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11-19-2018, 11:58 AM
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5 bolt flange outlets are gross and annoying.
V band is cool. Sounds fine. Sounds like more money to put into an outdated turbo that doesn't do anything better than the current hotness which again, i repeat, will not cost much more. And will come with a more durable manifold that has actually be track tested.
I PERSONALLY have zero, literally ZERO interest in a hentai tentacle **** manifold in my car. For any reason. Sure, it might make more power somewhere. It might be more efficient somewhere. If you're making the sort of power where that matters (You're not, i'm not, nobody in this thread is), then it matters. Until then, it's nothing more than a liability.
I'm not ragging on him. Looks like he did a good job in general. I'm simply saying that the kit is going to fall into no man's land and there's not much market for it. At least not on these forums. There's no ragging, let's not perpetuate early 20s millenial-isms, especially when you're the one that threw shade at Lars right off the bat.
V band is cool. Sounds fine. Sounds like more money to put into an outdated turbo that doesn't do anything better than the current hotness which again, i repeat, will not cost much more. And will come with a more durable manifold that has actually be track tested.
I PERSONALLY have zero, literally ZERO interest in a hentai tentacle **** manifold in my car. For any reason. Sure, it might make more power somewhere. It might be more efficient somewhere. If you're making the sort of power where that matters (You're not, i'm not, nobody in this thread is), then it matters. Until then, it's nothing more than a liability.
I'm not ragging on him. Looks like he did a good job in general. I'm simply saying that the kit is going to fall into no man's land and there's not much market for it. At least not on these forums. There's no ragging, let's not perpetuate early 20s millenial-isms, especially when you're the one that threw shade at Lars right off the bat.
And I agree with what you are saying its basically pointless to use this kind of manifold on a GT2560R, now if you go with a GTX 28 style turbo then it gets much more interesting.
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11-19-2018, 12:21 PM
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Because T25 downpipes are gross.
If i want a T2, then i'm getting a Trackspeed manifold. If i don't want a cast manifold, i'm getting a log, because it'll hold together much better.
Unless this setup ALSO fits an EFR (it doesn't), it doesn't really bring any advantages to the market compared to what we already have available to us.
If i want a T2, then i'm getting a Trackspeed manifold. If i don't want a cast manifold, i'm getting a log, because it'll hold together much better.
Unless this setup ALSO fits an EFR (it doesn't), it doesn't really bring any advantages to the market compared to what we already have available to us.
Miata 1.6 T2 Divided Downpipe by HellaFab Fabrication, on Flickr
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11-19-2018, 12:24 PM
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You are likely going to get roasted for this but I will give you where I would go if i had any welding ability.
MKTurbo and Kraken are the cheapest reliable options out there dependent on global location.
Once you get passed these you get the big boy toys from TSE with EFRs and such. You do not have the required track thrashed endurance testing they have completed to be viable up there.
Which leaves you with basically nothing.
Do not be disheartened though.
Absurdflow did manifolds that were exquisite. They also catered for everyone right from the off. Do you have ABS, PS and AC but want to fit that 2871? Its fine.
This is where fabrication gets its legs back. Squeezing kit into a space with all the annoyances still present.
These sorts of questions are very well documented here so I would suggest you look up TurboTim's creations as well as anything the Savington has touched. Emilio is not to be missed either. Its the better part of 150k worth of posts there i reckon but its all about breaking ideas like yours and making them better. Your design is not what most have for reasons contained in those posts.
MKTurbo and Kraken are the cheapest reliable options out there dependent on global location.
Once you get passed these you get the big boy toys from TSE with EFRs and such. You do not have the required track thrashed endurance testing they have completed to be viable up there.
Which leaves you with basically nothing.
Do not be disheartened though.
Absurdflow did manifolds that were exquisite. They also catered for everyone right from the off. Do you have ABS, PS and AC but want to fit that 2871? Its fine.
This is where fabrication gets its legs back. Squeezing kit into a space with all the annoyances still present.
- A well packaged low mount compatible with ABS, PS and AC is suitable for literally everyone (whether they have those things is irrelevant if you have worked around them) so more likely to sell.
- 2.75" and 3" turbo to cat V-band exhaust. 2.5" is too small for a 1.6 let alone a 1.8 so don't bother.
- IC end tanks for some sizes which have the turbo outlet size for one and the TB inlet for the other.
