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spencerh22 10-04-2018 02:28 PM


Originally Posted by 18psi (Post 1504943)
you're not using boost control of any sort and tee-ing off the compressor outlet.........

.,.............and wondering why your spool sucks? lol

Ok want me to tee of manifold and move my map signal to the comp outlet? :)

spencerh22 10-04-2018 02:30 PM


Originally Posted by 90civichhb (Post 1504935)
is your valve cover PCV port just open to atmosphere on both side? That seems like a fire just waiting to happen to me.

You’re probably getting some wastegate flex with that mounting solution. My car feels very lazy on just wastegate spring. It’s only like 6psi and I don’t see that until 4K rpm or so. Get some sort of WG control on the car. Also that crunched downpipe isn’t doing you any favors.

The 1.6 has a great oil feed on the block you can use and right next to it is a water feed, which looks like you choose not to even water cool the turbo. Kinda questionable but I’ve seen people do that after cracking a feed line on track.

Yeah the wastegate flex was a concern of mine, this was just temporary so i could drive around definetly gonna figure out a more secure mounting location. Also, didn’t really see water cooling as a nessecity as i didn’t want coolant temps to rise, and it’s just a street car.

18psi 10-04-2018 02:36 PM

both should be off the IM. that's for starters.

it seems to me like you made some incorrect assumptions and now puzzled over a problem that you created

spencerh22 10-04-2018 02:53 PM


Originally Posted by 18psi (Post 1504961)
both should be off the IM. that's for starters.

it seems to me like you made some incorrect assumptions and now puzzled over a problem that you created

The map signal part was a joke, i’ve thought about gettin wg signal from IM, but didn’t think it would give me much a difference. I’ll give it a shot tonight and see.

18psi 10-04-2018 02:59 PM

:likecat:

muthagoose 10-04-2018 03:19 PM


Originally Posted by yossi126 (Post 1504955)
Basically an fm kit.
Looks to me that your wastegate rod is too long. That can hurt spool.

Thats what i would be thinking, wastegate isnt holding shut as tight as it needs to be. Looks to be some slip in that rod. Try tightening, or spacing wastegate bracket with washers.

And/or some sort of boost control as others have mentioned.

spencerh22 10-04-2018 04:16 PM


Originally Posted by muthagoose (Post 1504971)
Thats what i would be thinking, wastegate isnt holding shut as tight as it needs to be. Looks to be some slip in that rod. Try tightening, or spacing wastegate bracket with washers.

And/or some sort of boost control as others have mentioned.

Rod is preloading to quiet an extent. Ebc will be on its way this week, just haven’t needed one but i suppose it’s time.

andyfloyd 10-04-2018 04:54 PM

Do a test, unhook the WG signal line and see if spool improves. Be careful as there will be no boost control but this will tell you if your losing spool through the wg cracking open early.

18psi 10-04-2018 04:58 PM

That's a good test, but set your overboost to 5psi

spencerh22 10-04-2018 05:04 PM

Already did that, spool is slightly faster. Boost controller is ordered as well so maybe i can use the bottom port on my wastegate to keep it shut.

irollgen4s 10-06-2018 10:26 AM

Anybody have any logs to post up with their respective setup? have always been curious about 1.6 spool with different manifolds and exhausts despite everybody sh!tting on it for being inferior to the 1.8.

I'd really like to see a journal bearing 2560 vs a BB 2560 as well.

next time i have my car out i'll try to grab a 4th gear log. i've always kept my eye on the spool data thread but it's obviously very 1.8 dominated.

sixshooter 10-06-2018 05:30 PM

See the "I want your spool data" thread already in existence.

andyfloyd 10-08-2018 09:26 AM


Originally Posted by irollgen4s (Post 1505252)
Anybody have any logs to post up with their respective setup? have always been curious about 1.6 spool with different manifolds and exhausts despite everybody sh!tting on it for being inferior to the 1.8.

I'd really like to see a journal bearing 2560 vs a BB 2560 as well.

next time i have my car out i'll try to grab a 4th gear log. i've always kept my eye on the spool data thread but it's obviously very 1.8 dominated.

There is no difference in boost onset with a Journal T28 and a GT2560R.


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