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danscreations 02-14-2009 07:17 PM

New Fabricated Exhaust (RSR Inspired/Turndown/56K WATCHOUT)
 
After two exhaust systems on the car over the few years I've had it the first one sounded great (magnaflow muffler) but looked horrible and the secound looked great but didn't sound as good. So in the search for the perfect exhaust I went back to the drawing board. Huge thanks to my friend Danny who did all the welding and made this possible!

2.5" Turbo Tony Downpipe (freshly installed w/new finish & band)
2.5" Custom Exhaust
- Magnaflow 2.5" Stainless Steel Straight In-Out Muffler
- 2.5" Aluminized Piping
- 2.5" Aluminized J-Bend (for homebrew mandrel bends)
- 3.5" Stainless Steel Mandrel 45 degree (was cut short to make tip)
- 2.5" Dual Eared Flange w/Gasket
- 3 Universal Heavy Duty Hangers
AEM UEGO

http://www.dp6061.com/temp/Exhaust_01.jpg
http://www.dp6061.com/temp/Exhaust_02.jpg
http://www.dp6061.com/temp/Exhaust_03.jpg
http://www.dp6061.com/temp/Exhaust_04.jpg
http://www.dp6061.com/temp/Exhaust_05.jpg

100% In List
kinggreg86 2.25" NA (CR; turndown)

50%/Soundclip List
silverslider (CR; turndown)
cny (CR; turndown)
Bonanza (CR; turndown)
Broketuner (CR; turndown)
mtdrift (CR; straight out)
wilsonjim15 (CR; turndown)
swales (CR; turndown)
slowstr8fastturns (CR; turndown)
The_Pipefather (MT; turndown)
NA6C-Guy (MT; turndown)
ZX-Tex (MT; turndown)
ChaserAero (MT; turnout if possible)
A Dingleberry Monstrosity (MT; turndown)

50% Axelback
Quinn
jdm slick

Notes
100% in will require a $125 deposit when 4 ppl are in at which point will max out at 6 ppl per building period. Exhausts will take 1-2 weeks to produce (some quicker than others being shipped but this is just an overall waiting period).

Soundclips
Rev: http://www.dp6061.com/temp/exhaust_rev.wmv
Flyby: http://www.dp6061.com/temp/exhaust_flyby.wmv

cjernigan 02-14-2009 07:24 PM

Looks good like the rest of the car.
How's things down south man?

danscreations 02-14-2009 07:26 PM


Originally Posted by cjernigan (Post 368586)
Looks good like the rest of the car.
How's things down south man?

Thanks man! Things are good; really can't complain. I miss being up there here and there but I guess from living here so long and knowing several ppl makes it home. You?

cjernigan 02-14-2009 07:46 PM

I'm doing good, long line of things to do to the car this spring. Should start next week hopefully. Not working right now, getting ready to head to Alaska for the summer like I usually do. Graduated in December so now I'm trying to decide on grad school.

The_Pipefather 02-14-2009 07:49 PM

Are you going to be mass-producing it? If you are, I want one.

greenday3437 02-14-2009 07:53 PM

My god that is a clean shop, oh and nice exhaust

NA6C-Guy 02-14-2009 07:59 PM

I would also be willing to pay for a duplicate, maybe in 3'' though. Thats one of the best looking exhausts Ive seen period, let alone on a Miata. Any sound clips?

Wanna build me one? I'll give you $500 for a cat back in 3'' stainless ;)

wayne_curr 02-14-2009 08:12 PM

I think this may be how I end up fabbing my exhaust. Sound clips please!

Also, i love your wheels even though you cant exactly see them in these pictures. Saw them in a honda-tech thread.

Rafa 02-14-2009 08:22 PM

Dan; beautiful! :bigtu:

You have a way to make parts look like works of art. ;)

danscreations 02-14-2009 09:53 PM


Originally Posted by Rafa (Post 368602)
Dan; beautiful! :bigtu:

You have a way to make parts look like works of art. ;)

Thanks Rafa!

danscreations 02-14-2009 09:53 PM

For those that are interested; Just talked to Danny and he's interested in making more. Prices would run the following with 4-6 ppl in on them.

