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cjernigan 04-07-2008 01:06 AM

From Ghetto T25 2 T3 whizbanger
 
Got home about 3pm today and tore the car to pieces. Not all of it, just the turbo setup. Over the past year i've been buying bits and pieces while deals come up once in a while to swap over to a much nicer T3 setup. That consists of a BEGI S5 manifold and SS downpipe and a T3-60 trim. Going to continue using the Tial WG because it works perfect.

This swap is going to consist of removing my current T25 setup that came on my car that happens to be pretty much junk as well as redoing the hotside IC plumbing and many other things that I don't feel are up to par on the car. While I have it all torn apart i'm going to do a timing belt and water pump swap while I can.

I also have a GS radiator, FM sways, and a few other things to install, fab, or modify. Hopefully it all comes together well.

I would post the pictures here but that would require effort, instead here are half of the pictures from today.
T25 Setup Removal
T3 Setup Mockup

For those too lazy, here are some highlights:
Cracked Manifold
http://tokrv.net/cjernigan/t3upgrade...mbnails/18.jpg
Cracked Downpipe
http://tokrv.net/cjernigan/t3upgrade...mbnails/12.jpg
Hardened Drain Line (1 year old, adding 4" extesion next time to keep this from happening)
http://tokrv.net/cjernigan/t3upgrade...umbnails/2.jpg
Leaking Exhaust Mani Gasket At Cyl #4
http://tokrv.net/cjernigan/t3upgrade...mbnails/40.jpg

New stuff that will be installed soon:
http://tokrv.net/cjernigan/begiprodu...mbnails/23.jpghttp://tokrv.net/cjernigan/begi/begi-Thumbnails/24.jpg

cjernigan 04-07-2008 01:09 AM

Oh and I forgot to add. While tearing the car apart today I discovered all kinds of neat things.
-The $100 T25 is tight as a whistle and could definitely be run again by someone else the way it is.
-My manifold cracked at the collector, it had been repaired once and it cracked down the weld. All this was done by the previous owner.
-My WG outlet tube had cracked as well, the crack goes around atleast half of the tube and it was cracking on the inside of the flange as well. This is part of the cause of my slow spooling.
-I had an exhaust leak at CYL#4 between the manifold and the head it appears though i'm not 100% positive. You be the judge by the gasket. I also had a leak at two of the Tial WG gaskets. I also had a leak between the turbo and the manifold as well as between the turbo and the downpipe.
All of these leaks were caused because of failed gaskets, no gasket = no failure. Atleast that is the route we're going to try with the new setup.

coastertrav 04-07-2008 01:40 AM

So why did the mani crack? That sucks terrible as I just bought one to use with my setup.

Ben 04-07-2008 09:18 AM


Originally Posted by cjernigan (Post 239222)
While I have it all torn apart i'm going to do a timing belt and water pump swap while I can.

$104 tensioner and idler pulleys
http://www.trademotion.com/partlocat...&siteid=214861
if the link doesn't work, go to www.mazdapartszone.com, and search for part number B6S0-1-2207-MV. Also add in part B660-12-711C ($3 tensioner spring). Should be free shipping too.

levnubhin 04-07-2008 09:18 AM

Looks like fun man, cant wait to see it when its done. I wish I could find time to work on my car.
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m2cupcar 04-07-2008 10:18 AM

I agree- gaskets are bad idea in turbo apps. They NEVER worked for me. Two flat surfaces with good torque ftw. We'll miss your ghetto EWG tubing fo sho. :sadwavey:

Zabac 04-07-2008 10:30 AM


Originally Posted by levnubhin (Post 239288)
Looks like fun man, cant wait to see it when its done. I wish I could find time to work on my car.

A-fucking-men i hear ya man...have not seen my car in about a month :mad:

way to go Chad, your car will appreciate you more now and may stop cracking parts, lol
send PM to MUSANOVIC, i think he might have solved the issue of gaskets for once and for all, ask him to explain what he did as i don't remember exactly, but it works...good luck man

96rdstr 04-07-2008 10:35 AM


Originally Posted by Ben (Post 239287)
$104 tensioner and idler pulleys
http://www.trademotion.com/partlocat...&siteid=214861
if the link doesn't work, go to www.mazdapartszone.com, and search for part number B6S0-1-2207-MV. Also add in part B660-12-711C ($3 tensioner spring). Should be free shipping too.


