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Old 10-29-2011, 04:49 PM   #1
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Default Which clutch fot a 97 1800 TD04

hi guys,

i'm new here. i mainly work on honda's but a friend asked me to build him a turbo kit for his 1997 1800L miata.

i looked at some clutches on ebay and it seems i cant find any affordable clutch for the project.

the only one thats closest to the XTD pricing is the XTR and that phony Eclutchmaster $%&*#@

does xtd make clutches for the 1997 1.8 ?
or, which clutch would you reccomand for a turbo stock block.

thanks
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What are the power goals for the build? What's the budget?
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Old 10-29-2011, 06:06 PM   #3
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XTD clutches are hit or miss. If I were you (or your friend) I would check into the Flyin' Miata stage 1 clutch. Can hold up to 318 ft lbs of torque. Being that your friend has a stock block, chances are he won't see anything higher than the rating of that clutch. The clutch is about 350$.
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XTD clutches are hit or miss. If I were you (or your friend) I would check into the Flyin' Miata stage 1 clutch. Can hold up to 318 ft lbs of torque. Being that your friend has a stock block, chances are he won't see anything higher than the rating of that clutch. The clutch is about 350$.
thanks guys,

just wondering.
are there any differences in clutch sizes or spline count between the years?


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Old 10-29-2011, 11:51 PM   #5
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+1 on FM level 1 clutch. Best clutch I ever bought.
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thanks guys,

just wondering.
are there any differences in clutch sizes or spline count between the years?


The 1.6 cars had a smaller diameter clutch than the 1.8 cars. In the US the 1.6 cars were '90-'93. The '94-'05 cars were 1.8 and would have the larger clutch diameter. In addition to the Flyin' Miata clutch recommended above, I have had good luck with the ACT HDSS clutch.
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I've owned an XTD and I would never buy another. A cheap clutch was one of the worst mistakes I ever made because it ruined the driveability. It plain sucked in traffic and wore out too quick.
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FMI or ACT HD.
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Another vote for FM. The only reason I don't have one is because I want a 949 clutch.
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Old 10-30-2011, 09:26 PM   #10
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Thanks guys,

ill post pics when i will begin making the manifold
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I must get lucky on the ebay clutches. I need to buy a decent one apparently. I have never had one do me wrong. My next step will be a 949. Going straight from girl territory of the ebay clutch to pure testosterone infused manliness.
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which ebay ones have you used?
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Racepak, what is your location? Just curious.
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i just got done putting my **** together (XTD clutch) the **** wont disengage fully. ordered a spec clutch idk hopefully that sloves my problem.
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I still dunno why people don't just go straight for FMI or FMII.
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I still dunno why people don't just go straight for FMI or FMII.
They have not had the fun experience of changing a clutch 3 times in a week like we have.
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Been running ACT clutches for 6 years, they work good.
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I still dunno why people don't just go straight for FMI or FMII.
Even though they're the best option aside from 949 clutch, that clutch makes me nervous. First of all, what will they do when I break it after the first time I use it, or third? I'm not remotely close to trusting the organic material for longevity or lock-up, it will probably overheat on the track, the only reason I trust the 949 organic clutch is that it's been in a few racecars for extended sessions on track. I also don't like all the little rivets on their clutch, I like the Spec rivets that are the size of a Dime. The springs also do not have clippy-thingies over them like my Spec clutch. Then, it's $700 or so after it gets to your door and it will probably break on the track.

I should note that I haven't like any ACT clutch in my Corrado nor the two I've helped install in Miatas due to the lack of a usable range on the pedal. On both we adjusted the pedal throw and could not get it off the carpet.

I can't really complain about my Spec S3 clutch aside from the heavy-*** flywheel and the slightly jerkey engagement from stop.
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http://forum.miata.net/vb/showpost.p...04&postcount=7
and maybe it wasn't the fault of the cluch:
http://forum.miata.net/vb/showpost.p...4&postcount=18

But it still makes me nervous.

It's still heavy as hell too. I also worry about the surface of the flywheels compared to stock. If the steel on the FM flywheel is soft, the metal in the FM clutch might eat it up really fast.
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you also have different needs than others.
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