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Driftmissile 03-04-2013 10:20 PM

My first turbo car '90 Miata finished today :)
 
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My introduction post to the forum... I'm Ryan from Salem Oregon. Got my 90 Miata with 195,000 miles on the stock 1.6 as far as I know in October of last year. I ordered most of the parts back in December, ebay dp and manifold, mitsu t25 turbo, ebay charge pipes, 4lb wastegate actuator, ebay intercooler, etc. It's my daily at the moment. I kinda regret not going with megasquirt and taking the rrfpr and retarded timing route. Hopefully she lasts at least a few months. I have a crx that I could switch insurance to so no worries, this is my drift car. Got everything finished today finally and boost is a lot of fun. The sounds are great and she's a bit faster than stock.. plus the standstill burnouts are great ;) I don't have any pics of the engine bay yet but here are some pictures of the car at Pat's Acres in Canby Oregon.https://www.miataturbo.net/attachmen...ine=1362453603
https://www.miataturbo.net/attachmen...ine=1362453603https://www.miataturbo.net/attachmen...ine=1362453603

thirdgen 03-04-2013 10:40 PM

Uh oh...
I can see this is gonna go over well already.

albumleaf 03-04-2013 11:02 PM

Another day, another bad decision.

PeteD 03-04-2013 11:15 PM

Would read again.

turbofan 03-04-2013 11:18 PM

oooo, a DRIFT car.


DORIFTOOOOOOOOOO!!!

How much camber do you have on your rear wheels?

thirdgen 03-05-2013 12:05 AM

Camber?? Is that when you stretch a 195 tire on a 10" wide rim?

Driftmissile 03-05-2013 01:18 AM

You guys are all ass holes, I'm going back to roadsterdrift lol. But really, I'll probably buy megasquirt in the next 6 weeks. Right now I'm not any worse than all the guys running basic begi or garrett kits. 93 octane, base timing retarded 2 degrees, and an intercooler.

thirdgen 03-05-2013 07:34 AM

The 2 degrees doesn't matter...it's just the fact that it's retarded.

18psi 03-05-2013 10:57 AM

You're better off staying on roadsterd0r1fto or whatever it is.

You see, here on MT we hold people to a certain standard of non-retardation. You are well below said standard, so this place is not for you.

Good day sir.

Braineack 03-05-2013 11:14 AM

im glad i cant see hte pictures.

the content/quality control police are on the lookout.

Ryan_G 03-05-2013 11:18 AM


Originally Posted by Braineack (Post 985868)
im glad i cant see hte pictures.

the content/quality control police are on the lookout.

I wish I could because I bet I would find them rather entertaining.

concealer404 03-05-2013 11:22 AM


Originally Posted by Driftmissile (Post 985717)
My introduction post to the forum... I'm Ryan from Salem Oregon. Got my 90 Miata with 195,000 miles on the stock 1.6 as far as I know in October of last year. I ordered most of the parts back in December, ebay dp and manifold, mitsu t25 turbo, ebay charge pipes, 4lb wastegate actuator, ebay intercooler, etc. It's my daily at the moment. I kinda regret not going with megasquirt and taking the rrfpr and retarded timing route. Hopefully she lasts at least a few months. I have a crx that I could switch insurance to so no worries, this is my drift car. Got everything finished today finally and boost is a lot of fun. The sounds are great and she's a bit faster than stock.. plus the standstill burnouts are great ;) I don't have any pics of the engine bay yet but here are some pictures of the car at Pat's Acres in Canby Oregon.https://www.miataturbo.net/attachmen...ine=1362453603
https://www.miataturbo.net/attachmen...ine=1362453603https://www.miataturbo.net/attachmen...ine=1362453603


Play stupid games, win stupid prizes.

Enginerd 03-05-2013 11:37 AM


Originally Posted by Driftmissile (Post 985776)
Right now I'm not any worse than all the guys running basic begi or garrett kits. 93 octane, base timing retarded 2 degrees, and an intercooler.

I challenge you to tell Corky, in person, that your Ebay parts are just as good as his products.

