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Old 10-19-2009, 11:53 PM
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Alright, so I've got a dilemma on my hands. First off I've got a Greddy kit already on the car. I have 2 intercoolers handy and don't know which to use. This one my friend gave me looks like alot of others I've seen here, but I don't have piping for it. I've also got a Starion intercooler that I have all the piping (Jim B) for I just need a few couplers. My big question is, which do you think will be better overall for cooling in the hot Florida summer (not my daily) Any place I can find a "kit" more or less and save time in buying piece by piece for the bigger one? What do you guys think I should do? Here's some pics of each. Not the greatest





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me personally, i would go with the one you got in the first picture! as for the piping! DIY!
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go for the bigger one
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I think the 2nd one would be more efficient since its a tube/fin and not bar/plate. just my .02
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They look like they both might be tube and fin, weigh them. I bet the first one will fit in the OE bumber better and the inlet and outlet tubes look crazy small on the 2nd. Are the cross sections/volumes similiar?

How do you plan to mount either one? Fabricate brackets, tubes, etc. Its all in the details get all that ironed out first.
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Throw the Starion IC in the trash.
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Id feel more comfortable giving advice with dimensions on both cores but atm i would guess the longer tubed one as longer tubes tend to offer better cooling unless the taller option is vastly taller.
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It doesn't matter. the Starion IC is: 1. lame 2. poorly plumbed 3. restrictive. /thread
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I may buy that little one off you if the price is right.

If you're not doing a proper v-mount, then get the huge one on there.

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Use the starion one instead of a cheap eBay one. I'll bet anything you will see lower intake temperatures with the starion one
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Ask anyone who's ran a starion IC what their impressions were once they finally replaced it.
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^ Agreed, i used to have a dsm with a modified starion intercooler. Its an upgrade from a dsm side mount but not by alot. If it were me i would try to pick up a precision 350, they are well priced and work amazingly well. If you are on a very tight budget then use the ebay one you got.
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Thanks so much for the help guys. Looks like I better start collecting some pipes and couplers. Brain, I'll be needing a MS hopefully soon, as my funds are the main problem. In the meantime what WB 02 do you recommend and is there a site sponsor I could get it from? I have the car on jack stands and it's getting nicer out (South FL) so I hope to have the IC in soon. My friend welds so I'll be having him fab me a bracket. I'll get some measurements and inlet/outlet diameters when I get home tonight. Again thanks for the input everyone.
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So I saw something about Stripes I/C kit? Is he still selling them? I forgot I left the piping and ic's at work. I'll measure everything tomorrow.
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I prefer either the lc1 or the aem, the aem looks like **** and is the same price though so go with an lc1. whatever you do stay away form plx, i know some members have prolly had good luck with them but i have had terrible luck and have talked to others who had to send them back over and over as well. ( i know you were asking brain but i figured i would insert my 2 cents ) Brain probably has more experience with what works best but in my experience the lc1 is the most reliable and accurate WB on the market.
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Originally Posted by 2k6750 View Post
So I saw something about Stripes I/C kit? Is he still selling them? I forgot I left the piping and ic's at work. I'll measure everything tomorrow.
I actually have a stripes pipes kit sitting in my attic.

I was planning on using it when I upgraded my intercooler...but I'm going the WI route now so my current one will work just fine.

PM me if interested. I also have a big intercooler that goes with it.
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Originally Posted by Braineack View Post
Ask anyone who's ran a starion IC what their impressions were once they finally replaced it.
I don't know about flow but I have a starion now and I switch to an eBay one and was getting higher temperatures so I went back to my starion.
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Went by my friends house today and he had some aluminum piping he didnt need. Got a better pic of of the i/c and some of the piping. The silver 2" is what I had and black 2 1/4" is what he gave me. I'm pretty sure the red t/b pipe is 2" is this adequate? Anyway I think I might have all the piping I need, there's a few more 90's and 45's so all I need now is couplers/reducers. Any input on how to keep things from moving too much or on where to mount the i/c brackets? I haven't really gotten underneath the car to look yet. Oh yeah I got measurements of the i/c too. Core length is 21" Height 6 1/4" Overall length from inlet to outlet is 28" Oh and it's JDM so you know its good! Also I'm gonna take the a/c condensor and everything out tomorrow. What do I need to elimate the compressor, just a different belt or an idler?

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Originally Posted by miataspeed2005 View Post
I don't know about flow but I have a starion now and I switch to an eBay one and was getting higher temperatures so I went back to my starion.
If it was China it probably had a really low fin density.
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Originally Posted by 1slowna View Post
the aem looks like **** and is the same price though so go with an lc1
Are you on crack? there about 100 apart ....
As far as it working better I had no luck, not saying there bad in anyway, there more accurate per say, but since he's in my neck of the woods I'd suggest Aem because I know how to get that working!!
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