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Old 06-10-2009, 10:06 PM   #41
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IDK but in my opinion doing the intercooler like you is ******* stupid!
who the funk is this guy talking to?
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Old 06-10-2009, 10:34 PM   #42
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In all seriousness, I think the vast majority of us, whether we're going over, under, or around the radiator, are running a significant portion of our charge piping directly behind it.

So far as I am aware, this has not yet caused the Guadalupe River to turn to blood.

BTW, have you noticed that a weasel is precisely the correct shape and size already? You wouldn't even have to slit it lengthwise. Just hollow it out from the ends and slip the pipe through it like a sleeve.
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Old 06-11-2009, 09:00 AM   #43
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If the charge pipes are absorbing some of the heat the radiator is... radiating.... you're expecting the air passing through the hot pipes to not get compromised? That's bold.

Take a map torch to an aluminum pipe, get it to 200*F, blow air at turbo-psi (10psi, whatever) through the pipe and tell me the air coming out the other end isn't warmer than the air going in.

Not to be rude but this is like 3rd grade 101...
Last time I checked they don't teach heat transfer in 3rd grade lol.

Seriously, your're completly overstating the heat transfer effect. At 100 dec C 99% of the heat transfer is convective and air is not moving in the right direction to heat the IC pipes if they are in front. The worst case is having them behind, as I do. This still doesn't matter, the effect is nearly zero.

Even though it's called a "radiator", the radiation is nearly zero at that temp.
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Not to mention the air on that side of the IC is pretty hot already.
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Last time I checked they don't teach heat transfer in 3rd grade lol..
Yes but a 3rd grader knows better than to touch a frying pan while sitting atop a hot stove. Which is basically what I'm referring to. A pipe sitting on top of the radiator will become a hot pipe.

I was making my statements regarding the pipes laying across the top of the radiator, not sitting in front of it.

Listen fellas, while you're all pointing fingers at me, I'm pointing fingers at the weasel.

/end my association with this thread.
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Old 06-11-2009, 09:55 PM   #46
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Yes but a 3rd grader knows better than to touch a frying pan while sitting atop a hot stove. Which is basically what I'm referring to. A pipe sitting on top of the radiator will become a hot pipe.

I was making my statements regarding the pipes laying across the top of the radiator, not sitting in front of it.

Listen fellas, while you're all pointing fingers at me, I'm pointing fingers at the weasel.

/end my association with this thread.
What I'm telling you is that the effect is so small that it's rediculous to consider. You'll need an education better than 3rd grade to appreciate that though.
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So far as I am aware, this has not yet caused the Guadalupe River to turn to blood.
If that happened, it would be a huge scab. Damn drought
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You guys w/ your low blows. Jesus... man up and say it already you inflamed vagina(s).
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It could be worse. The guy I got my car (a '93) from tried to run the intercooler piping under the passenger side head light. Naturally it interferes with the headlights being lowered so he just left them up and disconnected the wires from the headlight motor to the lights. Anybody got a photos/tips/links as to how to do it more effectively? Just looking to get a headstart on the project.

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I don't understand over the radiator. sure it's easy to route but you're picking up all that heat pre/post intercooler. Anyone read intake temps w/ an over the radiator setup? I wonder if the IC is event able to lower the temp of the charge air.
Um, no. All my pipes are mild steel, and they really do not get that hot. Maybe ~115 degrees, and my IATs are not much over ambient @ 15psi, so I'd say that my intercooler is doing an amazing job.

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As long as there is an air space between the pipe and the radiator it shouldn't be too bad in terms of heat transfer as air is not a good conductor. Likewise mild steel is not a great conductor compared to aluminum. Stainless steel is an even poorer conductor, but can weigh a lot. I quess a reflective wrap/sleeve around the pipe wouldn't hurt. Still hoping to see some photos of other ways to route my pipe to the intercooler on my NA wthout disabling the headlight.
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BTW, have you noticed that a weasel is precisely the correct shape and size already? You wouldn't even have to slit it lengthwise. Just hollow it out from the ends and slip the pipe through it like a sleeve.
That image is great. Leave it bloody and messy, and leave the head on and run the BOV through its mouth. I'd love to do that to **** of some PETA members.
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...Stainless steel is an even poorer conductor, but can weigh a lot...
I love my home-made SS IC pipes, probably weight a couple of pounds for the whole lot.
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Nice work, I hope to try my own fabrication skills.
I can cut and paste, but not weld yet.
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Old 06-27-2009, 03:11 PM   #55
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Alpina turbo? BMW by chance? I don't have enough posts to send you a PM yet.
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