Cool. You might as well replace the cam and crank seals while your at it. I used Rosenthal Mazda(finishlineperformance) out of VA. I just replaced the clutch, cam seals, front and rear tranny seals, rear main, crank seal, water pump, motor mounts, water pump, tensioner spring, timing belt, oil pan seals, cam cover gasket. They have a timing belt kit as well, like 80 dollars or so, and a new water pump and gaskets for like 60 bucks, but you pay for shipping.

Zabac 04-07-2008 10:56 AM

rosenthal is ok with prices, i still think the best price is if you go to the dealership and make buddies with the parts guy/guys
ex: i got a TB kit and WP for $105 after tax...i buy from the same guy everytime, he knows i'll be back b/c of the hook up...

96rdstr 04-07-2008 11:01 AM


Originally Posted by Zabac (Post 239341)
rosenthal is ok with prices, i still think the best price is if you go to the dealership and make buddies with the parts guy/guys
ex: i got a TB kit and WP for $105 after tax...i buy from the same guy everytime, he knows i'll be back b/c of the hook up...

The dealership near my house is full-o-dill holes. They refuse to match Rosenthal's prices, even with shipping. So screw them. I only use them for the oil filter and crush washer.

levnubhin 04-07-2008 11:08 AM


Originally Posted by Zabac (Post 239329)
A-fucking-men i hear ya man...have not seen my car in about a month :mad:

way to go Chad, your car will appreciate you more now and may stop cracking parts, lol
send PM to MUSANOVIC, i think he might have solved the issue of gaskets for once and for all, ask him to explain what he did as i don't remember exactly, but it works...good luck man


I feel your pain bro, I havent started my car in over a week.

FWIW, I used ebay TB/WP kit over a year ago with no problems.
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/94-05...spagenameZWDVW
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Rafa 04-07-2008 11:11 AM

Great news Chad; I guess I'll have to send you the 3" Enthuza Midpipe and exhaust now! ;)

sbrian2 04-07-2008 01:11 PM


Originally Posted by Zabac (Post 239341)
rosenthal is ok with prices, i still think the best price is if you go to the dealership and make buddies with the parts guy/guys
ex: i got a TB kit and WP for $105 after tax...i buy from the same guy everytime, he knows i'll be back b/c of the hook up...

No, the best price is through Mazda Motorsports, I think members get prices cheaper than the dealer. :)

cjernigan 04-07-2008 01:51 PM

I just applied for a Mazda Motorsports membership. Hopefully they process it in the next day or two so I can get this stuff by friday. If not I'll make due or i'll order from Rosenthal.

Braineack 04-07-2008 01:55 PM

it takes them a while....

Zabac 04-07-2008 01:56 PM

it took me 2 days to get approved, this was just last week, they are quick if you make it easy for them to verify your scores, i sent them links to my local clubs results page as well as the format they asked for, like i said, two days total

Ben 04-07-2008 02:21 PM


Originally Posted by cjernigan (Post 239444)
I just applied for a Mazda Motorsports membership. Hopefully they process it in the next day or two so I can get this stuff by friday. If not I'll make due or i'll order from Rosenthal.

Anything you'd order from Rosenthal, get with me about. I should be cheaper. Though Comp will be less.

PaKMaN 04-08-2008 12:54 AM

Glad you got rid of that EWG ;)

mike_671 04-08-2008 01:08 AM


Originally Posted by levnubhin (Post 239349)

FWIW, I used ebay TB/WP kit over a year ago with no problems.
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/94-05...spagenameZWDVW

TRU DAT!!

I did the same thing and no problems(except i have a 1.6).And the dealership wanted over $140 for the WP and TB :bowrofl:.

cjernigan 04-08-2008 01:11 AM


Originally Posted by Ben (Post 239459)
Anything you'd order from Rosenthal, get with me about. I should be cheaper. Though Comp will be less.

I'll keep that in mind, thanks greatly for your help. Hopefully Comp can push me through processing and I can my order in quickly. I have plenty to do in the meantime though.


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