)
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Old 11-23-2006, 06:19 PM   #5
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I thought the voodoo had been out longer. I have been using the Bipes for more than 4 years, on my setup. It would be nice to get away from the high pressure and the afpr, and not have to pay for a full standalone.
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Old 11-23-2006, 07:09 PM   #6
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The voodoo box will be ultimately limited by the injector size. I think it is pretty well accepted that the 1.6 ECU can only deal with about a 330cc injector. And even then you'd have to mess around with the AFM to make it work. A 330cc injector @ 43.5psi will support about 170hp (crank) or about 150 at the wheels. I'm guessing that would be around 5-6psi. If you are happy with that then the PC or Voodoo would work.

There are other options, that aren't standalone. You could run piggyback injector(s). I imagine you could safely get to 200whp using an on addtional 550cc injector and something to drive it (Turbo Link, Emanage Blue).

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Old 11-23-2006, 07:13 PM   #7
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the voodoo seems like a nice box but it's pretty expensive for what it does i reckon.
but if you're after an easy solution and price is not a concern, it looks good.
i know i must be sounding like a broken record, but if you're any good with a soldering iron have a look at a megasquirt, or if you just wanna do fuel a DFA.
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Old 11-23-2006, 07:17 PM   #8
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Before buying the voodoo think about an emanage blue. It'll replace the bipes as well.

There is a complete setup forsale (mine)
https://www.miataturbo.net/forums/showthread.php?t=5675

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I think it is pretty well accepted that the 1.6 ECU can only deal with about a 330cc injector. And even then you'd have to mess around with the AFM to make it work.

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i've had my 460cc's running great on the dfa and stock ecu for a week or two now. milage is even a little better than it was before i fitted them.
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yeah emanage blue looks like a good option too. my buddy has one of those.
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Old 11-23-2006, 07:18 PM   #11
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What's a DFA?
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Old 11-23-2006, 07:22 PM   #12
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digital fuel adjuster. it's a diy kit, costs about $60us + the hand controller which is about $50us i think.
http://autospeed.drive.com.au/cms/A_2418/article.html
http://autospeed.drive.com.au/cms/A_2420/article.html
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Ah ok.
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I'm running the Bipes along with the Voodoo box on my vintage BEGI 4.2 setup. I guess you can say I have a Voodoo turbo now. This is on a 94 1.8 Miata w/stock injectors. With this setup (here at about sea level) I can run up to about 7psi before I get any pinging. I picked up a set of the "green top" 305 injectors but I haven't had a chance to install them to see if I can run a bit more boost.

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I'm running the Bipes along with the Voodoo box on my vintage BEGI 4.2 setup. I guess you can say I have a Voodoo turbo now. This is on a 94 1.8 Miata w/stock injectors. With this setup (here at about sea level) I can run up to about 7psi before I get any pinging. I picked up a set of the "green top" 305 injectors but I haven't had a chance to install them to see if I can run a bit more boost.

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You'll be able to run more no problem, but you'll have a very rich and uneven idle... You might have good luck with some 270cc injectors from a Honda.
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If you're looking for a TurboLink to control a 5th injector, I have one FS...email me at [email protected]
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You'll be able to run more no problem, but you'll have a very rich and uneven idle... You might have good luck with some 270cc injectors from a Honda.
That's what I figured. From the other poking around I've done, I understand that the 2001-05 (including MSM) injectors flow 265 @ 43.5psi of fuel. If I can find an inexpensive set I'll give it a try. The guys at FM say it just might work out to be a great little 8psi setup. I sure DON'T miss the AFPR (the Voodoo box is SO much smoother) and I wasn't crazy about running around at 100+psi fuel pressure either. Besides, I just passed smog w/this setup here in "Kahleeefornia" just fine.

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yeah emanage blue looks like a good option too. my buddy has one of those.
EMB is great, provided you have a WBO2 or spend the coin for the dyno time
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Old 11-26-2006, 01:28 AM   #19
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thanks for the imput Jon, I'm building a 1.6 and thinking of 1.8 injectors. I'm also looking into a megasquart. I'd like to have around 200 rwhp ( what I have now with my 94 ) and dont want more injectors. looking for a manifold for the Nissan turbo Im using. Most likely a cast unit from Bell.
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Going to 200rwhp on 1.8 injectors and stock fuel pressure isn't going to happen, at least not for very long You'll need around a 440cc injector at stock (43.5psi) fuel pressure.

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