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Old 05-03-2009, 02:07 AM   #1
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Question diy non intercooled turbo setup

ok iv been thinkin about diy n a simple non intercooled setup for low boost maby 4-5psi
ive made a list of stuff i think id need so correct me if im wrong

16g turbo
manafold and down pipe
oil return line
crossover tube with bov
fpr

i know im missing stuff so plz help
i just want to learn how it works and i dont want to spend 1500 on a greddy kit when i can learn how it works
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I'd highly recommend something to control timing such as a bipes unless you want it to run like a dog retarded to 6 degrees btdc timing-wise.
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did you even try the damn search button??!! or read the FAQ's??!! man oh man, this is irritating!! and go introduce yourself here Meet and Greet - Miata Turbo Forum - Home of the turbo Mazda Miata.
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i just want to learn how it works and i dont want to spend 1500 on a greddy kit when i can learn how it works
WTF? I am the only one scratching my head on this statement/ grammar issue???
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ok iv been thinkin about diy n a simple non intercooled setup for low boost maby 4-5psi
ive made a list of stuff i think id need so correct me if im wrong

16g turbo
manafold and down pipe
oil return line
crossover tube with bov
fpr

i know im missing stuff so plz help
i just want to learn how it works and i dont want to spend 1500 on a greddy kit when i can learn how it works
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WTF? I am the only one scratching my head on this statement/ grammar issue???
I'm still trying to figure out what a manafold is and where do I get one.
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wait what's a torbocharger? And why do they belong to that ad?
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Must be one helluva cool turbocharger if there is no oil feed line, only a return line. Turbo must be producing its own oil. I need to get one of those, I'll save tons on oil and never have to worry about changing it.

Thats it, I'm changing my setup. Here is a list of things I think I'll need:

torbocharger
intercooler
boost controller
injectors

what do you guys think? I dont want to pay 1500 for a kit when learning how it works will make my car boosted. Thanx guys




*On a serious note though, OP you really need to use the search function. There are literally hundreds of threads here with absolutely every piece of info that you need to successfully boost your car and achieve your goals. Before you do that it would be a good idea to make an intro thread so we at least know that you're not some ******* wasting our time, then fill out your profile so with location and what not so that we know where you are, fill out your sig with what you already have, and lastly: PLEASE try to at least put a tiny bit of effort into spelling/grammar so your post doesn't look like that turd I flushed down the toilet a few hours ago. If you put in a bit of effort to be a decent forum member you'll be surprised at how nice the folks here will become

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no man you forgot your mullet and a six pack of beer that is.....lol
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i told u i was a turbo noob
rather than bashing my literacry will you help me out
im sorry if if u think i didnt i looked at the threads
i did
and the redneck comment
the redneck is the ***** ****** up the street that calls my car a girls car every day.
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^bs dude, u didnt read ****

hit search, go advanced and type in diy, and only select the diy turbo subforum

then read the 423,456,722 treads on the subject...

and have fun being pissed when 50% of those threads are just as dumb as this because people dont bother seeing if the topic was covered before

Geee, look a turbo miata forum...hmm, let me post my question about a starter turbo setup cuz I seriously doubt any of the previous 50,000 members have ever considered something as unique as this....
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This forum is really hard on noobs so just get use to it, I have a FPR if you want it pm me. you ill also need a cone air filter I sell them if you want one of those too. AMSOIL Ea Air Induction Filters (EaAU) and if you order use reference number 1606736. If you want to make sure you get everything you need look up a FM or BEGI kit and run down the parts list.
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Old 05-03-2009, 01:36 PM   #12
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Buy the Greddy kit. You are starting from zero knowledge, so why try build a turbo system when you have no idea? Get the greddy, install it yourself, understand what is going on, and then sell the kit and build your own (if you really want to).

And yes, this has been covered a zillion times.
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ok iv been thinkin about diy n a simple non intercooled setup for low boost maby 4-5psi
ive made a list of stuff i think id need so correct me if im wrong

16g turbo
manafold and down pipe
oil return line
crossover tube with bov
fpr

i know im missing stuff so plz help
i just want to learn how it works and i dont want to spend 1500 on a greddy kit when i can learn how it works
Just re-quoting the whole original message so we can refresh. There's not really a question here, but I interpret the line "i know im missing stuff so plz help" to mean that the OP wants us to tell him what he is missing.

The first thing would be a fourth-grade equivalency in grammar, spelling, and punctuation skills. And I'm completely serious about this. By and large, things which are written in the style and tone of your message tend to be ignored (or worse, derided) not just here but in the world at large. Presumably you will at some point be attempting to join the workforce, and I assume you know that no employer would even bother to wipe his *** with a resume which in any way resembles what you've written here.

I know, you're one of those folks who had adopted "texting" as their primary means of communication, where that sort of thing is the norm. Well, tough. The shift key and the punctuation keys are there for a reason. And if you have trouble remembering that the word "please" has two "E"s, an "A", and an "S" in it, many spell-checking programs are available.


Moving to the more serious side, the second thing you are missing is knowledge. Before you go any further, you need to buy and read this book. Yeah, I know it'll reduce your total budget by $23.07, but trust me, you need this.


Third, you're asking a really tough question, and I don't think you realize this. You want to build a "16g" turbo setup, you think $1,500 is too much to pay, and yet we don't even know what parts you already have. Assuming you don't own a TIG welder (ie: you're going to have to buy your manifold and pipes) it's gonna be interesting. Even a Chinese-made knockoff turbo is gonna eat up 1/3 of your "budget". So you're not really being a realist about this.


So try and understand why the folks here aren't just falling over themselves to spoon-feed you information.
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I'll put the flaming for grammar and searching aside as most everyone has covered that quite well.

I was in the same position of having very very little knowledge about what goes into a turbo setup when I began here. Ultimately, it took a lot of reading. Hell, I had to google 'wastegate' to find diagrams to figure out what the thing does because written descriptions were too confusing to me.
I would really recommend a Greddy kit - I went with it because I didn't want to take on the hurdle of actually piecing a diy kit together with so little turbo knowledge. It is exactly what you want, 5 psi, no intercooler, and you could probably be happy for a while if you just want a slight bump in power.
If you are dead set on not intercooling, though that may change as you learn, I would say add water injection to your list.

-Ryan

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Yep I saw this coming,Like a kid playing in the street.Sorry It has to happen this way.
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i told u i was a turbo noob
rather than bashing my literacry will you help me out
im sorry if if u think i didnt i looked at the threads
i did
and the redneck comment
the redneck is the ***** ****** up the street that calls my car a girls car every day.
You sound absolutely retarded. Go do a search and read the FAQ.
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ok iv been thinkin about diy n a simple non intercooled setup for low boost maby 4-5psi
ive made a list of stuff i think id need so correct me if im wrong

16g turbo
manafold and down pipe
oil return line
crossover tube with bov
fpr

i know im missing stuff so plz help
i just want to learn how it works and i dont want to spend 1500 on a greddy kit when i can learn how it works

one thing that you will need is a fuel pump! i recommend a walboro 190hp, you can get it for fairly cheep, a duel feed fuel rail and bigger injectors will also help.....and as far a boost range.... you should be able to run up to 8psi of boost un-intercooled.
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Yeah,you don't need any of those to run 5-6psi, so maybe you should back out of this thread too.
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Yeah,you don't need any of those to run 5-6psi, so maybe you should back out of this thread too.
if you noticed i said 8psi, i know he said 4-5psi.............the fuel pump, injectors, and fuel rail help feed any form of FI.....id appreciate it if you backed off!
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