18psi 03-05-2013 11:48 AM

Corky would slap him.

AlexL 03-05-2013 12:39 PM

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Driftmissile 03-05-2013 12:57 PM

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I'm not saying it's a high quality manifold and downpipe but I'm running better engine management than a greddy kit. I never said the shitty manifold wasn't going to crack. I know that will happen eventually. Anyone have anything nice to say or at least some constructive criticism?

concealer404 03-05-2013 01:09 PM


Originally Posted by Driftmissile (Post 985915)
I'm not saying it's a high quality manifold and downpipe but I'm running better engine management than a greddy kit. I never said the shitty manifold wasn't going to crack. I know that will happen eventually. Anyone have anything nice to say or at least some constructive criticism?


You're not running any sort of engine management at all. I fail to see how that's better than a Greddy kit.



I do have something nice to say, though.


I like your radiator. It's very..... stock.

AlexL 03-05-2013 01:10 PM

Are you drifting on a stock 1.6 diff?

Get some proper fuel/spark mgmt and supporting mods and you'll be fine. You're only a little bit of $ away from a proper setup.

18psi 03-05-2013 01:12 PM


Originally Posted by AlexL (Post 985922)
Are you drifting on a stock 1.6 diff?

Get some proper fuel/spark mgmt and supporting mods and you'll be fine. You're only a little bit of $ away from a proper setup.

oh yeah, totally.

JUST REPLACE 90% OF THIS HORRID PIECE OF DIARRHEA AND YOU'RE THERE BRO.

:facepalm:

Driftmissile 03-05-2013 01:12 PM

A greddy kit comes without an intercooler. As I said before... 4psi with 93 octane, 1.8 injectors, rrfpr, an intercooler, and retarded timing shouldn't cause any problems on a B6.

concealer404 03-05-2013 01:14 PM


Originally Posted by Driftmissile (Post 985924)
A greddy kit comes without an intercooler. As I said before... 4psi with 93 octane, 1.8 injectors, rrfpr, an intercooler, and retarded timing shouldn't cause any problems on a B6.


Intercooler =! engine management.


You don't have anything more than a Greddy kit.


Why even bother boosting if it's only 4psi? That's like jacking off without the intention to cum.

Lee04vr 03-05-2013 01:15 PM

No, I'm willing to bet that nobody here has anything nice to say. If you had read anything on this forum you would know that "DRIFT" cars are not popular here and you might have learned the basics of building owning a turbo car. Also on a side note a 1.6l miata thats not ever making 200whp not a drift car anyway.

BTW I like the mis matched wheels.

Braineack 03-05-2013 01:18 PM


Originally Posted by Driftmissile (Post 985915)
. Anyone have anything nice to say or at least some constructive criticism?

You did a pretty good job smashing panels and sticker bombing your car with stickers from places/manufacterers youd never buy miata parts from.

Driftmissile 03-05-2013 01:41 PM

I always thought that the only reason to own a Miata was to have fun. Until I posted on here everyone I ever met who drove a Miata was actually pretty cool. I didn't build the car to be fast. I just wanted a little more than what bolt ons could give me. I don't have small dick syndrome. I like to have fun in my car, I have nothing to prove. And if I had something to prove I sure as hell wouldn't be driving a car where 95% of the owners are gay dudes, women, and middle aged men. If I wanted to go fast I'd build a 5.0 Mustang. And Lee, why the hell can't a sub 200whp car be considered a drift car? I've seen plenty of stock corolla drivers drift better than the sr s13 drivers.

concealer404 03-05-2013 01:44 PM

Well so far, statistically speaking...

Everyone on this page is either gay, a middle aged man, or a woman.

I'm a woman. Which are you?



We need 20 unique posters on a page before we can assign a straight guy without grey hair.

Lee04vr 03-05-2013 02:17 PM

Anyone taking bets as to when the motor blows up from lack knowledge.

concealer404 03-05-2013 02:19 PM


Originally Posted by Lee04vr (Post 985978)
Anyone taking bets as to when the motor blows up from lack knowledge.