Base Version (catback)
2.25" NA $375.00
2.50" NA/Turbo $375.00
3.00" Turbo $400.00

Extended Version (cat deleted; I will extend to the header extension/downpipe)
2.25" NA $385.00
2.50" NA/Turbo $385.00
3.00" Turbo $410.00

Addons
2.25" Flex Coupler $45.00
2.50" Flex Coupler $50.00
3.00" Flex Coupler $55.00

Shipping will be $50.00 in the 48 cont. states.

The exhaust will be hand built and test fitted for quality. Will come with all hangers (use stock locations and chassis mounting areas), flanges, gaskets, and hardware. Due to shipping purposed the exhaust will have to be 2pcs instead of one so another flange or slip fit connection will be added. Flameproof Paint will be included to spray on arrival (keep from getting chipped up in shipping).

For those who are interested PM me and I'll start a list. Don't think it will take long to get 4-6 ppl.

ZX-Tex 02-14-2009 10:27 PM

Hmmm.... I'm shopping for 3" systems right now. Would this pricing include NBs (1999) as well? How much to add a spun metallic Magnaflow cat to the midpipe, and an extra bung (rear O2 sensor)?

cardriverx 02-14-2009 10:43 PM


Originally Posted by danscreations (Post 368626)
For those that are interested; Just talked to Danny and he's interested in making more. Prices would run the following with 4-6 ppl in on them.

Base Version (catback)
2.25" NA $375.00
2.50" NA/Turbo $375.00
3.00" Turbo $400.00

Extended Version (cat deleted; I will extend to the header extension/downpipe)
2.25" NA $385.00
2.50" NA/Turbo $385.00
3.00" Turbo $410.00

Addons
2.25" Flex Coupler $45.00
2.50" Flex Coupler $50.00
3.00" Flex Coupler $55.00

Shipping will be $50.00 in the 48 cont. states.

The exhaust will be hand built and test fitted for quality. Will come with all hangers (use stock locations and chassis mounting areas), flanges, gaskets, and hardware. Due to shipping purposed the exhaust will have to be 2pcs instead of one so another flange or slip fit connection will be added. Flameproof Paint will be included to spray on arrival (keep from getting chipped up in shipping).

For those who are interested PM me and I'll start a list. Don't think it will take long to get 4-6 ppl.

Dammit, If I had the $$ I would..

bryantaylor 02-14-2009 11:08 PM

as usual with your car, looks badass man!!!

NA6C-Guy 02-14-2009 11:12 PM

Id still like to hear it before saying yes on purchasing one. $400 seems like a good deal though.

dustinb 02-14-2009 11:24 PM

Looks awesome. Great job!

chriscar 02-14-2009 11:51 PM


Originally Posted by greenday3437 (Post 368594)
My god that is a clean shop, oh and nice exhaust

Ok, here's what I was about to post.... Good LORD that's a clean shop. And nice exhaust.

So yeah, no need to now.

C

coastertrav 02-15-2009 12:26 AM

Audio clip needed...

Looks AMAZING, and I will probably be copying it this summer as I absolutely love the way the RSR looks.

Yet again man, major thumbs up on your car.

Rafa 02-15-2009 08:34 AM


Originally Posted by danscreations (Post 368626)
For those that are interested; Just talked to Danny and he's interested in making more. Prices would run the following with 4-6 ppl in on them.

Base Version (catback)
2.25" NA $375.00
2.50" NA/Turbo $375.00
3.00" Turbo $400.00

Extended Version (cat deleted; I will extend to the header extension/downpipe)
2.25" NA $385.00
2.50" NA/Turbo $385.00
3.00" Turbo $410.00

Addons
2.25" Flex Coupler $45.00
2.50" Flex Coupler $50.00
3.00" Flex Coupler $55.00

Shipping will be $50.00 in the 48 cont. states.

