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Old 10-28-2007, 01:39 AM   #1
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Finished mine up today. Looks like everyone elses except I cut away a whole lot more of the coils.

It was pretty easy to wire the things up since I had four spare wires and power already run through the firewall. The hardest part was getting the pinout info from Hydra and finding spare pins (oh that reminds me, I need to order more). Luckily there was a random loop from one unused pin to another unused pin so I used those. Weird.

So all I had to do in the hydra software was uncheck the "wasted spark" box and upload the map. Did that, turned the key and the thing fired right up. Seemed very smooth.

I went back and updated the map to match the dwell data Jason Cuadra extracted. I haven't run that map yet. Tomorrow.

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oh and one finished-ish. pre silicone wrapping tape on the harness.


ta and da.
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Old 10-28-2007, 02:03 AM   #2
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Total costs, sources for all the bits, etc?
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Old 10-28-2007, 02:06 AM   #3
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Jesus savington, there are tons of threads on this ****. The coils are $30-80, connectors $0-35(junkyard, or ordered components), wires ~$5, hardware/bracketry ~$10.
Easily done for under $100 if you get the coils cheap enough.
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Ya sav, get outta the ******* stone age :P
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i wonder if there's anything about it in the archives?!
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Who woulda thought?

Looks awesome Matt, i still need 2 more COPs.
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I just heard about an M.netter somehow spending $400 on it, so I was a bit curious to hear what he specifically had spent.
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Thats a ridiculous amount to spend on the COP conversion. My coils, luckily came with connectors , and only cost me $60 shipped. If you have to make the connectors yourself I don't see you spending over $100.
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I just heard about an M.netter somehow spending $400 on it, so I was a bit curious to hear what he specifically had spent.
That because that individual is an idiot. It cost them that much because they went to the dealer and bought brand new COPs. Used ones just weren't good enough for them.
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Old 10-28-2007, 11:33 AM   #10
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Good job [email protected] I'm curious to know your impressions once you get some miles on them.
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Old 10-28-2007, 12:17 PM   #11
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Total costs, sources for all the bits, etc?
I'll humor you just so it's on the record.

Coils from Lazzer: $70
Connectors from Toyota w/out pins: $20
pins from scott: $0
Wire, screws, labor, that piece of metal, all in my garage. Lets call that $20.

So I guess that's 110 bucks ready to rock.
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The cops are still fired by the factory igniter right, so you still run with wasted spark?

How would you go about making a MS control every COP individually?

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Btw, Y8S, what was the original intent for the bolt holes on your valve cover that you used to hold the cops down?

Can you please post a picture of your wiring, where you tapped into the harness.

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Old 10-28-2007, 01:58 PM   #13
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The cops are still fired by the factory igniter right, so you still run with wasted spark?

How would you go about making a MS control every COP individually?
no. i have a hydra. it fires everything. and with the COP, they have ignitors built into them. the hydra has four ignition outputs so I run sequential ignition.

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Btw, Y8S, what was the original intent for the bolt holes on your valve cover that you used to hold the cops down?

Can you please post a picture of your wiring, where you tapped into the harness.

the bolt holes on my 01 held the original 2 coil on plug coils.

I can't post a picture but it wouldn't help you anyway since it just runs four wires through the firewall into the hydra, not the factory harness.
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What gauge wiring did you use? 16? 18? I'll probably fab up the harness in the next week or so.

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I'll humor you just so it's on the record.

Coils from Lazzer: $70
Connectors from Toyota w/out pins: $20
pins from scott: $0
Wire, screws, labor, that piece of metal, all in my garage. Lets call that $20.

So I guess that's 110 bucks ready to rock.
I would send you 150 for a set for me. Im to lazy i know
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I think 16 for the power and ground. Maybe 20-22 for the triggers.

Magna, my headline under my user name should make it clear that I'm gonna say "no". I generally wont do random work for others if it's not charged at $200/hr labor rate or takes less than 5-10 minutes or has the person standing next to me working on it with me (+beer).

That said, the ignition worked fine today on the way to work. 25 miles so far and flawless running. Thats even with the gap opened up to .040 on the iridiums. I'm curious to see if I run into misfire problems.

She pulled strong though I didn't many chances to wring it out with all the traffic. I did get a solid datalog for the whole distance FINALLY*.



* IOGear usb-serial adapter sucks my *****. I bit the bullet and spent the ca$h on a PCMCIA-serial adapter and it's flawless. IO Gear usb-serial for sale for $15 shipped.
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If I'da known, I've got a PCMCIA-Serial that I got with the car that I don't use. My crappy lappy has a serial port.

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I need a crappy lappy with a com port. This usb to serial **** is killing me softly.
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I picked up a 1G Armada for $200. Decent size, runs Win2K, serial. I had to buy a new battery though for like $50 off ebay.

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want a dell 8600 that wont charge its own battery but works fine on 12v adapters?
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