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Old 01-26-2009, 12:01 AM   #101
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So far I have corrected you on that I know that ppp is what really matters. And all i wanted was a rough estimate on what people think is safe. And people have saide 22psi-30psi. I have also never argued torque is what brakes a engine. You are just arguing to argue.
You don't have a ******* clue dude. If you did, you would have stopped posting all the BS about boost=flow pages ago.
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So far I have corrected you on that I know that ppp is what really matters. And all i wanted was a rough estimate on what people think is safe. And people have saide 22psi-30psi. I have also never argued torque is what brakes a engine. You are just arguing to argue.
Internal resistance and compression brakes an engine.

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Provided the volume of said container is constant - WHICH IT ISN'T.

The volume is constant once every revolution. And since that is happening 10 times a second at idle then its safe to assume to that when you have denser air it is because the pressure has increased or temp or both. But i'm only dealing with pressure beacause its easier.
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So far I have corrected you on that I know that ppp is what really matters. And all i wanted was a rough estimate on what people think is safe. And people have saide 22psi-30psi. I have also never argued torque is what brakes a engine. You are just arguing to argue.
plane and simple there is no answer to your question (as stated before). The amount of PSI that will break your engine is entirely dependent on what turbo you use, the end. If you search you will see that when a question of this type is asked, people usually tell the person to set a base horsepower level, not PSI level, because there are a million and one ways to get to said horsepower.
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You don't have a ******* clue dude. If you did, you would have stopped posting all the BS about boost=flow pages ago.

I have proved that more boost equals more flow into the engine. You have said it yourself. And thats a fact not a speculation.
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Internal resistance and compression brakes an engine.

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I said that on second page.
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I was making fun of your inability to spell, if you can't realize that you really have no ******* clue what's going on.
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The volume is constant once every revolution. And since that is happening 10 times a second at idle then its safe to assume to that when you have denser air it is because the pressure has increased or temp or both. But i'm only dealing with pressure beacause its easier.
Volume doesn't have to be constant to increase the density of a fluid.

Explain to me when volume is constant in a otto cycle again? What's the definition of work again? Pdv?
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plane and simple there is no answer to your question (as stated before). The amount of PSI that will break your engine is entirely dependent on what turbo you use, the end. If you search you will see that when a question of this type is asked, people usually tell the person to set a base horsepower level, not PSI level, because there are a million and one ways to get to said horsepower.
You're right there is no exact answer. But there are other engine that have experience on what they have run. Which people have said and which will help me decide on what turbo I want to run.
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I have proved that more boost equals more flow into the engine. You have said it yourself. And thats a fact not a speculation.
Please show me where I said more boost = more flow. I was not aware I made such statements.
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The volume is constant once every revolution.
No, the volume is constantly reducing itself. Again, you can reduce boost pressure in an engine by simply opening the port sizes up. The flow doesn't decrease, the density of air doesn't decrease, but the boost pressure measured drops.

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I have proved that more boost equals more flow into the engine. You have said it yourself. And thats a fact not a speculation.
It CAN'T BE A FACT BECAUSE FACTS AREN'T INCORRECT.
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If you decrease boost/pressure you decrease density.


Changes of density
In general density can be changed by changing either the pressure or the temperature. Increasing the pressure will always increase the density of a material. Increasing the temperature generally decreases the density, but there are notable exceptions to this generalisation. For example, the density of water increases between its melting point at 0 °C and 4 °C and similar behaviour is observed in silicon at low temperatures.

The effect of pressure and temperature on the densities of liquids and solids is small so that a typical compressibility for a liquid or solid is 10–6 bar–1 (1 bar=0.1 MPa) and a typical thermal expansivity is 10–5 K–1.

In contrast, the density of gases is strongly affected by pressure. Boyle's law says that the density of an ideal gas is given by

d=(m*p)/(r*t)


where R is the universal gas constant, P is the pressure, M the molar mass, and T the absolute temperature.

This means that a gas at 300 K and 1 bar will have its density doubled by increasing the pressure to 2 bar or by reducing the temperature to 150 K.

Iridium is the densest known substance at standard conditions for temperature and pressure.
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Idiot is a word derived from the Greek ἰδιώτης, idiōtēs ("person lacking professional skill," "a private citizen," "individual"), from ἴδιος, idios ("private," "one's own").[1] In Latin the word idiota ("ordinary person, layman") preceded the Late Latin meaning "uneducated or ignorant person."[2] Its modern meaning and form dates back to Middle English around the year 1300, from the Old French idiote ("uneducated or ignorant person"). The related word idiocy dates to 1487 and may have been analogously modeled on the words prophet[3] and prophecy.[4][5] The word has cognates in many other languages.

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"Idiot" was originally created to refer to "layman, person lacking professional skill", "person so mentally deficient as to be incapable of ordinary reasoning".[6][7] Declining to take part in public life, such as democratic government of the polis (city state), such as the Athenian democracy, was considered dishonorable. "Idiots" were seen as having bad judgment in public and political matters. Over time, the term "idiot" shifted away from its original connotation of selfishness and came to refer to individuals with overall bad judgment–individuals who are "stupid". In modern English usage, the terms "idiot" and "idiocy" describe an extreme folly or stupidity, and its symptoms (foolish or stupid utterance or deed). In psychology, it is a historical term for the state or condition now called profound mental retardation.[8]
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blahblahb alh i'm a stupid **** who still thinks that the intake tract of a motor has a constant volume
Next. None of the laws you are quoting have any relevance to this argument because the intake volume is not constant.
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Funny thing is the idiot is right. So what does that make u?
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Next. None of the laws you are quoting have any relevance to this argument because the intake volume is not constant.
So when I prove myself right you become alittle crybaby. And volume is constant. You only have so much piping, intercooler, manifold, and combustion chamber. You fill it the same amount every 360 degress.
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So when I prove myself right you become alittle crybaby.
now see look at you, already up to 53 posts, that wasn't that hard now was it?
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hey guys, I bought this manifold on ebay that "do not hit block," does anyone know if I can run 20g's on my turbo?
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so when i prove myself right you become alittle crybaby. And volume is constant. You only have so much piping, intercooler, manifold, and combustion chamber. You fill it the same amount every 360 degress.
direct exhaust injection y0
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