The exhaust will be hand built and test fitted for quality. Will come with all hangers (use stock locations and chassis mounting areas), flanges, gaskets, and hardware. Due to shipping purposed the exhaust will have to be 2pcs instead of one so another flange or slip fit connection will be added. Flameproof Paint will be included to spray on arrival (keep from getting chipped up in shipping).

For those who are interested PM me and I'll start a list. Don't think it will take long to get 4-6 ppl.


Dan; give me a couple of months to recoup from this rebuild and I'll be buying the 3" one from you. I'll contact you.

FWIW, I don't need a CAT.

johnwag 02-15-2009 10:08 AM

Dan, I really like your design! I've been contemplating replacing my FM single tip with a lightweight, straight-through design like yours. My only concern is loudness on an n/a setup. I'm staying n/a until I can justify spending the $$$ on FI, and I love the simplicity of this setup.

Alot of us have shown interest in hearing a sound clip. If you can provide one, that would be great. I realize that it would be on a turbo car, too.

Archetype 02-15-2009 10:18 AM

Glad to see you didn't waste any time with that downpipe :bigtu:

Build quality looks top notch from those pics.

Toddcod 02-15-2009 10:28 AM


Originally Posted by johnwag (Post 368727)
Dan, I really like your design! I've been contemplating replacing my FM single tip with a lightweight, straight-through design like yours. My only concern is loudness on an n/a setup. I'm staying n/a until I can justify spending the $$$ on FI, and I love the simplicity of this setup.

Alot of us have shown interest in hearing a sound clip. If you can provide one, that would be great. I realize that it would be on a turbo car, too.

If you have a glasspack for a reasonator on the 2 1/2 it isn't bad, just a little louder than I liked. It would of been perfect with the Turbo. I should of kept it.

But now I'm switching to the 3" Enthuza system.

Toddcod 02-15-2009 10:31 AM


Originally Posted by danscreations (Post 368626)
The exhaust will be hand built and test fitted for quality. Will come with all hangers (use stock locations and chassis mounting areas), flanges, gaskets, and hardware. Due to shipping purposed the exhaust will have to be 2pcs instead of one so another flange or slip fit connection will be added. Flameproof Paint will be included to spray on arrival (keep from getting chipped up in shipping).

For those who are interested PM me and I'll start a list. Don't think it will take long to get 4-6 ppl.


Man I still have to make a test pipe. Those are good prices. I noticed that in the picture you don't have a rear brace. Do you have one.
I was just woundering if it clears it. I had some issues with the brace clearance once.

Mabe he can make a brace to sell with it?

danscreations 02-15-2009 10:49 AM

Alright guys! Posted up a list of interested ppl and those 100% down on an exhaust. Weather is crappy today and the Daytona 500 is going on in town today so I'm not going anywhere. I will do something Monday if the weather permits for sound clips. I'll talk to David Wallen's of Grass Roots Motorsports about using his car for 1.8L fitment which shouldn't be any different as well as a sound clip on an NA. Only downside is we'd be using my exhaust which is 2.5" so it will be the LOUDEST of the bunch on NA's. Sorry Miata Turbo guys....know this doesn't apply to you. I'll also take video of the install on his car etc so you can see how it goes on.

Rear Brace/Tow Hook Area
I know for sure no rear braces will fit with the exhaust other than MAYBE 949 Racings but looks like that might be a fail too. We were talking about this when making the exhaust and we have a great solution but just haven't made it yet. Based off 949's inharited design we're going to do the same however instead of going UNDER the exhaust createding a "U" bend to go up and OVER the exhaust eleminating the age old issue. Emilio if you have the resources to do this and want to by all means! Sure it would work for more than just this exhaust. The passengers side rear tow hook area MAY have to be trimmed. Mine was for the last exhaust systems so it was no issue. If so it will be minimal but I don't think you will have to do anything.

