Compressor surge, pls help
Quick parts list first of all...
1.6 10.5:1 built bottom end, gt2871r, flyin miata intercooler kit, TS BOV, stock valvetrain, stock intake manifold, stock TB
So I chose the bigger turbo cause I'm aiming for higher power, ~350, but this boy really do be surging when I get up on the boost. 20psi and up, my mans starts gobblin like a turkey, and the manifold boost/vac needle cha-chas not so smoothly. The bitch flies, though, and responds great to additional boost above this point.
I probably got the wrong turbo, right? I mean my goals are a bit ambitious, I understand, but that dude with the 500+ 1.6, Mattman, he didn't seem to have this issue in his dyno videos, and he got his **** on stock cams.
Anyway, if you know something I don't please feel free let me know below.
1.6 10.5:1 built bottom end, gt2871r, flyin miata intercooler kit, TS BOV, stock valvetrain, stock intake manifold, stock TB
So I chose the bigger turbo cause I'm aiming for higher power, ~350, but this boy really do be surging when I get up on the boost. 20psi and up, my mans starts gobblin like a turkey, and the manifold boost/vac needle cha-chas not so smoothly. The bitch flies, though, and responds great to additional boost above this point.
I probably got the wrong turbo, right? I mean my goals are a bit ambitious, I understand, but that dude with the 500+ 1.6, Mattman, he didn't seem to have this issue in his dyno videos, and he got his **** on stock cams.
Anyway, if you know something I don't please feel free let me know below.
So I chose the bigger turbo cause I'm aiming for higher power, ~350, but this boy really do be surging when I get up on the boost. 20psi and up, my mans starts gobblin like a turkey, and the manifold boost/vac needle cha-chas not so smoothly. The bitch flies, though, and responds great to additional boost above.....
I haven't laughed that hard in a while...
You hit the "surge" line of your turbo.
Hit it HARD!
Bigger motor is the best fix.
Smaller turbo is another.
Great description however...
If you are in fact encountering compressor surge an anti surge housing as has already been suggested is definitely a step in right direction along with maybe the next larger a/r turbine housing. Will be a little less responsive, but rpm's will be higher when coming on boost, which should help as well. Dont know how you have everything set up but you can fake a larger engine in so far as flow through the compressor by releasing some of the flow with a simple solenoid valve post turbo but before throttle body or any sensing devices. Once rpm is high enough to be past surge line just close valve. Just need a rpm map or switch of some sort. Some big time 4 cylinder drag racers are doing something along this line. Personally I wouldn't call a 2871 too big.
Last edited by Newaza; Mar 10, 2021 at 08:22 AM.
If you are in fact encountering compressor surge an anti surge housing as has already been suggested is definitely a step in right direction along with maybe the next larger a/r turbine housing. Will be a little less responsive, but rpm's will be higher when coming on boost, which should help as well. Dont know how you have everything set up but you can fake a larger engine in so far as flow through the compressor by releasing some of the flow with a simple solenoid valve post turbo but before throttle body or any sensing devices. Once rpm is high enough to be past surge line just close valve. Just need a rpm map or switch of some sort. Some big time 4 cylinder drag racers are doing something along this line. Personally I wouldn't call a 2871 too big.
Ive tuned a B16 with a GTX35, so a 2871 is not inherently "too big" for a 1.6L engine.
The issue is the 2871 is a big compressor on a small turbine. Just going to the next size up exhaust housing should make all the difference. Either that or get a 3071 which can still be had with a t25 flange.
I feel like the turbine housing is fixing the problem at the source, as opposed to the anti-surge compressor housing which is more like a band-aid.
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