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Old 02-04-2008, 10:18 PM   #1
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Default Did anyone notice the new BEGi setup with the charge pipes on top?

Did anyone notice the new BEGi setup with the charge pipes on top and a bunch of other things:

http://www.bellengineering.net/Pages/news_bader.html
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i've got to change my pants after seeing that crankshaft :fm:
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you're only 5 months behind, don't feel bad :gay:
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Looks like a one off so probably not relevant for production kits. Coolant routing is a little strange though. Electric pump, water entering between 1-2 & 3-4 on both sides of the head, exiting front and rear. Wonder if the water flow between 2-3 could be less than the outer cylinders. Two radiators with an A/C condenser in between?
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Over the rad charge pipes are the obvious choice except that no full F/I kit vendor is willing to try to market kits that require hacking away the rad support to install the kit. So the awkward and inefficient side inlet/outlet style seems to be the status quo.

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you're only 5 months behind, don't feel bad :gay:
oh, well ...
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Looks like a one off so probably not relevant for production kits. Coolant routing is a little strange though. Electric pump, water entering between 1-2 & 3-4 on both sides of the head, exiting front and rear. Wonder if the water flow between 2-3 could be less than the outer cylinders. Two radiators with an A/C condenser in between?
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Over the rad charge pipes are the obvious choice except that no full F/I kit vendor is willing to try to market kits that require hacking away the rad support to install the kit. So the awkward and inefficient side inlet/outlet style seems to be the status quo. Thankfully TDR was bold enough to produce the very nice I/C kits he does. If the TDR used Taiwanese cores they would probably cost half as much, sell 3x as many and no would care that they are not US made cores. You listening Gary?
Yeap, that's how I see it.
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If the system proves to work as we anticipate, then it will be a production item. He have patterns, spec, etc. on all the parts used. Corky is hoping the IC on top will provide for faster turbo response. So we will see!
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someone could use the intercooler from a 944 turbo and a custom/specifically sized radiator and make their own.
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Over the rad charge pipes are the obvious choice except that no full F/I kit vendor is willing to try to market kits that require hacking away the rad support to install the kit. So the awkward and inefficient side inlet/outlet style seems to be the status quo. Thankfully TDR was bold enough to produce the very nice I/C kits he does. If the TDR used Taiwanese cores they would probably cost half as much, sell 3x as many and no would care that they are not US made cores. You listening Gary?
As another vendor...please email him.

At the price, its not worth it...if they did that....that'd be sick. Even basic IC mounting, some minimum outlet pipes and couples would be good...guys can DIY from there.
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So is there a duct routing air to the IC? From looking at the pictures it looks like an odd place that wouldn't get that much air. But on the flip side, I think it is the best looking IC setup I have ever seen and I really really really want one like it when I go turbo. I wish the s-series came with an IC like that.
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So is there a duct routing air to the IC? From looking at the pictures it looks like an odd place that wouldn't get that much air. But on the flip side, I think it is the best looking IC setup I have ever seen and I really really really want one like it when I go turbo. I wish the s-series came with an IC like that.
Looks like both radiators are half height and taking the lower part of the nose. And the intercooler is on top with no radiator in front of it (just the AC condenser)
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So is there a duct routing air to the IC? From looking at the pictures it looks like an odd place that wouldn't get that much air. But on the flip side, I think it is the best looking IC setup I have ever seen and I really really really want one like it when I go turbo. I wish the s-series came with an IC like that.
Yes there is. It is hard to photograph, but it is there. The Air Dam routes air to the IC and also to the radiators.
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Why is this posted under DIY?
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