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Old Jul 16, 2016 | 07:23 PM
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nnnnnnnnnoooooiiiiiicccceee!
Old Jul 17, 2016 | 10:09 AM
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Originally Posted by MiataMan00
nnnnnnnnnoooooiiiiiicccceee!
Thanks man, really enjoying messing around with it so far.

SO the elephant in the room thus-far has been the accident on the rear quarter panel, but I finally finished it and feel like I did a good job. Here's it with the paint stripped after a bunch of welding, banging and pulling....

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And here it is now...

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The best shot of all after some detailing...

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And yes that is a roll-bar and Hard-top, I'm a bit behind on the updates. More on that later.

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Old Jul 17, 2016 | 08:59 PM
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Dayyum son. Looks like it was never damged.
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Wish you'd showed a few in between shots!
Old Jul 21, 2016 | 12:52 PM
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Originally Posted by MiataMan00
Dayyum son. Looks like it was never damged.
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Wish you'd showed a few in between shots!
Thanks guys. Yeah it turned out great. In other news I'm going to grab a MS3 from acedeuce802 here in the next few weeks. I'll be learning to tune the basemap and then for my RX7 injectors. Looking forward to learning and HOPEFULLY I can pick up a bit of power here and there while I'm still N/A.
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Even if you don't gain any power from the MS3, the car will run so much smoother. I was really surpsied how much more refined my 1.6 felt.
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Even if you don't gain any power from the MS3, the car will run so much smoother. I was really surpsied how much more refined my 1.6 felt.
Well that's damn good news. I figured there would be improvement over a 20 year old computer regardless. How much extra tuning did you have to do over the base map to get it running correctly?

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Old Jul 21, 2016 | 05:19 PM
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Considering I am a noob at tuning still, no idea. Autotuning the VE table and then a bit of smoothing did a lot, I also buily a new timing table based on some reading here that seems to work. Fiddling with the acceleration enrichment was needed as well.

I am still getting start and idle sorted. It does both, neither as well as stock though. I am somewhat jellous of my friend's FM Link ecu. While it certainly isn't as refined in what it can do, the base map is amazing for start up and idle. Almost like stock right out of the box....
Old Jul 27, 2016 | 11:07 AM
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Originally Posted by x_25
Considering I am a noob at tuning still, no idea. Autotuning the VE table and then a bit of smoothing did a lot, I also buily a new timing table based on some reading here that seems to work. Fiddling with the acceleration enrichment was needed as well.

I am still getting start and idle sorted. It does both, neither as well as stock though. I am somewhat jellous of my friend's FM Link ecu. While it certainly isn't as refined in what it can do, the base map is amazing for start up and idle. Almost like stock right out of the box....
Yeah but the FM is also expensive AF

I'm looking forward to tuning with it and learning. I hope to get some gains here and there while N/A over the stocker. Also for those that care, I am sending my turbo to get rebuilt by JDS Performance Turbos. While there I am getting their Billet Compressor wheel and turbine wheel combination for a good price. I will certainly be making a review of it when I get the car boosted.
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The Link is what FM used before the hydra. My friend's is from 2004 and cost $150. Not nearly as good as the MS3x, though probably better/on par with the MS1 (without the need for all the mods). The link gives you less rope to hang yourself with though (still enough to do it).

I just hung myself with the MS3x last night. Changed the fuel injectors and though I had everything set up right. Now the car won't idle. More tinkering is needed (and a new battery...).

Btw, the MS3x won't run spark or the injectors if the voltage drops below 8.5v or so when cranking...
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Someone save me from this existential crisis...

I've found a local M45 Non-intercooled Supercharger kit for $800 shipped with everything needed. I will have MS3 in less than a week and I have RX7 injectors. Would it be a wise move to pick this up and run it at ~130-140whp until I compile a quality list of parts and start my turbo build? My thoughts are that I will not lsoe money by selling the kit when I'm done, and it will allow me to continue tracking and AutoXing the car until I put together a decent turbo build with a quality manifold, exhaust, intercooler, piping, coolant reroute, radiator etc.
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You can have 130 whp with just ms3 and some bolt ons..
Edit: oh a 1.6? Never mind then
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Install the supercharger. Then install an intercooler setup. This way when you switch to the turbo you already have IC done.
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Originally Posted by yossi126
You can have 130 whp with just ms3 and some bolt ons..
Edit: oh a 1.6? Never mind then
Yeah I'm still on the poor people's motor My thought is that if I get get 130-150whp out of the M45, learn how to tune while I get parts built up it could be the way to go.

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Install the supercharger. Then install an intercooler setup. This way when you switch to the turbo you already have IC done.
Thanks man! Yeah I think I'm gonna do it. I just talked to the guy and he seems like a real straight shooter. I'll tune it and learn to tune on a light low power setup (on the beautiful injectors I bought from you a while back (Thank you btw)) while getting together quality turbo **** and supporting mods like a 1.8 rear end, cast iron manifolds, a good intercooler etc.

I'll tell you guys how it goes.
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This is very similar to my plan. If done right, all the same mods for the super should transfer right to the turbo. Only thing will be you will want to look into running dual throttle bodies.
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Sneak peek before fender rolling:

Konig Wide-Opens 15x8 ET25 Bronze w/ RE-71R's 205/50/15

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Anyone know how to color match the center caps easily? That's the only thing that I'm luke-warm about. That and that I can't afford TE-37's in a 15x8 Rota Concave style.

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Originally Posted by x_25
This is very similar to my plan. If done right, all the same mods for the super should transfer right to the turbo. Only thing will be you will want to look into running dual throttle bodies.
Damn, Our plans keep being really similar it seems like. Buyer should ship it out today. Pretty excited!
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Originally Posted by Goingnowherefast
Damn, Our plans keep being really similar it seems like. Buyer should ship it out today. Pretty excited!
That means I need to get off my butt and get mine installed! Need to take the M45 appart and give it a good going over first though. Need to make sure none of the bearings or seals are bad. Hoping to get it in with stock size pullies and no intercooler this fall so I can makensure everything is working right.
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Mhmmm
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Update on initial plans

MIATAATATATA
Phase 1: Maintenance (Oil, coolant, brake fluid, air filter): Done!
Phase 2: Safety (Roll-bar, Brakes, Lines): Done!
Phase 3: Track-ready (Tires, suspension, alignment): Done! (Needs alignment still)
Phase 4: Driver prep (Get more track time and adjust setup as needed): Too shitty outside to get tracktime
Phase 5: Getting there (MS3X, Injectors, Get it running): The car is running successfuly on MS3X
Phase 6: Throw the damn turbo on (Throw the damn turbo on): Not done


Parts Ordered:
-Supplies for AC Delete
-R-Package Lip
-Small black ducktail spoiler
-Separate trunk and Lexan Spoiler (I will swap out the trunks for track/street)
-Jackson Racing Header



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