Mufflers/Resignators
I can get anything magnaflow you may want however keep in mind pricing may very depending on what you want as well as build price will reflect slightly as it won't be an exact copy anymore.

robino 02-15-2009 11:22 AM

For the turbo guys, i can maybe offer another alternative (clears rear bracing)
i'll have pics up tue.

3" stainless using Borla straight through muffler.

danscreations, where in FL are you and what did you end up doing with your other wheels that are pictured in your sig?

Rafa 02-15-2009 11:50 AM


Originally Posted by robino (Post 368742)
For the turbo guys, i can maybe offer another alternative (clears rear bracing)
i'll have pics up tue.

3" stainless using Borla straight through muffler.

danscreations, where in FL are you and what did you end up doing with your other wheels that are pictured in your sig?

He said Daytona 500 is going on where he is ;)

miatamania 02-15-2009 12:17 PM

In for sound clips.

Would you be able to fab up a 2.5-3" adapter test pipe for those of use who want 3" exhaust but can only get a 2.5" downpipe?

Marc D 02-15-2009 12:31 PM

when's an NB version coming out?;)

Js_roadster 02-15-2009 02:22 PM

it looks sooo nice, but is there going to be a NB version coming out?

240_to_miata 02-15-2009 02:57 PM

that shop makes me drool

nice exhaust too

coastertrav 02-15-2009 03:06 PM

Hey Dan,

Since you are over in Daytona, just let me know if he want's to get into the NB market. I'm over in Orlando, and would gladly make the trip over there sometime in the summer.

18psi 02-15-2009 03:16 PM

looks great.

rlogan 02-16-2009 05:24 PM


3.5" Stainless Steel Mandrel 45 degree
Did you polish after the fact...or you got a piece already polished and cut it..

NA6C-Guy 02-17-2009 01:51 AM

I have another concern/question with the exhaust. I dont mind doing some minor alterations to make it fit, but how do you know this one exhaust will fit all of the slight variations from downpipe design? Alot of people make custom dp's and from what I hear the Bell down pipe is hit or miss on fitment. Id hate to get one and have to have it cut and rewelded (though not a big deal really).

Also, do you guys plan to do more runs of this exhaust after the first 6? Id like to buy one now, but I have yet to even buy my MS or turbo. Dont want to dump $500 on an exhaust just to change my mind about my turbo plans 2 or 3 months later and be stuck with it. If you do plan to do another run in a few months, I would for SURE want one then, its more of a time issue now. I dont want to jump the gun and build my turbo system backwards if you know what I mean.

danscreations 02-17-2009 08:15 AM


Originally Posted by coastertrav (Post 368861)
Hey Dan,

Since you are over in Daytona, just let me know if he want's to get into the NB market. I'm over in Orlando, and would gladly make the trip over there sometime in the summer.

Will do! I just posted up some information on CR.NET about this. Guys are asking for axel backs, etc, etc. So I first have to find out what exactly is different between them (tip location, etc, etc). I'll contact you when the time comes.



Originally Posted by rlogan (Post 369415)
Did you polish after the fact...or you got a piece already polished and cut it..

After the fact....we have a full polishing shop at CCW (main job) where the guys work on a peice by peice basis. I can do it but for what they'll charge me there no bother to have black rasin size bugers for 3 days afterwards. Hate to see what it does to your lungs. One of those jobs where you come in white and leave black.



Originally Posted by NA6C-Guy (Post 369654)
I have another concern/question with the exhaust. I dont mind doing some minor alterations to make it fit, but how do you know this one exhaust will fit all of the slight variations from downpipe design? Alot of people make custom dp's and from what I hear the Bell down pipe is hit or miss on fitment. Id hate to get one and have to have it cut and rewelded (though not a big deal really).

Also, do you guys plan to do more runs of this exhaust after the first 6? Id like to buy one now, but I have yet to even buy my MS or turbo. Dont want to dump $500 on an exhaust just to change my mind about my turbo plans 2 or 3 months later and be stuck with it. If you do plan to do another run in a few months, I would for SURE want one then, its more of a time issue now. I dont want to jump the gun and build my turbo system backwards if you know what I mean.