These sorts of questions are very well documented here so I would suggest you look up TurboTim's creations as well as anything the Savington has touched. Emilio is not to be missed either. Its the better part of 150k worth of posts there i reckon but its all about breaking ideas like yours and making them better. Your design is not what most have for reasons contained in those posts.
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11-19-2018, 12:31 PM
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I see a few questionmarks but the questions are questionable.
efr's are cool. you wouldn't want 2.5" exhaust unless you have a specific reason.
I would redesign the manifold so you don't need to cheat any bends next time, and maybe reduce the amount of 90's you need when you can use a few shorter angle bends to get to the area you want.
efr's are cool. you wouldn't want 2.5" exhaust unless you have a specific reason.
I would redesign the manifold so you don't need to cheat any bends next time, and maybe reduce the amount of 90's you need when you can use a few shorter angle bends to get to the area you want.
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11-19-2018, 02:21 PM
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Preferably pre throttle body... https://www.miataturbo.net/diy-turbo...eed-ebc-47532/
Uhhhhh... Isn't there a concern for possible blow by under high load? Especially in a boosted motor? Doesn't Oil + Hot Manifold = Fire?
Uhhhhh... Isn't there a concern for possible blow by under high load? Especially in a boosted motor? Doesn't Oil + Hot Manifold = Fire?
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11-19-2018, 03:15 PM
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2. You will have blow by issues and a beautiful bonfire if you ever torch a hole in a piston.
I removed the nipple and tapped the hole for NPT. I then added a NPT to hose barb elbow and ran the hose to a convenient location with a filter.
You want your wastegate actuator connected post intercooler but pre throttle body.
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11-19-2018, 06:58 PM
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1. It is a problem as you're letting dust and dirt in to your engine.
2. You will have blow by issues and a beautiful bonfire if you ever torch a hole in a piston.
I removed the nipple and tapped the hole for NPT. I then added a NPT to hose barb elbow and ran the hose to a convenient location with a filter.
You want your wastegate actuator connected post intercooler but pre throttle body.
2. You will have blow by issues and a beautiful bonfire if you ever torch a hole in a piston.
I removed the nipple and tapped the hole for NPT. I then added a NPT to hose barb elbow and ran the hose to a convenient location with a filter.
You want your wastegate actuator connected post intercooler but pre throttle body.
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11-19-2018, 07:14 PM
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Because T25 downpipes are gross.
If i want a T2, then i'm getting a Trackspeed manifold. If i don't want a cast manifold, i'm getting a log, because it'll hold together much better.
Unless this setup ALSO fits an EFR (it doesn't), it doesn't really bring any advantages to the market compared to what we already have available to us.
If i want a T2, then i'm getting a Trackspeed manifold. If i don't want a cast manifold, i'm getting a log, because it'll hold together much better.
Unless this setup ALSO fits an EFR (it doesn't), it doesn't really bring any advantages to the market compared to what we already have available to us.
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11-19-2018, 07:22 PM
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just because they aren't as simple, doesn't mean they cant be well done.
Miata 1.6 T2 Divided Downpipe by HellaFab Fabrication, on Flickr
Miata 1.6 T2 Divided Downpipe by HellaFab Fabrication, on Flickr
Because T25 downpipes are gross.
If i want a T2, then i'm getting a Trackspeed manifold. If i don't want a cast manifold, i'm getting a log, because it'll hold together much better.
Unless this setup ALSO fits an EFR (it doesn't), it doesn't really bring any advantages to the market compared to what we already have available to us.
If i want a T2, then i'm getting a Trackspeed manifold. If i don't want a cast manifold, i'm getting a log, because it'll hold together much better.
Unless this setup ALSO fits an EFR (it doesn't), it doesn't really bring any advantages to the market compared to what we already have available to us.
I see a few questionmarks but the questions are questionable.
efr's are cool. you wouldn't want 2.5" exhaust unless you have a specific reason.
I would redesign the manifold so you don't need to cheat any bends next time, and maybe reduce the amount of 90's you need when you can use a few shorter angle bends to get to the area you want.
efr's are cool. you wouldn't want 2.5" exhaust unless you have a specific reason.
I would redesign the manifold so you don't need to cheat any bends next time, and maybe reduce the amount of 90's you need when you can use a few shorter angle bends to get to the area you want.
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11-19-2018, 07:35 PM
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