The worst part about Andy's turbo and its' not a huge deal is the DP flange on it. Why did Garrett go with something that's totally different than the standard stuff that's already out there? Seems like a typical T3 5-bolt Ford flange would have worked fine with the split inlet and cast downpipe elbows are available off the shelf. Or even cooler the v-band on the GT3571 woulda been nice.

A competent welder can make a downpipe but finding one used will never happen.

Frank

 

That's what I was thinking. Could you not for less than the price of the EMU get into an MS system and have far more capability. Any reason not to MS?
I was wondering why you were on the wall about EMU vs. Hydra. The hydra is so damn expensive it's ridiculous.
A v-band downpipe would definitely be nice to have, if I can I'll go that route even though those damn Vbands are so much $$.

 

I honestly love to tinker with my car, but MS isnt for me I dont think. I need more reliability out of it. Not that MS isnt reliable, but lets face it....the hydra would be a little more polished

 

Boulder das andy dont give in we can strap a 255 aux on there for a daul feed and try for 160psi fp, and anything goes. i hope it just doesnt go that is embarasing :gay:

 

You can try that and let me know how well it works

 

OK maybe later. somebody has to be the test monkey on stupid **** might as well be me

 

Well andyfloyd, there are people makig 1000hp+ with MS. I think it would do alright for a little miata. I'm not saying its better than a hydra, but it is definitely better than an EMU.

 

It may be better than an EMU, but I dont think I would have a problem making 350whp with an EMU either, and thats all I really want

 

True, but don't you think electronic boost control, water injection control and knock sensor retard would be nice? And it's still $200+ cheaper.

 

I would have thought a T3/T04E at somewhere between 15 and 18 psi would be enough for low 300s, no? The exact number would obviously depend on tuning. I have no idea really.

I dont know personally but I have heard the 48 trim stage 1 manifold goes up to 300whp and the stage 3 goes up to 350whp or so. I suspect this would have a much bigger limiting effect than the compressor size. If you want zero chance of running out of turbine you could always run a 63 trim like the honda guys.

 

stage 3 will go for WAY more than 350whp. You can make mid 400's w/ a stage 3 and a .48 turbine ( but the backpressure will kill topend ). You could use a stage 3 in a .63 turbine housing and make 550whp ( been done before on honda engines ).

 

Sure MS sounds nice, but like I said I dont want to constantly be tinkering with it which I know I would be doing. This doesnt mean that its not reliable, but I would rather spend a ton of money on a Link, or Hydra just to have a little extra reliability. I was thinking about doing the EMU because its pretty darn good for a piggyback and I could get 350whp out of it ( and like I said in the end thats all I want ). Whenever I run the 350whp map its gonna be on 110octane anyways so I wont worry about blowing things up

 

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