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ronniebiggs 07-10-2011 08:45 AM

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Originally Posted by neogenesis2004 (Post 747294)
I'm pretty sure the first thing you need to do is perform an animal sacrifice on top of the valve cover. Something small will suffice, like a baby rabbit.

LOL:laugh:

Its a T28 Garrett of a Nissan 200sx. I have the tune and will try and get it posted up now.

ronniebiggs 07-10-2011 08:45 AM

Not sure if this is the tune or will work. I think it is! Let me know what you think and if it will open etc.

richyvrlimited 07-10-2011 09:16 AM


Originally Posted by ronniebiggs (Post 747299)
Not sure if this is the tune or will work. I think it is! Let me know what you think and if it will open etc.

You've not attached anything....

ronniebiggs 07-10-2011 09:20 AM

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It shows an attachment for me. Does this thread have it attached?
http://i53.tinypic.com/2ldajyt.jpg

jtothawhat 07-10-2011 10:54 AM

I made 450+ BHP at 18 psi, lulz you're doing it wrong bro.

Braineack 07-10-2011 11:17 AM


Originally Posted by falcon (Post 747210)
350bhp = approx 295whp. To do that on a 1.6l, you need something like a gt2871r and run 18-20psi.


350bhp = ~325rwhp

richyvrlimited 07-10-2011 11:54 AM


Originally Posted by ronniebiggs (Post 747303)
It shows an attachment for me. Does this thread have it attached?
http://i53.tinypic.com/2ldajyt.jpg

got it now

and I'm not surprised you have such low power at that boost level.

9 degrees of advance FFS!

pdexta 07-10-2011 11:56 AM

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I'm certainly not familiar with your setup, but your timing map could definitely use some work.

https://www.miataturbo.net/attachmen...1&d=1310313155

Take a look at: https://www.miataturbo.net/attachmen...1&d=1310313155, quite a few people post their timing maps. You can look for a similar setup and get an idea where your map is conservative. Also have to take fuel into consideration, not sure how UK fuel compares to US fuel.

ronniebiggs 07-10-2011 01:20 PM

Fuel is 95 Ron to 98ron for super unleaded. I thought there would be scope to adjust. I'm slightly concerned that changing my settings to someone elses may imPact the reliability of my car. I know mine is running rich and I knew straight away that the guy didn't get anywhere near what it should be out if the car.

I will copy a setup of someone similar and see if there is any noticeable difference. I suppose it goes back to the original question on reliability on standard internals and making sure I don't over do the standard internals

eafy 07-10-2011 01:51 PM

Are you registered on Mx5Nutz.com RonnieBiggs?

Recently we were talking about tuners in different parts of the country, I think you should try and find someone that knows what they are doing.

There isnt a huge amount of specialist around darlington (maybe some in Newcastle)

There are some if you venture down towards South Yorkshire.


Originally Posted by pdexta (Post 747328)
not sure how UK fuel compares to US fuel.

Well its about $1 per litre more expensive ;)

ronniebiggs 07-10-2011 02:37 PM

Yes I'm on nutz. I put a post on there ages ago about ms tuners in the north east. I would drive to south Yorkshire if it meant getting a good job done and going an extra 100 bhp.

owenwilliams 07-10-2011 02:41 PM

Re. fuel: I looked this up a while ago...

Our UK RON is roughly equivalent to US (MON?) fuel + 4.
So - our standard is 95, equivalent to US 91.
'Super unleaded' in the UK is usually 97 or 98 and is available nearly everywhere that 95 is available. So that's like your 94 in the US.
Tesco sell 99, and there are Tesco supermarkets all over the place. So that's like 95 in the US.

Super unleaded here is currently priced at 9.1 dollars per US gallon. You've got to REALLY like cars over here, ha.

18psi 07-10-2011 03:34 PM

that timing map is crap

Braineack 07-10-2011 03:41 PM

it's more like shit.

Savington 07-10-2011 04:39 PM


Originally Posted by Braineack (Post 747393)
it's more like shit.

Yeah, except not where it matters (WOT+full boost). That's about what I would expect to see on pump gas with a T28.

Are you plumbed through a stock cat or something? Are you sure the dyno doesn't read low?

Your "tuner" is a hack, BTW. Never go back there.

skir 07-10-2011 05:11 PM


Originally Posted by ronniebiggs (Post 747381)
Yes I'm on nutz. I put a post on there ages ago about ms tuners in the north east. I would drive to south Yorkshire if it meant getting a good job done and going an extra 100 bhp.

These people are meant to be very good with the MS. Bit of a hike for you as they're in the midlands. But if you want a good job might be worth the trip.

http://baileyperformance.co.uk/

Savington 07-10-2011 05:39 PM

You'll find 20bhp in the tune, not 100. There are other issues in your setup, or that dyno reads low.

ronniebiggs 07-10-2011 06:54 PM

I've gone onto cops now and at some point I'm sure I will figure out my ebc problem so that should be working. This along with trying to improve the tables will hopefully get me some decent power increases. But if I only gain 20bhp that's still only 260bhp running 17psi on a t28 turbo. No cat fitted. Any other suggestions?

Obviously first sort tables, then ebc

TURNS101 07-10-2011 06:58 PM

Go take your money back from the tuner.. Maybe punch his face too..

Savington 07-10-2011 07:11 PM

What are the turbo specs? The old T28s were just 2560Rs, weren't they? Big difference between an old T28 and a more recent aftermarket GT2860RS/2871R.

What do stock Miatas make on that dyno?


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