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My big turbo setup
ENGINE
Head stock Cams ΜΚ1 90-93 lightly modified COMETIC gasket ARP studs JE Pistons 1mm oversize TOTAL SEAL rings gapless 2nd PAUTER rods Threemetallic rod and main bearings Comretion ratio 9,2/1 ++ COMPONENTS Τurbo GT2876R Stainless steel exhaust manifold Downpipe and exhaust 3" full inox Custom front mount i/c with 60 mm piping FORGE blow-off valve JR filter Custom clutch kit FUEL SUPPLY 8 injector modified intake manifold with 2 fuel rails 4 extra injectors bosch 320 cc/min 4 stock injectors from 1.8 MK1 miata 230 cc/min WALBRO fuel pump HP 255 lt/hr ELECTRICS ECU stock with overclock GREDDY E-manage blue for extra injectors,stock injectors and timing tuning GREDDY Profec b-spec II boost controler Boost,EGT and a/f ratio gauges by AUTOMETER |
Do you have any pics of the modified intake manifold for the extra fuel rail? Very interested in the individual extra injector setup.
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Here are some some fotos from my engine bay, and the modified intake manifold
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That settles it, I am going to Greece the next time I am in Italy. Rides?
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What's the vacuum line off the manifold going into?
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WOW! That's some blue bling!!! I really like it. It's very clean... and really simple. We need dyno graphs!!!
I think I see that vacuum line running down to his wastegate... you can see it pretty clear in the third pic. What kind of WG is that? And you'd better get religious about heat shielding in there or you're gonna melt stuff! |
320cc + 230cc = 550cc which are common, why not just go with a lot less complication and get a set of 550's or bigger?
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Probably can't run 550cc injectors with the Emanage Blue. Buying the 8 smaller injectors is probably cheaper than buying the 550cc injectors.
Ultimately I think this is a perfect solution when running a piggy back. |
interesting setup probably a nightmare to tune. i like the idea of leaving the stock 230s alone and using the other injectors to add needed fuel
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Wow, that looks great! And your name fits after seeing the size of your turbo! :bigtu:
As for tuning, his setup, while more complicated in terms of wiring and the extra rail, should actually be easier to tune. Off boost the stock ECU controls everything with the stock injectors so nothing has changed or needs to be done, and in boost the emanage simple retards timing and adds fuel to the extra set of injectors. It actually makes the off boost tuning that you usually need for much larger injectors non-existent so no lumpy idle or off boost issues. |
could I use my dsm 450's like this with the emanage? as the secondary injectors? they are just sitting in my garage lol
how does that fuel rail attach to the additional injectors? I dont see a bracket or is it somthing else? |
I like the extra injectors, thought about doing that down the road instead of the common 550's as to avoid idle problems and low speed crap sometimes associated with that. In fact its the same thing FM used to do with the NB FM2 kits a while back and it seemed to work pretty good for them.
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Originally Posted by braineack
(Post 49593)
What's the vacuum line off the manifold going into?
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Originally Posted by Dr. Nick
(Post 49645)
320cc + 230cc = 550cc which are common, why not just go with a lot less complication and get a set of 550's or bigger?
2.Driveability 3.Because I still have the stock ECU in my miata using piggyback solution, I prefer to have the extra fuel I need on boost situations, from an extra 4inj. so my ECU has no relation to my extra needs of fuel. Sorry but I can't explain exactly what I want to say. |
Originally Posted by jayc72
(Post 49651)
Probably can't run 550cc injectors with the Emanage Blue. Buying the 8 smaller injectors is probably cheaper than buying the 550cc injectors..
The real reason is what I said in the previous post!
Originally Posted by jayc72
(Post 49651)
Ultimately I think this is a perfect solution when running a piggy back.
I think that this is the best solution when using a piggyback. |
Originally Posted by Mach929
(Post 49654)
interesting setup probably a nightmare to tune.
Actually.. it's easier to tune! |
Originally Posted by brgracer
(Post 49674)
Wow, that looks great! And your name fits after seeing the size of your turbo! :bigtu: .
Originally Posted by brgracer
(Post 49674)
As for tuning, his setup, while more complicated in terms of wiring and the extra rail, should actually be easier to tune. Off boost the stock ECU controls everything with the stock injectors so nothing has changed or needs to be done, and in boost the emanage simple retards timing and adds fuel to the extra set of injectors. It actually makes the off boost tuning that you usually need for much larger injectors non-existent so no lumpy idle or off boost issues.
We have made some little changes at off boost situation (advance timing and some changes to the additional inj.) and at boost we are using the sub inj. map and the other 2 maps for retard the timing and addit. inj. |
Nice Job, I was once going to do this, but at the time the second fuel rail scared me and I went to a standalone with 550's. Glad it works well for you.
-Michael- |
Originally Posted by VRTSid
(Post 49681)
how does that fuel rail attach to the additional injectors? I dont see a bracket or is it somthing else?
Actually u can see them making zoom to the picture. |
Update with some changes (cams,turbo manifold,external wg,radiators,transmission,shocks,gauges,etc)
My set up now, is ENGINE 1600cc Β6 DOHC 16v JE pistons custom order 79mm TOTAL SEAL rings gapless 2nd PAUTER rods COMETIC head gasket ARP bolts High quality main and rod bearings ΗΚS cams 264ο CR 9,3/1 Τurbo GT2876R TIAL external wastegate 38mm Custom long tubular manifold with 42 mm pipes Downpipe and exhaust 3" High pressure oil feed-return and water lines Full inox 60mm piping SAMCO hoses Ιntercooler tube and fin 24x72x6 cm FORGE blow off valve Intake manifold custom 8 injectors set up with custom stainless fuel rail 4 extra injectors bosch 320 cc/min 4 stock injectors 1.8 230 cc/min WALBRO HP 255 lt/hr fuel pump ADR aluminium radiator Thermostat 82ο TRD 1,5 bar radiator cap MAZDASPEED oil cap MAGNECOR kv85 plug wires DENSO platinum plugs SIMOTA cone air filter SIMOTA breather filter ECU stock with overclock for rising the rev limiter GREDDY E-manage blue + GREDDY map sensor 3.5 bar GREDDY Profec b-spec II boost controler AUTOMETER boost gauge AUTOMETER pyrometer AUTOMETER wideband kit RX7 FD3s transmission 220mm flywheel from bp engine Custom 6-pad clutch kit EIBACH springs KYB AGX BMW 325 E36 front brake calipers High performance 288mm rotors High pressure brake lines ADVANTI 15" lightweight wheels ΤΟΥΟ R888 205/50/15 tires MAZDASPEED motor mounts |
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