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Old 12-23-2007, 11:01 PM   #21
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How much boost are you pushing to get 219 on 91 oct.? I like those rims.
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Old 12-23-2007, 11:04 PM   #22
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Things the PNP will do that the EMU will not do:
-Delete the AFM
In fairness, the EMU will let you delete the AFM.
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Old 12-23-2007, 11:36 PM   #23
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So does the MS control the boost, or do you have to have a boost controller and it controls it?
I also have 550cc injectors I would like to use. I wounder how much water injection would help a car in the summer 100 degree heat of Dallas
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Old 12-23-2007, 11:39 PM   #24
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Yes.

Things the PNP will do that the EMU will not do:
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-No-Lift Shifting
-Launch Control
To my knowledge, this is true
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-Boost Control
-Water Injection control
-Idle huge injectors properly
-Delete the AFM
This is not true. EMU can run open loop EBC (most people running MS run open loop EBC, though MS does have a closed loop feature)
EMU can run WI as extra injectors
EMU can idle 550s properly. I've done it myself. It has on board injector drivers (not airflow trickery) and can run sequential. It probably could idle big injectors better than a MS can.
EMU can delete the AFM. I've done this too, using Joe Perez's airflow map that he graciously shares.
I also thought of a way to incorporate knock sensing with active retard on the EMU, but to date I don't think anyone has tried it yet.

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I'm sure there's more, that's all I can think of off the top of my head. The MS is so much better than an EMU it's not even funny
MS is better. And, in fairness, will also be harder to tune. But it also has better support than EMU.
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Old 12-23-2007, 11:43 PM   #25
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That would be awsome Trey, I emailed you my #. I might can even talk my girl into cooking you some homade Fettechini chicken Alfredo. It puts Olive garden to shame.
Her enchiladas are just as mean. Or my specialty fast food. Lol
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Old 12-23-2007, 11:48 PM   #26
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A. What is the differance between Brianeacks pnp vs Ms pnp?


not much, but a enough to make a bit of difference. DIY autontune are who i actually buy all the components from, they put together a nice package deal to make building MSs easy. They took it one step f
urther and made a PNP package w/ support and warranty. They built a few custom circuits to allow the a/c to work with it. You can still use the a/c with a built MS, you just have to keep the stock ecu. not a big deal. I use the v3.0 board, the PNP is based off the 3.57 board, both use the same software and hardware. It really comes down to how much $$$ you want to invest and if you need their support and warrenty and whatnot.

B. And what are the pro's and cons of EMU vs MS vs Braineacks pnp

there's a reason a I went with the MS. If the MSPNP was available when I started looking for a better solution I might have gone with their unit, however I like DIY stuff.

C. Will one make more power or better efficency, if so how much.

yes, the ability to tune both spark and fuel maps is very benefitical.

D. greddy seems to start out cheaper and always nickle and dime you to death. This kit has software universal wiring harness. Is that all I need.

the EMU will ultimately cost more than my setup.

E. Would it be better to buy a e manage an just use the auto tune?

MS has autotune features too

F. I seen MS has a knocksence feature. and boost control, Does EMU have that?

i dont believe so


You sound like a candiate for the MSPNP, you wont have to do a damn thing but replace the ECU with the new unit and enjoy. other than tuning and running a vacuum line, that's really all that's involved. MY unit will give a you a few extra steps (which are just as easy) if you're willing do it to save the $$$.
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lol.... brain's a god... BUY HIS KIT
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How much total is your kit?
How do you set up water injection. and knock sense. What extra is needed. Thanks
I haven't read up on those yet. They might have to come later though.
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we'll wait for brain's response lol..... you might want to check out his thread he made if you want the pricing for everything
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How much total is your kit?
How do you set up water injection. and knock sense. What extra is needed. Thanks
I haven't read up on those yet. They might have to come later though.
just activate an output. Its all pretty straight forward.
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Um, they are trying to rip you off. Get a megasquirt (you can get all the stuff for about $320) and you are set. If you have to buy from them, then get the EMU, which is a deicent system.

I have never herd of a jet chip...

Where can I get a full MS System including harnesses for that price?
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