Megasquirts is my DIY plan retarded?
05-25-2016, 01:53 PM
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Be careful who you trust and what they say. There is a guy (Deezums) over in Topeka, KS who provided me with great information and suggestions for what to buy for my 2000 Miata turbo build. Now it seems he can't get the DIYPNP he "sold" me to work. He also has my compatible electronic parts along with a '95 engine of mine but refuses to answer the phone or respond to emails. All I want is my stuff back that is legally mine. So, as I say, read and learn, but watch out for questionable people lke Deezums.
A few months ago I bought what was supposed to be a MS3. It turns out it's a Ms2, so I plan on returning it to the guy I bought it from.
Instead, I remember the guy up near Kansas city who has a miata he wants to turbo. He won't do any research on his own, so I answer his e-mails for months and link him to all sorts of parts and ****. I even drive over three hours in a round trip to ******* PUT YOUR INTAKE MANIFOLD BACK ON. For free. I trade the megasquirt for a 1.8 longblock then. Remember, we never traded any money for that, Bill???
So **** you man. Come get your ****. You know where I live. Sorry I don't drop every single thing I'm doing to megasquirt and turbo your miata for free. All that needs done is a sequential injection board built, which I'm still waiting for drivers for, the DIYBOB board soldered up, the alternator control board needs set up, and that's it. I showed you the thing booting after I loaded the firmware, told you it needed another three or so hours of soldering. Yeah man, it's not at the top of my list of priorities. Neither is answering your e-mails, you know it has never been that way, I answer you when I get the time and expect nothing in return for it.
It's almost like I have nothing better to do than take care of useless ******* ungrateful pieces of ****. So once again, come get your megasquirt **** or e-mail me and I'll get it to you. Sorry I'm such an *******.
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05-25-2016, 02:12 PM
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Fixed it?
As I said, he was very helpful up font and did figure out why engine wouldn't fire after head gasket install, but that has no relation to the current proplem I have with him. He was to solder up a MS 2 unit and install it on my car. However, after he tried for 2 hours to update the firmware and couldn't, I left the unit along with the alternator board needed for a 2000 Miata with him to figure out.He was to call me and I would drive over to Topeka from Kansas City and he would finish the install. It's been over three weeks, 6 emails to him and several unanswered phone calls and he still has my stuff! I "sold" the engine to him for $175.00 !!! He then "sold" me the MS 2 parts/kit for $125.00. Where can you find a complete running when torn down 1.8 for $175.00 ??? The price reflected my faith in him. Now he has over $200.00 worth of electronics of mine and won't talk to me. I don't thnk he knows enough about the MS 2 box to fix whatever is wrong with it and doesn't have the money he owes me. All I want at this point is for a guy who posts a lot on this forum to be honest about things and call me or set a time we can get together. I actually like the guy but just trying to get forum members to be careful when dealing with info or people they are not sure of.
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05-25-2016, 02:37 PM
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So you count buying an old as **** (2004) book but not reading it as research? Factory calibrations are useless if you have to replace injectors, remove air metering devices and other ****. They aren't even good calibrations to start with, especially on an old piece of **** na. Why you'd buy and then not read some shitty generic book over the good very specific info here confuses me. Do you want to make things harder on yourself?
Miataturbo has been around forever. It's your fault if you read a post or book from more than a decade ago about piggybacks and take it as current, good information. The only thing to consider building, today, is a MS3x. If you don't want to build, go spend 1K on a MSlabs or diyautotune premade megasquirt.
You need to build a MS3X, for about the same cost as a DIYPNP. When you go for inspection you will unplug the ms3 and reinstall the stock ecu. Why are you making this so hard for yourself?
Miataturbo has been around forever. It's your fault if you read a post or book from more than a decade ago about piggybacks and take it as current, good information. The only thing to consider building, today, is a MS3x. If you don't want to build, go spend 1K on a MSlabs or diyautotune premade megasquirt.
You need to build a MS3X, for about the same cost as a DIYPNP. When you go for inspection you will unplug the ms3 and reinstall the stock ecu. Why are you making this so hard for yourself?
it seems everyone wants everyone to go MS because of the community here but then people get pissed with my noobness so it seems kind like maybe I should go haltech or aem or something wierd and figure it out so lots of people dont have their pride and status questioned.
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05-25-2016, 02:48 PM
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so I shouldnt read or an old book or should I?
You CAN read an outdated book, but It may not help you in this application.
and should I read old threads or not?
Yes
is there a good time frame I should read in?
No, ALLTHETHREADS. Or at least ones with very high post count to start, Except aidans
is there a thread that will tell me whats the current setup?
