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EO2K 02-27-2017 12:43 PM

Well, that's one way to make your plug wires shorter.

ryansmoneypit 02-27-2017 12:46 PM

Pretty cool. lets see a pic of the boot set up.

aidandj 02-27-2017 12:46 PM

I like it. I would come up with a way to bolt them down though. I've had cops come loose before.

EO2K 02-27-2017 12:49 PM


Originally Posted by ryansmoneypit (Post 1395589)
Pretty cool. lets see a pic of the boot set up.

This. Times eleventybillion.

I :likecat:'d you BRG21, don't fail me now.

rleete 02-27-2017 12:56 PM


Originally Posted by aidandj (Post 1395590)
I like it. I would come up with a way to bolt them down though. I've had cops come loose before.

Agreed. I even had plug wires work loose. But those coils look to have brackets, so it shouldn't be too hard to fab something.

BRG21 02-27-2017 11:49 PM

Hey guys! I apologize, haven't been on all day. Anyway i went on another junkyard hunt for a boot that might work better. What i came up with was a book off a Dodge Intrepid. it needs to be trimmed down just a bit but it works. But to be honest, Im not a fan of how it sits and really would rather do the Protege/Miata setup. Anyway, here are the pictures! I agree with you guys about the mounts, it fairly easy to make some sing they come with brackets.
(Dodge boot striped) (miata/protege boot is two piece)https://cimg4.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.mia...859a729ea1.jpgProtege/Miata
https://cimg5.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.mia...d61cf89239.jpgProtege/Miata
https://cimg6.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.mia...a6eed4d735.jpgProtege/Miata
https://cimg7.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.mia...043b9d19e9.jpgDodge
https://cimg8.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.mia...c1702d2afc.jpgComparison

nbfather 02-28-2017 05:42 PM

I like this idea BRG21!
Do you thing there will be any hood clearance issues by the time you get the wire loom on?
The right bracket might allow a longitudinal piece to attach the wire loom in a neat fashion?
Could be a great idea!
Props!

BRG21 02-28-2017 10:59 PM

I don't think there will be any hood clearance issues as all considering the SadFab mount sits on top of the valve cover bump and is considerably taller than this setup, wiring and all.

kalata8662 04-19-2017 04:52 AM

Hello everyone, thank you for the great information resource ! One of my ignition coils appears to be going out, so I'm probably going to switch to COP. I've looked through most of the thread, but I can't find this info - is the trigger signal from the Miata positive or negative? As far as I understand, most igniters have both positive and negative input, but the COP have only one input. Do the Toyota COP take positive or negative trigger signal?

aidandj 04-19-2017 08:16 AM

I'm going to assume when you say positive and negative you mean a logic high or low signal. Miata coils are triggered by a 5v logic high signal.

I have about 7 Toyota COPS and a bracket for a 1.6 for sale.

DNMakinson 04-21-2017 03:17 PM


Originally Posted by aidandj (Post 1407188)
I'm going to assume when you say positive and negative you mean a logic high or low signal. Miata coils are triggered by a 5v logic high signal.

I have about 7 Toyota COPS and a bracket for a 1.6 for sale.

PM sent

kalata8662 04-22-2017 07:14 AM


Originally Posted by aidandj (Post 1407188)
I'm going to assume when you say positive and negative you mean a logic high or low signal. Miata coils are triggered by a 5v logic high signal.

I have about 7 Toyota COPS and a bracket for a 1.6 for sale.

Thank you, I don't think it's worth it with the delivery costs, I'm gonna by some from around here. The other thing I'm considering is to use an old school separate Igniter, like on the 90-93 mk1 model, and use it with two old school large coils cause they are very cheap - 5-10$ a piece. That's why I'm asking about the trigger signal, cause apparently I'd have to search for an Igniter that takes positive pulse.

DNMakinson 04-23-2017 06:06 PM


Originally Posted by kalata8662 (Post 1407968)
Thank you, I don't think it's worth it with the delivery costs, I'm gonna by some from around here. The other thing I'm considering is to use an old school separate Igniter, like on the 90-93 mk1 model, and use it with two old school large coils cause they are very cheap - 5-10$ a piece. That's why I'm asking about the trigger signal, cause apparently I'd have to search for an Igniter that takes positive pulse.

Oh, please realize I was not trying to buy these out from under you. Adiandj had 7 and I only wanted 1 or 2 of them.

THATGUY6258 05-01-2017 01:14 PM

I thought I would contribute a picture of my economy Toyota coil setup. still running stock engine management, noticed a huge difference worth every penny. note that there is some temporary foam under the bracket till I get a hold of some thing a little more permanent. also I should add there is a spacer under the strip holding the valve cover down and leaving a 2mm space between the coils and the bar for the foam to fill. any one have any thoughts on where to by 400 degree adhesive backed foam padding?

https://cimg4.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.mia...445e00f29b.jpg

rleete 05-01-2017 05:22 PM

Use silicone rubber instead.

PSI 04-26-2018 01:07 PM

I bought a used toyota COP setup for my 1.6, and cylinders 1 and 2 are not firing. I would understand if 1 and 4 or 2 and 3 weren't firing because they share the same trigger. I have swapped around coils and still no spark on 1 and 2. Any suggestions on where to begin testing?

acedeuce802 04-26-2018 01:14 PM

Check continuity in the harness for coils 1 and 2.

PSI 04-26-2018 02:03 PM

A quick continuity check shows that 1 and 3 and 2 and 4 are incorrectly triggered together. I could swap 1 and 2, but the harness is too short. Guess its time to break out the soldering iron.

pmhellings 05-01-2018 09:24 PM

I'm not sure if I ever posted my solution for LS coils on my VVT Miata. I didn't want to give up the shock tower brace sohad some limitations for mounting the coils. Wound up using a generic e-bay bracket that I modded by welding on an extra piece for support by tying into the stock COP bolt hole. Shortened up the GM harness and used some do it yourself Magnecor wires. Used the wiring diagram from Flyin Miata and tied into the Hydra following their instructions. The whole setup cost about $175.

Paulhttps://cimg1.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.mia...116d17d386.jpgLS coils on VVT Miata with modded eBay bracket.

Pedxing 10-29-2018 11:56 PM

Hey all, I completed my basic Toyota cops build with no problems thanks to info here. One change I did was go for the new coil pack connectors that Ballenger offers: CONN-86032.
This gives plug and play on the 94 and up coil pack plugs on the car side. ( Didn't see any one else posting about this yet on this thread).

Here's the process I did (how to video format):



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