We'll only worry about fitting to stock OE equipment. If a new header or downpipe changes where they meet up (which they shouldn't so they work with the OE equipment) it's on you to have either shortened or extended. The guy I'm getting all the parts from is getting us magnaflow systems for each year span to copy lengths, etc. so there should be zero issues.

Please keep in mind I never ment for this to be what it is now. It could be an inital run, could be two, three, etc. I don't have an exact plan. I talked to my friends Danny who's doing all the welding and were talking about making nice jigs to produce these in so we can make them whenever down the road but I'm looking at taking baby steps right now.

danscreations 02-17-2009 08:25 AM

Soundclips added on Post #1

coastertrav 02-17-2009 09:56 AM

Doesn't sound bad...

How is the drone?

levnubhin 02-17-2009 10:34 AM

Don't need the exhaust but sure would like photography lessons.
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danscreations 02-17-2009 10:55 AM


Originally Posted by coastertrav (Post 369717)
Doesn't sound bad...

How is the drone?

Not bad, really depends on the tip length. The longer the less it seams but the shorter tip like mine doesn't quite get it exhaust out from under the car as much as others. The longer tip always bothered me though since the bumpers cut back twards the car. Hangs out a tad too much.

johnwag 02-17-2009 12:06 PM

3 Attachment(s)

Originally Posted by danscreations (Post 368734)
Rear Brace/Tow Hook Area
I know for sure no rear braces will fit with the exhaust other than MAYBE 949 Racings but looks like that might be a fail too. We were talking about this when making the exhaust and we have a great solution but just haven't made it yet. Based off 949's inharited design we're going to do the same however instead of going UNDER the exhaust createding a "U" bend to go up and OVER the exhaust eleminating the age old issue. Emilio if you have the resources to do this and want to by all means! Sure it would work for more than just this exhaust. The passengers side rear tow hook area MAY have to be trimmed. Mine was for the last exhaust systems so it was no issue. If so it will be minimal but I don't think you will have to do anything.

I can't tell if the beatrush rear ladder brace will fit with your exhaust. It looks close, but you have the 1.6 rear subframe, which doesn't have the mount holes for rear bracing.

96rdstr 02-17-2009 12:37 PM

I want, but I have stock sub braces on my 96. I would even drive over to pick it up. Dan, I thought I recognized your car! I was in Daytona back is Sept and I saw you on 92 as I was heading towards the beach you were heading West. We gave each other the nod of acknowledgment. I drive a classic red with champaign chaps. Your car is bad ass man.

mad doc 02-17-2009 01:51 PM

I guess I need to figure out my goals quickly on my car. I was planning a 1.6L turbo kit for now and building a 1.8L.... I'm just trying to determine the diameter that I want for piping, 2.5" or 3" ? Figure the eventual goal would be a 1.8L turbo kit, but I don't think I'll want to push more than 250-300whp.

I would want an exhaust to look exactly like yours, dan.

(I posted on CR as well).

levnubhin 02-17-2009 01:59 PM

Dan, I just noticed you shut down your thread over on CR. What a bunch of BS that is.
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danscreations 02-17-2009 05:00 PM


Originally Posted by levnubhin (Post 369786)
Dan, I just noticed you shut down your thread over on CR. What a bunch of BS that is.

The mods are doing what they're suppost too. Tim's cool he'll problaby let me sell them with no sponsorship but I told him I wouldn't mind as long as it's not stupid money which I doubt it will be.

danscreations 02-17-2009 05:01 PM


Originally Posted by 96rdstr (Post 369761)
I want, but I have stock sub braces on my 96. I would even drive over to pick it up. Dan, I thought I recognized your car! I was in Daytona back is Sept and I saw you on 92 as I was heading towards the beach you were heading West. We gave each other the nod of acknowledgment. I drive a classic red with champaign chaps. Your car is bad ass man.