Latest megasquirt, FM No electronics kit, Flow Force or ID Injectors -- Or build your own through ARTech, Fab9Tuning, TSE
it seems like you post more about me searching rather than saving yourself and me time in pointing out threads you found helpful.
Search n00b
So I just build an ms3x and then not worry about there being a better solution out there that also adresses my concern of being able to remove it all when smog time comes?
Keep all your stock items, swap stock injectors back in, factory ecu and maf back in. Wire wastegate wide open, stay out of boost
it seems everyone wants everyone to go MS because of the community here but then people get pissed with my noobness so it seems kind like maybe I should go haltech or aem or something wierd and figure it out so lots of people dont have their pride and status questioned.
Those experienced get tired of answering the same questions. Anything not supported by the majority will indefinitely leave you on your own, and that may make for a bad time.
You CAN read an outdated book, but It may not help you in this application.
and should I read old threads or not?
Yes
is there a good time frame I should read in?
No, ALLTHETHREADS. Or at least ones with very high post count to start, Except aidans
is there a thread that will tell me whats the current setup?
Latest megasquirt, FM No electronics kit, Flow Force or ID Injectors -- Or build your own through ARTech, Fab9Tuning, TSE
it seems like you post more about me searching rather than saving yourself and me time in pointing out threads you found helpful.
Search n00b
So I just build an ms3x and then not worry about there being a better solution out there that also adresses my concern of being able to remove it all when smog time comes?
Keep all your stock items, swap stock injectors back in, factory ecu and maf back in. Wire wastegate wide open, stay out of boost
it seems everyone wants everyone to go MS because of the community here but then people get pissed with my noobness so it seems kind like maybe I should go haltech or aem or something wierd and figure it out so lots of people dont have their pride and status questioned.
Those experienced get tired of answering the same questions. Anything not supported by the majority will indefinitely leave you on your own, and that may make for a bad time.
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05-25-2016, 02:51 PM
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All I can gather from your post is "I can't be bothered to read and need you to tell me everything."
Last time I tried that I ended up working for free for an ungrateful dude too stupid to tell me why he thinks I'm terrible. Why should I take my time to do the same again, and why would you even ******* trust me?
The answer is you must do your own research and filter the information as necessary. If you can't do that you chance getting something less than optimal. I can't, and won't, sit here and link every ******* thread relevant to those search terms I gave you. Your track record shows you won't even read them anyway.
You come to us with "I'm gonna buy and build a ms3x using a diybob and diy boomslang for easy swappings, with ff injectors and MKturbo!" We'd all say "**** yeah!" maybe even "have you seen this instead?" Try it sometime, I promise it works.
You both are on your own. Anyone crazy enough to help Mackey now deserves all the headache they get in return.
Last time I tried that I ended up working for free for an ungrateful dude too stupid to tell me why he thinks I'm terrible. Why should I take my time to do the same again, and why would you even ******* trust me?
The answer is you must do your own research and filter the information as necessary. If you can't do that you chance getting something less than optimal. I can't, and won't, sit here and link every ******* thread relevant to those search terms I gave you. Your track record shows you won't even read them anyway.
You come to us with "I'm gonna buy and build a ms3x using a diybob and diy boomslang for easy swappings, with ff injectors and MKturbo!" We'd all say "**** yeah!" maybe even "have you seen this instead?" Try it sometime, I promise it works.
You both are on your own. Anyone crazy enough to help Mackey now deserves all the headache they get in return.
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05-25-2016, 02:55 PM
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Westfield had the best how to. I'm not sure if he still hosts it, but there is a copy on our website too.
Asking for spoonfeeding is asking for failure. I believe I posted this somewhere else recently. But ask clarifying questions. Don't ask to be told what to do.
Here is what I said the other day:
Asking for spoonfeeding is asking for failure. I believe I posted this somewhere else recently. But ask clarifying questions. Don't ask to be told what to do.
Here is what I said the other day:
Happens all the time.
Q: "what should I do for my pcv valve"
A: **** off and search.
Q: "I've found these 2 options that people have suggested (explain options) but I'm curious about why (some specific aspect) of optipn A is better than option B"
A: Detailed explanation with some help
Nobody likes answering the same question twice, ask a new question.
Q: "what should I do for my pcv valve"
A: **** off and search.
Q: "I've found these 2 options that people have suggested (explain options) but I'm curious about why (some specific aspect) of optipn A is better than option B"
A: Detailed explanation with some help
Nobody likes answering the same question twice, ask a new question.
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05-25-2016, 11:23 PM
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All I can gather from your post is "I can't be bothered to read and need you to tell me everything."
Last time I tried that I ended up working for free for an ungrateful dude too stupid to tell me why he thinks I'm terrible. Why should I take my time to do the same again, and why would you even ******* trust me?
