87 is the fastest he's been, apparently. the current setup traps 83.

Then there's this guy with an ebay manifold, trapping 93 in 1/8 and 118 in 1/4....
https://www.miataturbo.net/dynos-tim...y-turbo-72172/

That sounds much better.

Assuming the cars weighst about 2400lbs, trapping at 87mph would mean...
232 whp
I used this calculator: Wallace Racing HP Calculator For 1/8th Mile

The wallace racing calculators assume you make a bit more torque than the average 230hp miata.

Torque doesnt matter.

I give up. I haven't posted ANY dyno or any HP numbers. On m.net I said plus or minus 50 whp. I also said estimate. And I said its cutting out. And I can't find 3 rd at the track. Why does everyone care so much about this? And take everything out of context. Makes no sense. Not even good trolling when you take everything out of context. As said new setup only went 83 mph in the 1/8, not 87!

Damn ninjas...

because you're pretty much pioneering this and we want data

I'll share all the data I get. I'm going to quit responding to all the crap post though. I would much rather discuss HOW to make it work than argue about what color an intercooler should be.

Penis flesh color.

I'd be happy with virtual dyno pulls, do one and see how the car is running now for a baseline.

I just read through your thread on Miata.net. Is the fastest MPH you have gone 83.2 in the 1/8th? I saw a reference of 87 MPH but I could not find documentation that you have gone that fast.

Anyway if I may, lets start with the set-up you are currently running. You mentioned that you are going to keep your AFR in the 9's. If you think you are doing this to keep your motor healthy, you are kidding yourself. If you continue to run it like that, you can kiss your cylinder walls goodbye. I recommend that you get your AFR to the tried and trued setting that so many have had success with.

The next thing I would do is make sure you have all your spark issues corrected. You never mentioned the heat range of your plugs. With the turbo you are running, I would go 2 steps colder. Also, you said you were playing around with plug gap. I would stick with between .025 and .030 gap. If you are still having issues with spark, then you need to address the ignitions components.

Then I would work on your timing. If you are smart, you will run race gas at the drag strip until you are confident in your tune, even if you are planning on a conservative pump gas tune. This will give you a margin of safety just in case you make a mistake somewhere.

I would not even consider doing a turbo/supercharger hybrid until you have done all the above. You may find that your priorities change when the car actually runs right. If it were me, I would ditch the blower and use nitrous as your spooling/off the line fix. It is much easier, and has been proven to work.

My :2cents:

Thanks for the advice. I have no intention to run 9.5 AFR once everything is right. Only did that because of high comp and high aits to be safe. It will run 11. Something in boost when sits are in check.

I did buy a new ignition system so yes, that's getting fixed ASAP.

I have 2 heat range cooler race plugs going in too.

And yes, I'll be getting everything sorted before compounding. I don't wanna b old another motor if I don't have to. That head wasn't cheap and took a while to build.

What camshaft are you using?

"Pretty much" being the key part of that statement:

https://www.miataturbo.net/attachmen...ine=1374212885

https://www.miataturbo.net/attachmen...ine=1374212885


It really comes down to this. The SC is going to create some mechanical losses, as we all know, but will allow for more aggressive tuning as long he uses the turbo to make most of the boost and keeps the SC spinning slowly where its efficient.

Besides that pic(s) posted all the time I have yet to see a build thread on that car or shared results and testing and what it even put down, etc.

So if Pat actually documents and shares with us his whole journey (which he intends to, whether its win or fail), he will pretty much pioneer this.

True. although its been done plenty with other cars, even with pretty similar components, such as the god awful M45 poopercharger.

https://www.miataturbo.net/attachmen...ine=1374213766

https://www.miataturbo.net/attachmen...ine=1374213766

Its a balance between parasitic loss of the supercharger and higher IATs post SC'er without an intercooler, and greatly improved scavenging.
What wins out? Its hard to say.

that's funny.

Oh look,
this thread.

Still mildly entertaining.