If it was awhile back; yes I do! I was leaving work I think....thanks for the compliments.

96rdstr 02-17-2009 05:24 PM


Originally Posted by danscreations (Post 369896)
If it was awhile back; yes I do! I was leaving work I think....thanks for the compliments.

Yeah man you probably were. It was on a Friday around 4-6. My son and I were coming in to stay for the weekend.

Well, if you end up making for a 1.8L then I am in for a set up.

danscreations 02-17-2009 07:41 PM

I'm sure we will just have to get everything in line.

evodanny 02-17-2009 09:07 PM

WoW.. that is a sweet exhaust!!!!!!!! Considering I made it and will be taking over the technical side of things... Questions Welcome

thegizzman 02-18-2009 12:27 AM

That sounds really good, exactly what I was looking for. keep us posted when you plan on making some for the 1.8, ill defiantly buy one.

NA6C-Guy 02-18-2009 03:22 AM

Shit, I didnt even notice this was a 1.6 exhaust... oh well. I guess take me off the list since Im driving a 1.8 car.

sbrian2 02-18-2009 08:18 AM

Cat backs are the same on all NA's

96rdstr 02-18-2009 08:57 AM


Originally Posted by sbrian2 (Post 370231)
Cat backs are the same on all NA's

1.8L doesn't mean a thing, it was used to denote the 94-97 models with rear sub braces. Dan states that the system will NOT clear the sub-braces on later model cars.

as stated here:
Rear Brace/Tow Hook Area
I know for sure no rear braces will fit with the exhaust other than MAYBE 949 Racings but looks like that might be a fail too. We were talking about this when making the exhaust and we have a great solution but just haven't made it yet. Based off 949's inharited design we're going to do the same however instead of going UNDER the exhaust createding a "U" bend to go up and OVER the exhaust eleminating the age old issue. Emilio if you have the resources to do this and want to by all means! Sure it would work for more than just this exhaust. The passengers side rear tow hook area MAY have to be trimmed. Mine was for the last exhaust systems so it was no issue. If so it will be minimal but I don't think you will have to do anything.

mad doc 02-18-2009 10:59 AM

dan, I'm PMing you on CR...apparently I can't PM on here b/c I don't have enough posts yet :mad:

SamS 02-18-2009 11:15 AM

How important are those rear braces? Would I even notice a difference if I've got a roll bar and frame rails?

danscreations 02-18-2009 11:24 AM

Sorry to change from day to day but I just type what I'm thinking. Might not make since to some but figured it would help most of you all look at things from where I'm comming from. With that said....just emailed off for ALL the pricing i'll need to know on piping, mufflers, etc, etc. We have a ton of request over on CR.NET about the exhaust in mainly 2.25" setups. Mad doc I got your PM and hopefully if we can figure things out my plain is to build both a 2.25" system and a 3" system and then will have all three to make jiggs off of. Once done those exhaust will be sent to the buyers and we can stop pussy footing around and actually have everything to make these. I expect it to take us a week or two to have all this done and start making these.

Rear Brace
Danny and I decided we didn't want to comprimise the design for the brace. As posted earlier the 949 brace should work if not it can be flipped upside down to work.

mad doc 02-18-2009 11:46 AM

And if not, build another brace :)

danscreations 02-18-2009 01:15 PM


Originally Posted by mad doc (Post 370313)
And if not, build another brace :)

Was thinking something sexy looking....(dunno if that sounds right)...based off the 949 racing tubular bar. Some crappy photoshop sketches.

http://www.dp6061.com/temp/Exhaust_brace.jpg

evodanny 02-18-2009 01:22 PM

I vote for the second one down!!!

rlogan 02-18-2009 02:08 PM

I might be interested in just the polished muffler/turndown combo....I'll probably have to fabricate the rest of the system to fit some other modifications I've done.

blue89turbo 02-23-2009 01:41 PM

Hey Dan,

I am very interested in this setup as well.
I will send you a PM in a minute, but I would be looking at 2.5 from the cat back...

Thanks


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