He'd have to work real hard to blow it up on 4psi, unfortunately.

I bet that thing is maybe finally making the rated CHP to the wheels.

18psi 03-05-2013 02:19 PM


Originally Posted by concealer404 (Post 985949)
Well so far, statistically speaking...

Everyone on this page is either gay, a middle aged man, or a woman.

I'm a woman. Which are you?



We need 20 unique posters on a page before we can assign a straight guy without grey hair.

OP is a gay middle aged woman?

you go girl

Lee04vr 03-05-2013 02:27 PM

Honestly at 4psi I don't know if he/she whatever is making anymore power.

krissetsfire 03-05-2013 02:31 PM


Originally Posted by concealer404 (Post 985980)
He'd have to work real hard to blow it up on 4psi, unfortunately.

I bet that thing is maybe finally making the rated CHP to the wheels.

There are actually quite a few things that will kill it regardless of how much boost. He's going to be running rich and wearing his rings and cyliders pretty nicely. 4 psi and ragging on it is also good enough when combined with fuel enrichment to make #4 get all hot and bothered...

I say 10-15k miles.

concealer404 03-05-2013 02:33 PM


Originally Posted by krissetsfire (Post 985987)
There are actually quite a few things that will kill it regardless of how much boost. He's going to be running rich and wearing his rings and cyliders pretty nicely. 4 psi and ragging on it is also good enough when combined with fuel enrichment to make #4 get all hot and bothered...

I say 10-15k miles.

Before or after his short nose crank shits the bed?

krissetsfire 03-05-2013 02:37 PM


Originally Posted by Lee04vr (Post 985985)
Honestly at 4psi I don't know if he/she whatever is making anymore power.

I actually blew up my first motor this way.... I intended to though as it was smoking like a chimney @ 165,000 miles.

It was noticeably faster. Probably somewhere around~140hp. My motor got delivered though and the day before I planned on swapping I ran ALLOFIT. I made it to the gym and back but barely. haha.

Braineack 03-05-2013 02:39 PM


Originally Posted by Driftmissile (Post 985945)
I always thought that the only reason to own a Miata was to have fun. Until I posted on here everyone I ever met who drove a Miata was actually pretty cool. I didn't build the car to be fast. I just wanted a little more than what bolt ons could give me. I don't have small dick syndrome. I like to have fun in my car, I have nothing to prove. And if I had something to prove I sure as hell wouldn't be driving a car where 95% of the owners are gay dudes, women, and middle aged men. If I wanted to go fast I'd build a 5.0 Mustang. And Lee, why the hell can't a sub 200whp car be considered a drift car? I've seen plenty of stock corolla drivers drift better than the sr s13 drivers.


the purpose of owning a miata is to join this site and to shit on every other moron out there. especially ones with daddy issues who are into figure skating and wearing high heels.


i like to have fun too, it doesnt involve running into guadrails and pretending i have friends to impress.

18psi 03-05-2013 02:41 PM

:bowrofl: oh my you're feisty today

krissetsfire 03-05-2013 03:07 PM

:rofl: Sometimes I wonder why I bother posting on threads like this because the op will be off banging his dad anyway and forget all about mt very shortly. But then I realize that I also bought a miata so I could come on here and shit on morons.

Brain is relentless though. Even after someone admits they were bat shit crazy and wrong he still continues to post empirical evidence of wrongness. ass.

Braineack 03-05-2013 03:13 PM

I think the biggest difference is I dont pretend to have any friends, i know i dont.

Fireindc 03-05-2013 03:16 PM

Greddy kit is capable... only when you ditch 80% of the kit though. Get a rollbar OP, or don't - nothing wrong with thinning the gene pool.

EO2K 03-05-2013 03:35 PM

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Driftmissile 03-05-2013 04:25 PM

Brain, I guess I didn't make it clear that this is my track car. I don't drift on the street, as a matter of fact on my daily drive I try to keep as much vacuum as possible. The dent in the quarter panel was there when I bought the car, it got backed into by an f250 in a costco parking lot. And I can relate to your other post "I think the biggest difference is I dont pretend to have any friends, i know i dont." All this car is for is to have fun, I know most people hate my car and don't want to talk to me. Lets me focus on just having fun.