The answer is you must do your own research and filter the information as necessary. If you can't do that you chance getting something less than optimal. I can't, and won't, sit here and link every ******* thread relevant to those search terms I gave you. Your track record shows you won't even read them anyway.
You come to us with "I'm gonna buy and build a ms3x using a diybob and diy boomslang for easy swappings, with ff injectors and MKturbo!" We'd all say "**** yeah!" maybe even "have you seen this instead?" Try it sometime, I promise it works.
You both are on your own. Anyone crazy enough to help Mackey now deserves all the headache they get in return.
Last time I tried that I ended up working for free for an ungrateful dude too stupid to tell me why he thinks I'm terrible. Why should I take my time to do the same again, and why would you even ******* trust me?
The answer is you must do your own research and filter the information as necessary. If you can't do that you chance getting something less than optimal. I can't, and won't, sit here and link every ******* thread relevant to those search terms I gave you. Your track record shows you won't even read them anyway.
You come to us with "I'm gonna buy and build a ms3x using a diybob and diy boomslang for easy swappings, with ff injectors and MKturbo!" We'd all say "**** yeah!" maybe even "have you seen this instead?" Try it sometime, I promise it works.
You both are on your own. Anyone crazy enough to help Mackey now deserves all the headache they get in return.
I am not asking you to hold my hand. I had very general questions. If you are so sick of answering questions why not update the FAQ?!!! I don't understand how everyone complains about answering questions when they are part of the problem by refusing to update a 10 year old FAQ.
My track record?
SO I can use a diybob to make the ms3x PNP? See I didnt know that...This thread would be much shorter if people were like "Build MS3X and use a BOB and then it could be removed and installed very easy." Then I could actually search for DIY BOB.
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05-26-2016, 12:14 AM
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Dear Miataturbos,
I am sorry I should have searched much more. I tend to jump on here and ask a question rather than search. I guess I thought I was being ok asking general questions. I don't mean to come across as a jerk or stupid person who doesn't think for himself or too lazy to try to figure things out. In order to show my true humility and as act of contrition I am willing to embarrass myself by posting a thread in which I asked very similar questions and received very good responses years ago. You may us this weapon as you will.
https://www.miataturbo.net/diy-turbo...-easier-82066/
I wonder if they have this kind of cape for seppuku?
What must I do to repent?
I am sorry I should have searched much more. I tend to jump on here and ask a question rather than search. I guess I thought I was being ok asking general questions. I don't mean to come across as a jerk or stupid person who doesn't think for himself or too lazy to try to figure things out. In order to show my true humility and as act of contrition I am willing to embarrass myself by posting a thread in which I asked very similar questions and received very good responses years ago. You may us this weapon as you will.
https://www.miataturbo.net/diy-turbo...-easier-82066/
I wonder if they have this kind of cape for seppuku?
What must I do to repent?
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05-26-2016, 07:00 AM
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Stop posting, start reading. Like I told you to do a week ago, when your negative count was only 4.
I finished my car a couple months ago. It's a DIY set up, and it took me 17 months to complete. It makes shitloads of power, and probably will for a long, long time. All with the same information available to you.
I finished my car a couple months ago. It's a DIY set up, and it took me 17 months to complete. It makes shitloads of power, and probably will for a long, long time. All with the same information available to you.
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05-27-2016, 05:43 AM
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Stop posting, start reading. Like I told you to do a week ago, when your negative count was only 4.
I finished my car a couple months ago. It's a DIY set up, and it took me 17 months to complete. It makes shitloads of power, and probably will for a long, long time. All with the same information available to you.
I finished my car a couple months ago. It's a DIY set up, and it took me 17 months to complete. It makes shitloads of power, and probably will for a long, long time. All with the same information available to you.
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05-27-2016, 07:21 AM
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Because turbo projects have a funny snow ball type of effect. Things happen that you could never plan for, and because I did my best to make it reliable. Check it.
https://www.miataturbo.net/diy-turbo...o-build-81806/
https://www.miataturbo.net/diy-turbo...o-build-81806/
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05-27-2016, 04:07 PM
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Because turbo projects have a funny snow ball type of effect. Things happen that you could never plan for, and because I did my best to make it reliable. Check it.
https://www.miataturbo.net/diy-turbo...o-build-81806/
https://www.miataturbo.net/diy-turbo...o-build-81806/
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06-02-2016, 11:41 AM
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A couple of weeks ago I posted some not so nice comments about Deezums on this forum topic. I'm happy to say that our differences have been resolved. Deezums knows more about Miatas than anybody I know and is honest. My apologies to him.
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