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nigelt 12-03-2015 02:15 AM

NB2 intercooler routing suggestions (paging 18psi)
 
Hey All,

I've looked at many a intercooler photo, and it seems that routing on the 2001+ with A/C and P/S is the hardest. People seem to like 18psi's handy work, but those photos have since expired.

The intercooler I got has 2.25 inlets (despite advertising as 2.5). Is there any downside to changing diameters multiple times? The turbo outlet is 2.25, and some people go with 2 inch on the hot side, then the TB is 2.5. What if I put 2.25 as far as I could go on the hot side and then reduced to 2 inch if the fit is too tight before bumping up to 2.25 before the intercooler, then starting with 2.5 at the TB and reducing to 2.25 where I need to for fitment? Or just make my life easier with a 2 inch kit and the appropriate reducers?

Schuyler 12-03-2015 03:37 AM


Originally Posted by nigelt (Post 1288730)
Hey All,

I've looked at many a intercooler photo, and it seems that routing on the 2001+ with A/C and P/S is the hardest. People seem to like 18psi's handy work, but those photos have since expired.

The intercooler I got has 2.25 inlets (despite advertising as 2.5). Is there any downside to changing diameters multiple times? The turbo outlet is 2.25, and some people go with 2 inch on the hot side, then the TB is 2.5. What if I put 2.25 as far as I could go on the hot side and then reduced to 2 inch if the fit is too tight before bumping up to 2.25 before the intercooler, then starting with 2.5 at the TB and reducing to 2.25 where I need to for fitment? Or just make my life easier with a 2 inch kit and the appropriate reducers?

You shouldn't have any trouble doing 2.25" all the way on an NB2. Use the holes behind the headlights.

Lokiel 12-03-2015 04:59 AM

Narrower plumbing definitely makes routing easier.

What you want to avoid is downsizing in the chain from the turbine outlet to the TB, that'll throttle your airflow.

ie. If your turbine outlet is 2.25" and your intercooler barbs are 2.25", keep the hotside plumbing 2.25". For the coldside use 2.25" and a hose reducer elbow from your TB to the 2.25" coldside plumbing.

18psi 12-03-2015 09:18 AM

I fit 2.5 behind the headlight, just needed a tiny bit of massaging.

2.25 all the way on both sides is totally fine, no need to make steps or change diameter several times

nigelt 12-03-2015 10:37 AM


Originally Posted by 18psi (Post 1288769)
I fit 2.5 behind the headlight, just needed a tiny bit of massaging.

2.25 all the way on both sides is totally fine, no need to make steps or change diameter several times

Could you repost your routing photos? The left headlight has a hole that could just be enlarged, and I'm guessing you put a hole in the other side in the same place?

18psi 12-03-2015 11:58 AM

Yeah, when I'm home.
nope, the cold side is "traditional" routing. I saw no reason to hack a hole when it's so easy to route as is.

I just enlarged the dr side hole and mimicked MSM routing with larger piping

Chiburbian 12-03-2015 02:07 PM

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Chiburbian 12-03-2015 02:12 PM

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nigelt 12-03-2015 02:13 PM

Thanks! I've got the same tires, and had the same wear on the front :)

18psi - is "traditional" routing on the cold side straight down from the TB, under the sway bar, and a 180 around the rad? Or something else?

aidandj 12-03-2015 02:16 PM

You don't have to do a 180 around the rad. I just did a 90 coupler to a 45* pipe, and it drops it right under the TB.

Chiburbian 12-03-2015 02:18 PM

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Would I do either routing again? I don't know. Hot side makes more sense than cold side. Both may require a custom wastegate actuator bracket. I bought one online that did the job in the end. This one:
Garrett Actuator Wastegate Bracket Fits All GT25R GT28R GT30R GT35R GT40R GTX T3 | eBay


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stratosteve 12-03-2015 02:34 PM

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ridethecliche 04-19-2018 05:10 PM

Bumping an oldddd thread!

To anyone that fit 2.5 inch piping behind the headlights, how much material did you have to take out of the hole? Did you just whack it a few times? Grind some ish off with a dremel or was it more involved?

Thanks!

18psi 04-19-2018 05:46 PM

You can cut it. I didn't. I made small relief cuts and pounded it out to form a lip in the same general shape as oem but larger. I believe the oem hole fits 2" or whatever the MSM piping is. So enlarging it for 2.5 is only .25 more on each side

Chiburbian 04-19-2018 06:21 PM

It wasn't a big deal. Dremel plus split rubber hose to act as an edge guard.

I will be selling the pipes pictured above in a month or two (BOV included). Not sure I want to ship. I could be persuaded I guess.

stratosteve 04-19-2018 06:30 PM

Pretty sure I ran 2" on the hot side and only required minimal trimming.

ridethecliche 04-19-2018 07:08 PM


Originally Posted by 18psi (Post 1478117)
You can cut it. I didn't. I made small relief cuts and pounded it out to form a lip in the same general shape as oem but larger. I believe the oem hole fits 2" or whatever the MSM piping is. So enlarging it for 2.5 is only .25 more on each side

Ah gotcha. I guess I can give it a go! I can measure out and draw the slightly bigger shape and nick it till it fits.


Originally Posted by Chiburbian (Post 1478119)
It wasn't a big deal. Dremel plus split rubber hose to act as an edge guard.

I will be selling the pipes pictured above in a month or two (BOV included). Not sure I want to ship. I could be persuaded I guess.

Thanks. It would be nice to press the easy button, but I already have piping and I am going to be a dead man if this car isn't running well before that 1-2 month period.


Originally Posted by stratosteve (Post 1478120)
Pretty sure I ran 2" on the hot side and only required minimal trimming.

I'm shooting for 2.5" with 2" as a backup if it just doesn't work for whatever reason.

Bronson M 04-20-2018 08:19 AM

https://cimg4.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.mia...ef6f46b686.jpg
You can sneak in two 2.5" pipes if you're careful.

nigelt 04-21-2018 01:12 AM


Originally Posted by Bronson M (Post 1478189)
https://cimg4.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.mia...ef6f46b686.jpg
You can sneak in two 2.5" pipes if you're careful.

Just grease liberally and take your time with it.

18psi 04-21-2018 01:34 AM

I really like that picture above. ideal intake and fmic routing.
if I got another miata that I din't care about keeping reversible (because I wasn't about to hack up my mint low mile MSM), I'd do exactly that.


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