I know I need a rollbar, was kinda stupid to put money into the turbo first. But the track I go to is a go cart track, super slow and lots of runoff space with nearly no chance of a flip.

And to everyone who has posted and will post on this thread.. I built this car as a hatemobile/idgaf car. I already have a nice car and it kinda sucks to drive cause you get all paranoid something is going to happen.

turbofan 03-05-2013 04:33 PM

You'll understand that there is a hazing ritual that goes on here. With the current cost of Megasquirt, they will reasonably call you dumb for not running proper engine management with boost. Yes it is more expensive. People here are very focused on doing things right, and doing it all the way (e.g. why run 4 psi?). Just how it goes. As long as you admit you're taking the easy way, the not-optimal way, and the way that may blow up your engine, then whatever, no big deal.

Driftmissile 03-05-2013 04:48 PM

Thank you, Ed, for being the reasonable one here. And to everyone here, I'm 20 years old, I make mininum wage, and I live on my own. If you want to see the other side of me, the one that does things "the right way" go to my crx build page. I sunk everything for almost 2 years into that car. basically rebuilt from the ground up. I won't let you guys down and you aren't going to scare me away. This is my first turbo car and I did everything myself, you can't expect it to be perfect.

thenuge26 03-05-2013 04:50 PM


Originally Posted by Driftmissile (Post 985915)
Anyone have anything nice to say or at least some constructive criticism?

You have a future in comedy, kid. This thread is hilarious.

If you want some real constructive criticism: everything about your setup is shit. The only reason it runs at all has more to do with luck than your skill. You should sell it all (or honestly just throw it out because nobody wants it) and buy a megasquirt. Start there, there will be plenty more time for failing later.

Fireindc 03-05-2013 04:54 PM

Constructive criticism: Get a rollbar, asap. You CAN roll a miata at low speeds even on a track with plenty of runoff. I know I was a dick earlier, but nobody wants to see another person crushed under a miata.

Get a megasquirt, i bet you could find a used MS1 for 200 bucks or less, get some cheap injectors, buy an ebay intercooler, properly duct this with your stock radiator for now if you cannot afford an ebay special alum one. Make 200whp. Your car will make MUCH more power, and the motor will last longer. Win win situation.

Driftmissile 03-05-2013 04:58 PM

Steve, I beg to differ. There are 3 good parts to my setup, One piece aluminum charge pipes and a well mounted intercooler, a low mileage mitsu t25 turbo, and 2.5" exhaust with a 22" glasspack. It honestly doesn't need much... Megasquirt and some bigger injectors.

thenuge26 03-05-2013 05:01 PM

And none of those matter because when (not if) your mani cracks in 1 week, it will not run. And if you are lucky it won't even suck a piece of the mani through the turbine, destroying it also.

Seriously, you want some honest advice? Take that shit off immediately. Do it right once, it's much cheaper that way.

turbofan 03-05-2013 05:08 PM

Your setup is only as good as its weakest point.

Also... There's little excuse for being 20 and still making minimum wage. Aspire. Your car projects can progress more quickly that way. Unless you're going to school, in which case I know student jobs suck.

Might I suggest you perhaps sit tight for a bit, read and learn... You're going to get flamed here with your setup no matter what, but you can still read and learn and prepare to improve your setup.

Driftmissile 03-06-2013 02:01 AM

I am actually starting a one man detailing business. For the last 2 months about once or twice a week I deep clean at least the interior of a car. And before the hate, I don't use the Miata as my market car, my CRX has fresh paint and very clean factory interior with a few small upgrades.

18psi 03-06-2013 09:12 AM

is your crx built and turbo'd? does it run 10's or demolish road courses?

if not, STOP TALKING ABOUT IT, NO ONE EVEN REMOTELY CARES. Seriously. You have no idea how little we care about rice burners.

If its built and boosted, and ACTUALLY fast, go ahead and share details and post pictures. Otherwise don't even bother.

concealer404 03-06-2013 09:42 AM


Originally Posted by Driftmissile (Post 986272)
I am actually starting a one man detailing business. For the last 2 months about once or twice a week I deep clean at least the interior of a car. And before the hate, I don't use the Miata as my market car, my CRX has fresh paint and very clean factory interior with a few small upgrades.


Oh.


You're a Honda owner.

I never would have guessed.

concealer404 03-06-2013 09:43 AM


Originally Posted by Driftmissile (Post 986272)
I am actually starting a one man detailing business. For the last 2 months about once or twice a week I deep clean at least the interior of a car.


Sounds lucrative.

Driftmissile 03-06-2013 11:53 AM

18psi, everything you say is so entertaining, I love it.

turbofan 03-06-2013 11:56 AM


Originally Posted by Driftmissile (Post 986395)
18psi, everything you say here is right on the money, I love it.

FTFY.

Seriously.

But dude if you're having fun, have fun. Just don't expect any support from the guys here unless you want to do it RIGHT. Know that your car may blow up. Have fun. Its already a beater so if it blows up so be it. Or fix it up and bring it back from the brink.

Braineack 03-06-2013 12:09 PM


Originally Posted by Driftmissile (Post 986058)
Brain, I guess I didn't make it clear that this is my track car. I don't drift on the street, as a matter of fact on my daily drive I try to keep as much vacuum as possible. The dent in the quarter panel was there when I bought the car, it got backed into by an f250 in a costco parking lot. And I can relate to your other post "I think the biggest difference is I dont pretend to have any friends, i know i dont." All this car is for is to have fun, I know most people hate my car and don't want to talk to me. Lets me focus on just having fun.

I know I need a rollbar, was kinda stupid to put money into the turbo first. But the track I go to is a go cart track, super slow and lots of runoff space with nearly no chance of a flip.

And to everyone who has posted and will post on this thread.. I built this car as a hatemobile/idgaf car. I already have a nice car and it kinda sucks to drive cause you get all paranoid something is going to happen.

you dont understand that I dont care.

keyword: drift = lifetime no care.

Driftmissile 03-06-2013 12:30 PM

I get my paycheck today and all the bills are already paid so I will probably be ordering MSpnp this week. Will MS-1 be fine? I'm having a hard time finding any reason I need to spend $750 on MS-3

Braineack 03-06-2013 12:32 PM

because msI sucks dick.

concealer404 03-06-2013 12:33 PM


Originally Posted by Driftmissile (Post 986419)
I get my paycheck today and all the bills are already paid so I will probably be ordering MSpnp this week. Will MS-1 be fine? I'm having a hard time finding any reason I need to spend $750 on MS-3

Do you like hard dick or ED dick?

Driftmissile 03-06-2013 12:41 PM

The MegaSquirt sub-forum is kind of outdated then isn't it? Everything that's pinned to the top is MS-1... I hate asking questions like this cause I'm used to figuring everything out on my own, but I'm just lost here. Can anyone point me in the right direction?

thenuge26 03-06-2013 12:42 PM


Originally Posted by Driftmissile (Post 986419)
I'm having a hard time finding any reason I need to spend $750 on MS-3

Then you haven't looked very hard. At a minimum get an MS2, you should be able to get one for not much more than an MS1.

thirdgen 03-06-2013 12:52 PM


Originally Posted by Driftmissile (Post 985945)
I've seen plenty of stock corolla drivers drift better than the sr s13 drivers.

Explain to me exactly how the hell you drift a car that's front wheel drive? A corolla?? Come on. Next you're going to tell me that your grandmother drifts her geo prism.

Driftmissile 03-06-2013 01:02 PM

Todd, I can't tell if that was sarcasm or stupidity. Up until the 90's most corolla's were rwd. And the corolla drivers I'm talking about are using the AE86 chassis.

And to everyone telling me to buy used... I have looked through the first 3 pages of the classifieds and searched ms1, ms2, megasquirt, mspnp, diypnp... and I can't find a single ecu for under 450.


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